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[Reaverwind]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

I want to get rid of ALL romance.

Want romance? Go play date sims.

After that garbage we got in DA2, I'm on board with this.

[berelinde]

mya11 wrote...

Parmida wrote...

I want! pretty please Bioware? *puppy eyes*

You can't dream but sorry he is 100 % straight

You can dream, but sorry, you will not get what you want.

Romances are optional, but expensive. Demanding that a romance be made to suit your limitations or not at all will only end one way. Sure, some people don't like romances and having them cut from the game will make these people happy. Perhaps they do not like the reminder of things that are missing from their own lives. Whatever. But for those of us who do enjoy the added dimension in-game relationships add, it's better to avoid making those demands in the first place.

The world is not like it was when DA:O came out. People are a lot more accepting of s/s relationships. There is no reason to cling to outdated beliefs. After all, back in the days of BG2, female protagonists were limited to the choice between Anomen and... Anomen. We've come too far to start back-sliding now.

[mya11]

I like the personn say Cullen is gay for dragon age 3 hum you work to Bioware for confirm? Hum and he is will mabye and mabye gay I hope Bioware make a male hetero for romance the girlplayers because in the life nobody are bi !

[mya11]

Sorry but me I am not a personn who want change sexuality for my "plaisir" and if Lelianna return to the game I don't want she became hetero because his personnality is bi and it's good choose and it's the same choice with Cullen he is hetero, I think a minory don't want or understand you destroy personnality beaucause a character steortyp !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Modifié par mya11, 21 septembre 2012 - 01:30 .

[jillabender]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

No..Cullen was in two games and never showed even a hint of bisexuality.

If Bioware really starts butcheing and retconning every character, then frak them.

With respect, I'm puzzled by describing the possibility of Cullen being romanceable by a male character as a potential "retcon" – why does the fact that Cullen "never showed a hint of bisexuality" mean that there's no possibility he could ever have been anything but straight?

In the case of most real-life people who are bisexual, you wouldn't know they're bisexual unless they've told you – why would you assume that someone couldn't possibly be bisexual without bringing it up?

[syllogi]

mya11 wrote...

I like the personn say Cullen is gay for dragon age 3 hum you work to Bioware for confirm? Hum and he is will mabye and mabye gay I hope Bioware make a male hetero for romance the girlplayers because in the life nobody are bi !

Now you're being offensive.  Yes, even if you don't know them, or they haven't come out to you, there are real people who are bisexual.  It's really not that hard to imagine.

[TsaiMeLemoni]

Part of me is still perplexed over wanting Cullen as an LI to begin with. Can't we just have strong professional relationships with characters? Seriously, sometimes it seems like Bioware characters shouldn't have time to save their respective worlds with all the sexing they do lol

[DarkKnightHolmes]

jillabender wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

No..Cullen was in two games and never showed even a hint of bisexuality.

If Bioware really starts butcheing and retconning every character, then frak them.

With respect, I'm puzzled by describing the possibility of Cullen being romanceable by a male character as a potential "retcon" – why does the fact that Cullen "never showed a hint of bisexuality" mean that there's no possibility he could ever have been anything but straight?

In the case of most real-life people who are bisexual, you wouldn't know they're bisexual unless they've told you – why would you assume that someone couldn't possibly be bisexual without bringing it up?

This excuse works for like one or two characters but are we going to really use this for every LI ever? "Oh, I like men and women, you just didn't know" everytime a returning characters becomes LI

It'll be even more awkward than just being unrealistic then..

[mya11]

syllogi wrote...

mya11 wrote...

I like the personn say Cullen is gay for dragon age 3 hum you work to Bioware for confirm? Hum and he is will mabye and mabye gay I hope Bioware make a male hetero for romance the girlplayers because in the life nobody are bi !

Now you're being offensive.  Yes, even if you don't know them, or they haven't come out to you, there are real people who are bisexual.  It's really not that hard to imagine.

Yes I know player are bi but of course they are too player hetero ! I don't understand why somebody critim me my opinion ! and I am really happy my friends are gay understand my opinion and that just it's the essentiel ! and now this conversation is again so nervous, I prefer wait the reaction of Bioware for know who is romeanceable...

[Ryzaki]

...I don't even want Cullen as a companion. Please no. Let him be a prominent character without being a romance/companion for the PC. He has more important things to do.

[berelinde]

syllogi wrote...

mya11 wrote...

I like the personn say Cullen is gay for dragon age 3 hum you work to Bioware for confirm? Hum and he is will mabye and mabye gay I hope Bioware make a male hetero for romance the girlplayers because in the life nobody are bi !

Now you're being offensive.  Yes, even if you don't know them, or they haven't come out to you, there are real people who are bisexual.  It's really not that hard to imagine.

You're right, but you're wasting your time, unfortunately. She is never going to get it.

Haters are loud, but there are fortunately very few of them. I don't think BioWare is going to go back to gender-restricted romances just because a small minority of players can't handle the idea that not everyone likes the same things they do.

That, and it's only a game.

[mya11]

berelinde wrote...

syllogi wrote...

mya11 wrote...

I like the personn say Cullen is gay for dragon age 3 hum you work to Bioware for confirm? Hum and he is will mabye and mabye gay I hope Bioware make a male hetero for romance the girlplayers because in the life nobody are bi !

Now you're being offensive.  Yes, even if you don't know them, or they haven't come out to you, there are real people who are bisexual.  It's really not that hard to imagine.

You're right, but you're wasting your time, unfortunately. She is never going to get it.

Haters are loud, but there are fortunately very few of them. I don't think BioWare is going to go back to gender-restricted romances just because a small minority of players can't handle the idea that not everyone likes the same things they do.

That, and it's only a game.

Ha ha so funny I am now a hater and a few minority please read this article for fangirl cullen  http://greywardens.c...epth-of-cullen/

[Sylvanpyxie]

It's simple. We kill the romance section.

I have to admit, so soon after seeing the Batman avatar, this cracked me up something chronic.


I have no problems with Cullen being Bi-Sexual. Then again I consider the general lack of focus on character depth, development and consistency far more troubling than a character being Player-Sexual or not.

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 21 septembre 2012 - 01:47 .

[Ryzaki]

mya11 wrote...

berelinde wrote...

syllogi wrote...

mya11 wrote...

I like the personn say Cullen is gay for dragon age 3 hum you work to Bioware for confirm? Hum and he is will mabye and mabye gay I hope Bioware make a male hetero for romance the girlplayers because in the life nobody are bi !

Now you're being offensive.  Yes, even if you don't know them, or they haven't come out to you, there are real people who are bisexual.  It's really not that hard to imagine.

You're right, but you're wasting your time, unfortunately. She is never going to get it.

Haters are loud, but there are fortunately very few of them. I don't think BioWare is going to go back to gender-restricted romances just because a small minority of players can't handle the idea that not everyone likes the same things they do.

That, and it's only a game.

Ha ha so funny I am now a hater and a few minority please read this article for fangirl cullen  http://greywardens.c...epth-of-cullen/

You must be an idiot.

It's the bolded they took issue with. Utterly butchered english aside.

[mya11]

Ryzaki wrote...

mya11 wrote...

berelinde wrote...

syllogi wrote...

mya11 wrote...

I like the personn say Cullen is gay for dragon age 3 hum you work to Bioware for confirm? Hum and he is will mabye and mabye gay I hope Bioware make a male hetero for romance the girlplayers because in the life nobody are bi !

Now you're being offensive.  Yes, even if you don't know them, or they haven't come out to you, there are real people who are bisexual.  It's really not that hard to imagine.

You're right, but you're wasting your time, unfortunately. She is never going to get it.

Haters are loud, but there are fortunately very few of them. I don't think BioWare is going to go back to gender-restricted romances just because a small minority of players can't handle the idea that not everyone likes the same things they do.

That, and it's only a game.

Ha ha so funny I am now a hater and a few minority please read this article for fangirl cullen  http://greywardens.c...epth-of-cullen/

You must be an idiot.

It's the bolded they took issue with. Utterly butchered english aside.

Oh thanks and you too a big id.....

[Parmida]

Wow! so much hating and negative posts that make my skin itch! you guys are masters of hating.

[syllogi]

mya11 wrote...

syllogi wrote...

mya11 wrote...

I like the personn say Cullen is gay for dragon age 3 hum you work to Bioware for confirm? Hum and he is will mabye and mabye gay I hope Bioware make a male hetero for romance the girlplayers because in the life nobody are bi !

Now you're being offensive.  Yes, even if you don't know them, or they haven't come out to you, there are real people who are bisexual.  It's really not that hard to imagine.

Yes I know player are bi but of course they are too player hetero ! I don't understand why somebody critim me my opinion ! and I am really happy my friends are gay understand my opinion and that just it's the essentiel ! and now this conversation is again so nervous, I prefer wait the reaction of Bioware for know who is romeanceable...

Your statement was that *nobody* "in the life" are bisexual, so I took it at face value.  You don't seem to understand what it means.  Bisexuality is a sexual orientation separate from homosexuality or heterosexuality.  It's swell that you are happy for your gay friends, but if they identify as gay, they are exclusively attracted to those of their own sex and/or gender.  Bisexual people are attracted to both their own sex and the opposite sex.  As someone who identifies as bisexual, if I date a woman, I am in a homosexual relationship, but that does not magically stop me from being attracted to men.  If I did later date a man, that would not make either relationship less real or meaningful.

Out of curiosity, are you using Google Translate to type your posts?  I would suggest using Chrome and adding the Dictionary extension to help correct your spelling.  It would help get your points across better if your posts were more readable.

[TamiBx]

This would only happen if he's a companion, of course...which I hope he is...I'm praying he is...lol

Ryzaki wrote...

...I don't even want Cullen as a companion. Please no. Let him be a prominent character without being a romance/companion for the PC. He has more important things to do.

Hm...he's a Templar. There is a Templar vs Mage war. What else could be more important than fighting it/trying to stop it?! 

Modifié par TamiBx, 21 septembre 2012 - 02:17 .

[Lilaeth]

Come on guys, you're jumping on someone who's obviously trying to express themselves in a foreign language.

[_Dana_]

If we'll have another m\\m character, then yes, if not...
He reminds me of Anders too much (probably because they were voiced by the same VO) and I want to see someone different for m/m romance.

Modifié par _Dana_, 21 septembre 2012 - 02:34 .

[Ryzaki]

TamiBx wrote...

This would only happen if he's a companion, of course...which I hope he is...I'm praying he is...lol

Ryzaki wrote...

...I don't even want Cullen as a companion. Please no. Let him be a prominent character without being a romance/companion for the PC. He has more important things to do.

Hm...he's a Templar. There is a Templar vs Mage war. What else could be more important than fighting it/trying to stop it?! 

Stopping it without being 2nd fiddle to the player character is what.

Lilaeth wrote...

Come on guys, you're jumping on someone who's obviously trying to express themselves in a foreign language.

Fair enough I'm not in a good mood to start with.

mya11 wrote...
Oh thanks and you too a big id.....

id? What you mean idiot?

So you understand that the issue is with the bisexuals comment? 

[formaristarry]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Sure, why not? I think Allan posted in another thread about why it's easier on the devs in terms of resources to have characters bisexual, and to just consider it a meta sort of game mechanic instead of letting it get under our skin.

Exactly, and I would say that is probably what they will do again. 

The bisexuality of the LI's in DA2 was handled subtly imo, and did not affect their personality, in fact, I believe Bioware kept sexuality from influencing personality in any way (except characters like Isabela and Zevran, and still, it had no bearing on plot). Furthermore, although the LI's were bi, can you honestly say that their personality was changed whether romanced or not?  

For example, my first playthrough was a female Hawke who romanced Anders and I had no idea that he was bisexual given the in game content. When I romanced him later as a male, he was still Anders, his sexuality had no bearing on who he was or what he was about in terms of story and character. And when I did not romance him, he was still Anders.

In no instance did any LI have their sexuality play a part in their convictions, choices, morality, or anything really, it was as separate as the option to romance at all is. In fact, if you did not romance any of them at all, at no point did any character (or more specifically any potential LI)  say, "Well I'm doing this or saying this because I'm bi."  

In Origins, if Alistair had been bisexual, I think he still would have been the same goofy, shy, bastard of a king that he was, and Morrigan would have still been her athiest barbed tongued self out for an old god baby.

In short, let everyone have the option to romance whoever they want.

[Parmida]

randomlycosmic wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Sure, why not? I think Allan posted in another thread about why it's easier on the devs in terms of resources to have characters bisexual, and to just consider it a meta sort of game mechanic instead of letting it get under our skin.

Exactly, and I would say that is probably what they will do again. 

The bisexuality of the LI's in DA2 was handled subtly imo, and did not affect their personality, in fact, I believe Bioware kept sexuality from influencing personality in any way (except characters like Isabela and Zevran, and still, it had no bearing on plot). Furthermore, although the LI's were bi, can you honestly say that their personality was changed whether romanced or not?  

For example, my first playthrough was a female Hawke who romanced Anders and I had no idea that he was bisexual given the in game content. When I romanced him later as a male, he was still Anders, his sexuality had no bearing on who he was or what he was about in terms of story and character. And when I did not romance him, he was still Anders.

In no instance did any LI have their sexuality play a part in their convictions, choices, morality, or anything really, it was as separate as the option to romance at all is. In fact, if you did not romance any of them at all, at no point did any character (or more specifically any potential LI)  say, "Well I'm doing this or saying this because I'm bi."  

In Origins, if Alistair had been bisexual, I think he still would have been the same goofy, shy, bastard of a king that he was, and Morrigan would have still been her athiest barbed tongued self out for an old god baby.

In short, let everyone have the option to romance whoever they want.

I think I love you....<3<3<3

[c_cat]

I really hope he is. In fact, I would be very disappointed if he isn't.

[formaristarry]

Parmida wrote...

randomlycosmic wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Sure, why not? I think Allan posted in another thread about why it's easier on the devs in terms of resources to have characters bisexual, and to just consider it a meta sort of game mechanic instead of letting it get under our skin.

Exactly, and I would say that is probably what they will do again. 

The bisexuality of the LI's in DA2 was handled subtly imo, and did not affect their personality, in fact, I believe Bioware kept sexuality from influencing personality in any way (except characters like Isabela and Zevran, and still, it had no bearing on plot). Furthermore, although the LI's were bi, can you honestly say that their personality was changed whether romanced or not?  

For example, my first playthrough was a female Hawke who romanced Anders and I had no idea that he was bisexual given the in game content. When I romanced him later as a male, he was still Anders, his sexuality had no bearing on who he was or what he was about in terms of story and character. And when I did not romance him, he was still Anders.

In no instance did any LI have their sexuality play a part in their convictions, choices, morality, or anything really, it was as separate as the option to romance at all is. In fact, if you did not romance any of them at all, at no point did any character (or more specifically any potential LI)  say, "Well I'm doing this or saying this because I'm bi."  

In Origins, if Alistair had been bisexual, I think he still would have been the same goofy, shy, bastard of a king that he was, and Morrigan would have still been her athiest barbed tongued self out for an old god baby.

In short, let everyone have the option to romance whoever they want.

I think I love you....<3<3<3

As Varric would say, I get that alot.  j/k