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[darkpassenger2342]

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Playing Gold/Platinum with Randoms.

 you mean diamond difficulty, right? since platinum on pc is so much harder.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 21 septembre 2012 - 06:45 .

[AngryBobH]

Xaijin wrote...

Situational awareness trumps anything else by a gigantic margin.

This

As well as experience with multiple characters on random matches.

although, weapon usage(quick aim, quick scope, speedy headshots, ammo quantity awareness) are best improved by speedruns.

[nicethugbert]

A combination of attempting to solo and playing with people who are generous with information about the game.

[Immortal Strife]

Learn how to make good builds and your performance will jump up by leaps and bounds.

[Caineghis2500]

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[MaxShine]

Knowledge of spawn points
wave budget
enemy composition (I know exactely which enemies spawn in which wave )
tricks from the forums
different builds from the forums
understanding of the game mechanics (thank you peddroelmz,corlist and others )
last but not least applying this knowledge in a solo/duo

[Miclotov]

Communication.

[Doni]

I don't think you can single any of those out as "more important". As Mordin would say, too many variables. Each class, loadout, and play style emphasizes different survival/gameplay skills to different degrees.

[ASmoothCriminalx]

right-hand advantage, use of stagger, reload cancelling.

Using all of these will improve a player's performance tenfold

[Stenun]

Promoting.

Seriously.

Learning how to stay alive while level 1 and still get a good score ... does wonders for a player.

[Cole Frehlen]

Having a mic, and using it. Playing with friends, who are communicating, makes it a lot more likely that we're going to succeed. We've got each other's backs.

Other than that, I'd say a combination of all 3. Being able to solo a difficulty means you'll be more likely to clutch a wave in a team game if needs be. Working as a team, you shouldn't need to except on a bad objective wave (we've all had them). And speed running will give you the confidence to get out from behind the counters, move around a bit.

[Glucose77777]

Zero lag

[Cohen le Barbare]

What helps me is soloing, using characters against enemies that are difficult for them (like turians VS geths) as it helps understanding them and in the long run, it helps coping with the frustration of playing random/random.

[-JP-]

Trying to learn from people who are better than yourself.. ..and trying out different classes, powers, weapons. You won't improve much if all you do is play as a krogan tank with the same weapons on the same map all the bloody time.

[AustereLemur799]

From a team-based perspective:

My game totally changed when I learned to play the character, not the class. Thinking about playing the asari vanguard as a vanguard or the QME as an engineer was really holding me back. I needed to think as though I was playing like a soldier in those instances (not a vanguard or engineer).

Situational awareness really comes down to experience. The top tip is obviously: look before you run. Try and preserve your character rather than run in all guns blazing and get killed. Bronze teaches you that recklessness is acceptable. It's most certainly not on gold and above.

Keep one eye on the kill feed when a team-mate is downed to see what enemy killed them - this will help you prepare accordingly on how to tackle the situation and revive them successfully. NOTE: I know that sometimes the player is taken out by an enemy they weren't actually fighting (for instance fighting a Banshee and then get taken out by a stray bullet from a Marauder [which may actually be considered good luck]).

Managing consumables is also down to experience. You will learn to read the situations, i.e. don't waste medi-gel at the very end of the wave when there are two enemies left. Sometimes this will require you to put faith in your team - which sometimes backfires. On the other hand sometimes you can't afford to be stingy with your medi-gel. Some people appreciate help rather than being given the pressure to solo the wave. If you can help; do so.

I have a bad habit of hitting ops packs too late - they go in just as I die. On the up side, at least I have a shiny blue corpse which stands out to my team-mates as a beacon that I need to be revived.

Using missiles is, again, experience (noticing a pattern here?). On Bronze and Silver, they are only used on bosses. However, Gold will teach you that it is necessary to use them on lesser bosses in order to clear hack zones and generally help from getting overrun on objective waves. They are also useful for clearing out hordes in order to get to a downed team-mate.

When soloing objectives, you will learn how to kite the enemy and lead them to the opposite side of the map from where the objective is.

Those are the most important things I can think of. It's all a learning curve.

Sorry for long text  

[Computron2000]

Soloing because it teaches you that you had better medigel or use other consumable because no one is going to white knight and save your ass. Just came out of another game where somehow the medigel button has mysteriously vanished for the other 3. That single lesson would boost the general play for the entire playerbase

[GallowsPole]

As Nike once said…Just Do It. This is a co-op game, so what does soloing teach you? Nothing. Unless of course you're just going to solo all your matches. Common sense dictates, hey I better hide behind this wall so I don't take hits. Hey I need to take this medigel or bleed out. Hey, if I can nuke where the AI spawns, that's a lot of targets down at once.

Speed runs. No different. Taking the best load outs that can annihilate spawns fast and knowing the spawn points. Sure you can read about them here, but you'll learn them playing. It isn't rocket scientist to learn them.

Everything else is situational awareness and learning the abilities and weaknesses of your character. One of the things that make me chuckle is the way people make this game way too over complicated with builds, load outs, videos etc etc. phooey. It's an AI easily beaten. Just learn how to beat it consistently.

[Vakarian14]

The answer to all 3 is experience. Nothing is more important that failing and learning from them.

[FasterThanFTL]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Playing Gold/Platinum with Randoms.

 you mean diamond difficulty, right? since platinum on pc is so much harder.

Its still Platinum for PC because we have Mouse and Keyboard to deal with it.

I also have a spare account, if you are not convinced what  I said is true you are welcome to take my 25% challenge also and see for yourself how the PC Platinum AI will kick your butt when you try to play it with a 360 controller without auto aim to help you out.

Modifié par FasterThanFTL, 21 septembre 2012 - 11:55 .

[Homey C-Dawg]

Why exactly are you asking this OP? If you're soloing platinum, then I can't imagine you actually need the advice. Are you grading peoples answers or something?

[Disciple888]

Soloing plus game mechanics. Ironically, soloing a lot makes you a better teammate. You die less, learn how to deplete the wave budget faster, how to manage objectives, and become more aware of when to use consumables. You also gain a better understanding of builds and load outs. I've found a lot of builds and weapons posted on bsn just don't cut it when soloing platinum, which means there are weaknesses being masked by other teammates.

Game mechanics are important too. Understanding wave budgets means that instead of spending time kiting a banshee, you will just go kill three rocket troopers, which is ultimately worth more and is more time efficient.

[Caineghis2500]

FasterThanFTL wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Playing Gold/Platinum with Randoms.

 you mean diamond difficulty, right? since platinum on pc is so much harder.

Its still Platinum for PC because we have Mouse and Keyboard to deal with it.

I also have a spare account, if you are not convinced what  I said is true you are welcome to take my 25% challenge also and see for yourself how the PC Platinum AI will kick your butt when you try to play it with a 360 controller without auto aim to help you out.

still ranting about pc superiority huh? lol

[SoulRebel_1979]

neteng101 wrote...

Gold PUGs

Yup, was gonna say the same thing. Nothing forces you to improve faster in my opinion.  

[Happy Shepard]

Leveling up your weapons.

If you have a lot of weapons maxed or aquired some URs, you can start using inferior weapons to improve your skill. Until then, get the best weapons and biulds you can to learn how to deal with higher difficulties. Then work on trying to beat those difficulties with weaker biulds and weapons.

[GallowsPole]

Don't know when people are going to realize that auto aim is the worst thing implemented on the console. This is the only game I've played where you can't shut the damned thing off.