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[Argetfalcon]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

JerZeyCJ2 wrote...

Huh, I've never heard of it. Then again, I don't really read fanfiction. But I'm pretty sure than anybody who has made mention of the broken pelvis joke is referencing Futurama.

Well, around here I suppose it could be either.  In any case, there are at least some people in Dragon Age fandom who treat Qunari pelvis breaking seriously. 

Sten suggests you wear armor

[TheJediSaint]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

JerZeyCJ2 wrote...

Huh, I've never heard of it. Then again, I don't really read fanfiction. But I'm pretty sure than anybody who has made mention of the broken pelvis joke is referencing Futurama.

Well, around here I suppose it could be either.  In any case, there are at least some people in Dragon Age fandom who treat Qunari pelvis breaking seriously. 

I was referencing Futurama, just to be clear.   And I don't take anything on BSN seriously.

[Versus Omnibus]

CaptainBlackGold wrote...

I have been reading this thread from the beginning, mostly just for grins but I have to say that some of the animosity towards the very concept is a little extreme.

Personally, I can take or leave romances in game - honestly I think they add something to the role playing aspect, but they are not a make or break deal for me one way or the other.

However I do admit to some interest in seeing a female kossith LI just for the real potential for some interesting drama. I am not sure whether the "Kossith" (though it seems this word is no longer the right one to use according to Mr. G.) resistance to romantic sexual love is something inherent within their biology or the product of their particular religious/cultural beliefs.

And that is what would make a "romance" fascinating to explore. I personally find overly muscular women to be unattractive - not "dissing" anyone here just stating a preference. However a woman born into a society that forbids romantic love, who meets someone from outside her culture and discovers "feelings" she never even knew she had - now that would be worth developing.

This is classic "Romeo and Juliet" territory; does a woman reared in such a drastically different culture change her views when encountering someone outside her experience? Does it become a hopeless romance - like the "almost" one with Samara in ME3? Does "love conquer all" and the two lonely souls actually find each other, despite the differences in biology and culture? Or do they sadly, wave good bye at the end, regretfully acknowledging that it just could never be?

I find those kinds of scenarios really interesting. Maybe they might create models for female "Kossith" I find totally unattractive and therefore would have no interest in romancing even if available (i.e., Aveline held no interest for any of my characters, though I loved her to pieces as a friend and ally). But if they make and include one that I would find attractive, I would like to see where such a "romance" might lead.

For example, I really liked the Sigrun character - and trust me, I do not find Dwarf's sexually attractive at all. But I could see a "doomed" romance with her as a really interesting option. She was so adorable!

So I would vote for offering such an option because I think Bioware could really do it well - not as fan service or appeasing some "fetish" but rather, just investigating whether "love can find a way." This aspect would personally be far more interesting and appealing than just another "exotic elf "love interest, or even "naughty pirate girl" (and I like both those characters).

Now this has to be the coherent post in this topic.

[JerZey CJ]

So, assuming we do get a female Kossith/Qunari LI, do you think that she should be a straight, gay, or bi LI? And what actions do you think she'd like/dislike? I'm leaning towards her being for both M and F Inquisitors, just because I don't see the Kossith/Qunari really caring about gender, just so long as you're strong, capable, honorable, and cunning. So I'd think you get +points with her for getting your way through force/violence and killing people for not being "honorable" or not keeping their end of the bargain. On the other hand, drawing out conversations to talk someone out of a fight instead of just getting it over with and killing when it isn't needed or necessary would give -points

[Versus Omnibus]

JerZeyCJ2 wrote...

So, assuming we do get a female Kossith/Qunari LI, do you think that she should be a straight, gay, or bi LI? And what actions do you think she'd like/dislike? I'm leaning towards her being for both M and F Inquisitors, just because I don't see the Kossith/Qunari really caring about gender, just so long as you're strong, capable, honorable, and cunning. So I'd think you get +points with her for getting your way through force/violence and killing people for not being "honorable" or not keeping their end of the bargain. On the other hand, drawing out conversations to talk someone out of a fight instead of just getting it over with and killing when it isn't needed or necessary would give -points

We simply don't have enough information to determine if the Qun even allows homosexual relationships. My guess would be it disapproves of it but might still allow it.

As for the LI herself, if she is part of the Qun then I would say she should be straight. If we get an LI raised outside the Qun then I'm fine with her being bisexual.

[Villiamus]

This seemed like a bad Idea, now it appears to be a Very bad Idea,

[ledod]

I am not sure a Kossith would be receptive of another's race's affection. Although, banter between Sten/Morrigan in origins may suggest the contrary of my opinion.

[dversion]

Judging just based on the title and not reading what has clearly become a lengthy topic here's my two cents. I love the Qunari because the way they think of the world is sympathetic, coherent, and ****ing scary. Their superbly written and I would love to know Qunari characters. Cracking through the layers of Sten's stoicism to get at what his true feelings are, only to find them foreign yet understandable was really interesting and enjoyable. We haven't seen any female Qunari yet and I'm sure they have a unique perspective on how women are viewed in foreign lands. Also it'd be interesting to find out what exactly a Quanari idea of romance or a bond between two people would be like. It would be different from what we've experienced but in a good way.

[Blackrising]

JerZeyCJ2 wrote...

So, assuming we do get a female Kossith/Qunari LI, do you think that she should be a straight, gay, or bi LI? And what actions do you think she'd like/dislike? I'm leaning towards her being for both M and F Inquisitors, just because I don't see the Kossith/Qunari really caring about gender, just so long as you're strong, capable, honorable, and cunning. So I'd think you get +points with her for getting your way through force/violence and killing people for not being "honorable" or not keeping their end of the bargain. On the other hand, drawing out conversations to talk someone out of a fight instead of just getting it over with and killing when it isn't needed or necessary would give -points

Well, in Qunari society, sex seem to serve only the purpose of producing offspring. It can probably be assumed that homosexual relations are not common, maybe even unheard of, in Qunari society. But we've also heard that Qunari can and will feel affection for someone, but don't express it through physical interaction such as sex. So there is a possibility that intimacy of the homosexual kind exists. It just remains platonic and will most likely be viewed as any other kind of affection - not worth noticing.
If there was a Kossith (...are we still allowed to say that word or do I have to write 'people with greyish skin and horns' now?) female LI, I believe she should be bisexual and not only because I'm for all-bisexual LIs in general. If a Qunari were to come to genuinely care for a member of a different race, I can see that taking precedence over what gender that person is. I can see the race mattering a lot more than whether someone is male or female.
And in any case, a homosexual Qunari romance is, as I see it, too interesting to pass up. Because on top of her affection for someone of a different race, the LI in question also has to deal with the fact that it defies everything the Qun taught her about relationships. There will be no offspring, no logical explanation at all for what she's feeling.
And I can see a Qunari female (who, as we know, are not allowed to be warriors in Qunari society) becoming fascinated by a female PC who is a fighter and a leader, someone who is everything Qunari females are not allowed to be.

[Versus Omnibus]

Villiamus wrote...

This seemed like a bad Idea, now it appears to be a Very bad Idea,

May we ask why?

[SafetyShattered]

Versus Omnibus wrote...

Villiamus wrote...

This seemed like a bad Idea, now it appears to be a Very bad Idea,

May we ask why?

Seriously! I don't see what the big deal is either.

[JerZey CJ]

Shadowfang12 wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

Villiamus wrote...

This seemed like a bad Idea, now it appears to be a Very bad Idea,

May we ask why?

Seriously! I don't see what the big deal is either.

I was going to ask him the same thing. What initailly made it seem like a bad idea, and what made it turn into(for him) a "very bad" idea?

[Versus Omnibus]

JerZeyCJ2 wrote...

Shadowfang12 wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

Villiamus wrote...

This seemed like a bad Idea, now it appears to be a Very bad Idea,

May we ask why?

Seriously! I don't see what the big deal is either.

I was going to ask him the same thing. What initailly made it seem like a bad idea, and what made it turn into(for him) a "very bad" idea?

I'm thinking he is like everyone else: the physical diffierences between the Qunari's race and humans just doesn't seem possible to overcome. That and the number of people here who do want the romance just to satisfy some odd "craving" if you will.

[NomadDC]

Kossith LI... it sounds interesting. Like walking a minefield

[Fraq Hound]

Versus Omnibus wrote...

I'm thinking he is like everyone else: the physical diffierences between the Qunari's race and humans just doesn't seem possible to overcome. That and the number of people here who do want the romance just to satisfy some odd "craving" if you will.

An odd craving for compelling characters.

The audacity!

[Versus Omnibus]

Fraq Hound wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

I'm thinking he is like everyone else: the physical diffierences between the Qunari's race and humans just doesn't seem possible to overcome. That and the number of people here who do want the romance just to satisfy some odd "craving" if you will.

An odd craving for compelling characters.

The audacity!

I was refering to the people who simply want a female Qunari LI for their giant women fetish.

[unbentbuzzkill]

nice to see " the death by snu snu" isn't affecting this threads popularity

[TheShadowWolf911]

if there was a Female Qunari love interest, she must mention the phrase 'Snu Snu'

[Swagger7]

JerZeyCJ2 wrote...

Since I don't want to have to go and reply to everyone who made a "broken pelvis" joke, I'll just say it here. The Qunari(Kossith) are not that much bigger than humans, and not nearly large enough to be making that joke. We get it "haha, they're bigger than a human, so let's all make the same joke!" but remember how in that episode of Futurama how the amazons(or whatever they were) were like, THREE TIMES the size of the guys and they could pick them up? The Qunari(Kossith) are not nearly that big, and thanks to Masha's picture, we can see that a female is less than a head taller and a male is only just a head taller than a human.

Indeed, I have a cousin who's taller than that Qunari woman.  Qunari really aren't that large.

Look at this guy standing next to his 5'11" (182 cm) father:



Now that's tall!  He's 8'11" if you're wondering. (272 cm)

[Swagger7]

CaptainBlackGold wrote...

I am not sure whether the "Kossith" (though it seems this word is no longer the right one to use according to Mr. G.)

Where'd this come from?  I just found out about the name Kossith like a month ago....

[Guns]

Aren't female qunari not allowed to fight? What use would a companion who couldn't fight be? It would have to be a normal npc that you could bed like Isabela or Gheyna in Origins

[Auintus]

Guns wrote...

Aren't female qunari not allowed to fight? What use would a companion who couldn't fight be? It would have to be a normal npc that you could bed like Isabela or Gheyna in Origins

Thus, she is refered to as Kossith, implying that she has left the Qun or was never part of it. So the Qun forbidding female combatants is a non-issue.

[Guns]

Auintus wrote...

Guns wrote...

Aren't female qunari not allowed to fight? What use would a companion who couldn't fight be? It would have to be a normal npc that you could bed like Isabela or Gheyna in Origins

Thus, she is refered to as Kossith, implying that she has left the Qun or was never part of it. So the Qun forbidding female combatants is a non-issue.

I thought the term for those who forsake the Qun was Tal-Vashoth. 

Modifié par Guns, 01 novembre 2012 - 04:16 .

[Spankoman]

David Gaider wrote...

The fixation on romance displayed in these forums is borderline distasteful as it is . . .

Absolutely.

[Versus Omnibus]

Guns wrote...

Auintus wrote...

Guns wrote...

Aren't female qunari not allowed to fight? What use would a companion who couldn't fight be? It would have to be a normal npc that you could bed like Isabela or Gheyna in Origins

Thus, she is refered to as Kossith, implying that she has left the Qun or was never part of it. So the Qun forbidding female combatants is a non-issue.

I thought the term for those who forsake the Qun was Tal-Vashoth. 

Yes, but Kossith refers to the race both Qunari and Tal'Vashoth are. But many of us stopped calling them that after Gaider showed he hated the word. I'm more interested in a Tal'Vashoth women raised by humans to be the LI's backstory then anything else but Gaider what's the final say over the backstory.