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[Vitlen]

Yes. but  I won`t like the game as much and will be really upset

[Confused-Shepard]

Bioware has a late night pay per view porn channel understanding of what romance is.
Better of go the Witcher route and just have graphic sex scenes with no actual romance.

[wsandista]

How can I roleplay if I can't have secks with a character who has the personality of a cardboard box and won't say no? Next people will be suggesting that the game shouldn't constantly remind the PC how AWESOMES they are or that the PC should be able to fail.

[wiskeylab]

ScarMK wrote...

Yes. Simply because I'm more curious as to what happens in this little MageVTemplar war. I will be a bit disappointed if the Qunari don't take advantage of though. However, I can say that if they are removed, it'll likely end up as my DA2. Sitting on the shelf gathering dust while I replay Origins for the 20th time.

same here lol, although i've replayed origins much more than 20 times lol. 

[wiskeylab]

come on people, tales of dragons, elves, dwarves, monsters. a dangerous evil, and only a small group of people strong enough to rescue the world from complete and utter devastation. that's what fantasy stories are all about. and as far as i can tell, every fantasy and sci-fi book i've ever read has had romances tbh if bioware left that out of DA:3, i wouldn't buy it. and a couple of you have said that the romances in origins had no bearing on the story - not true. human noble romances alistair she becomes queen, the way i see it that has some bearing on the main storyline.

[Merlex]

Yes i would, romances is not why i play RPGs. But i would be a little disappointed. I do enjoy character/ companion interactions. I like forming a bond or rivalry with a companion. It helps with immersion, feels more like life.

Bioware does seem to make them more about sex than romance though. I don't need sex scenes, fade to black is fine with me. Isabela's foreplay looked clumsy to me. To me romance isn't all about hopping into bed. I prefer to see a bond grow between two characters, and shows of affection. NWN was the other extreme, and i was disappointed with Sharon's friendship.

[Darth Death]

Sylvanpyxie wrote...

Would people be ok with romance but no sex?

I have no idea if this is an actual question to be answered, or just rhetorical rambling...

Obviously, it's a question. I even gave an example that you selectively ignored.

[Sylvanpyxie]

Obviously, it's a question.

I wasn't trying to be rude, I just wanted to be sure that it was an actual question before I responded to it.

Personally, I don't see why sex could, or should, be the climax (pardon the pun) of romantic story arcs. However, I've had many discussions with people on forums over the years, regarding character romances that didn't end in a sexual conclusion and a number of them consider such romances to be "empty and shallow".

I don't understand it myself, and find the entire requirement of sexual climax (again the pun) to be bizarre.

There's one romance, from a different developer, that I've enjoyed more than anything Bioware has written, and that is Bishop from Neverwinter Nights 2. He was originally intended as a romance option for Female Players, but the content was apparently cut and his "sexual conclusion" was removed.

Despite that, I find Bishop to have one of the most engaging romantic story arcs I've experienced and that's saying quite a bit. I certainly consider him to be more engaging than Casavir, the other Female Player love interest in the game, who actually has a sexual conclusion to his romance arc.

The final dialogue between a Female Player and Bishop is actually friendship dialogue, not linked to romance at all, and yet it fits so excellently into his character that it feels as though it was created for a romantic story arc. Before the final end-game he ends up showing so much raw vulnerability that it truly gives you a glimpse at how much he trusts and respects the Female Player.

Yet, despite the fact Bishop openly flirts with a Female Player, despite how obvious his romantic involvement is and how excellent I, personally, consider Bishop's romantic conclusion to be, a number of people I've discussed it with, both on the BSN and on different forums, consider Bishop's romance to be "null and void" due to the fact that it has no sexual conclusion.

Short answer to your question - From my experience, a large number of people consider a "sexual climax" to be necessary in order for a romance to have any real substance to it. I, personally, don't see how it matters, some of my favourite romances had no sexual conclusion to them and I honestly feel that, because the romance wasn't centered around an ultimate climax, they were far more engaging as a result.

Again - Sorry for appearing rude before, I honestly find it hard to tell if a question is rhetorical or not on these forums. I also apologize for the length of my post...

Oh yeah - And this is all based entirely on my own, personal, experiences and various conversations I've had over the years with a number of people, as well as large parts lurking. It's entirely my opinion and my experiences and I'm not implying anything about anyone specifically, except maybe the people that I've spoken to years before this about this particular topic I suppose........ Uh... Yeah - Sorry if anyone is offended, it wasn't intended and I'm not implying the BSN is sex-mad.

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 06 octobre 2012 - 08:26 .

[garrusfan1]

I would still play it but bioware is known for how it makes it's characters. By that I mean they actually feel real (in a way) honestly Skyrim marriage system is pitiful but Bethesda isn't known for its characters like bioware is so it would hurt DA3 not to have romance

[Hadea]

Yes, I would. But I wouldn't advocate leaving them out, either. I want to add more choices and options to a game, not take them away.

I'm not sure why the existence of optional romances bothers some people so much. Bioware games can already be played without romance.

[Darth Death]

Sylvanpyxie wrote...

Obviously, it's a question.

Snip

It's all good man, I really appreciate your humility. Thanks for your input.  

[NUM13ER]

No romances? The shippers would rage with the fire of a thousand suns. If it had an enjoyable story and interesting companions then I wouldn't mind. Personally romances are a nice addition story and character wise but not essential.

But yeah you've seen the million threads on this game alone crying foul if "X" isn't able to hump such and such. I can only imagine how they'd react with no-one to chose from at all.

Modifié par NUM13ER, 06 octobre 2012 - 10:55 .

[ledod]

Yes. In all honesty, I always thought that the romance options were a little odd. I am no prude by any means, but the sex scenes always weirded me out haha- especially with that funky, cheesy-ethereal ballad in the background.

[Jonata]

ledod wrote...

Yes. In all honesty, I always thought that the romance options were a little odd. I am no prude by any means, but the sex scenes always weirded me out haha- especially with that funky, cheesy-ethereal ballad in the background.

Funk improves everything.

[RetroActiv]

Honestly i wouldn't mind as i think it would be a nice change of pace. They're beginning to feel forced anyway. Of course that isn't going to happen though.

[HTTP 404]

I would definitely play it. There are many times when I play mass effect or dragon age that I would forget to "romance" someone. I get caught up in the story and what I need to do next that romance isn't big on my list. Besides sometimes it feels hokey to me but that's just my opinion, I know some people here live and die from their interactions with their LIs.

[HTTP 404]

Tancred Of The Chantry wrote...

Hadea wrote...
I'm not sure why the existence of optional romances bothers some people so much. Bioware games can already be played without romance.

Exactly.

My argument would be that my character wouldn't be able to get to know and connect with a companion better without romancing them.  A good example of this working without romance is Aveline.  I am totally cool with optional romances if it doesn't take away from wanting to be a good friend/buddy

[Yumichika]

If DA3 had no romance, i will not play it!

[Volus Warlord]

If DA3 had no romance, I might have more respect for the game.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Yeah. Might enjoy it less, but I'd still play it.

[Fast Jimmy]

Yumichika wrote...

If DA3 had no romance, i will not play it!

What if it was Romance DLC?

And before anyone objects, let's not forget that part of the highly-lauded Lair of the Shadow Broker DLC included the romance of Liara, in addition to the rest of the DLC's content.

[themikefest]

Yes. I would still play the game.

[RetroActiv]

Volus Warlord wrote...

If DA3 had no romance, I might have more respect for the game.

I agree. It would be nice to see Bioware grow some balls for once and not always have a "must pander to everyone" attitude.