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RetroActiv wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

If DA3 had no romance, I might have more respect for the game.


I agree. It would be nice to see Bioware grow some balls for once and not always have a "must pander to everyone" attitude.

Except, of course, pandering to the minority of people who are offended by the very idea of romance being in the game. Their tastes must always be accommodated.

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Xilizhra wrote...

RetroActiv wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

If DA3 had no romance, I might have more respect for the game.


I agree. It would be nice to see Bioware grow some balls for once and not always have a "must pander to everyone" attitude.

Except, of course, pandering to the minority of people who are offended by the very idea of romance being in the game. Their tastes must always be accommodated.


Exactly. We are privileged and genetically superior compared to you useless romance-loving infidels. 

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^

This won't end well.

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The possibility of romances does not determine whether or not I will play the game.

That being said, were romances excluded in this installment of the Dragon Age series, I would personally feel that the game would be inadequate. While I enjoy the games for it's plot, combat, etc; I also enjoy them for the romance subplot. Character romance has become part of the BioWare game experience. Were it cut out, well, it just wouldn't be the same.

Modifié par Flashflame58, 13 février 2013 - 06:16 .


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Xilizhra

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Volus Warlord wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

RetroActiv wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

If DA3 had no romance, I might have more respect for the game.


I agree. It would be nice to see Bioware grow some balls for once and not always have a "must pander to everyone" attitude.

Except, of course, pandering to the minority of people who are offended by the very idea of romance being in the game. Their tastes must always be accommodated.


Exactly. We are privileged and genetically superior compared to you useless romance-loving infidels. 

Infidels... against what, precisely?

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I would buy it without romance, because that means I won't have to burn my eyes out after watching one of their horribly animated sex scenes. Even though I skip the scene asap, just having the thought of underwear sex in my head makes it explode.

I hope in DA3, either BioWare does 100% fade to black scenes, because they're 10x better than underwear sex. Or they just go Witcher 2 style.

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Xilizhra wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

RetroActiv wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

If DA3 had no romance, I might have more respect for the game.


I agree. It would be nice to see Bioware grow some balls for once and not always have a "must pander to everyone" attitude.

Except, of course, pandering to the minority of people who are offended by the very idea of romance being in the game. Their tastes must always be accommodated.


Exactly. We are privileged and genetically superior compared to you useless romance-loving infidels. 

Infidels... against what, precisely?


Against not wanting romance in games.

P.S. You're overthinking this.

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Against not wanting romance in games.

P.S. You're overthinking this.

I'm only trying to compensate for a complete lack of thought on the other end.

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I`d rather have no romances, than have everyone being into my character like in DA2 (every love interest, that is). Made me feel like a sexual Mary Sue.

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Xilizhra wrote...

Against not wanting romance in games.

P.S. You're overthinking this.

I'm only trying to compensate for a complete lack of thought on the other end.


It only seems that way because my thoughts are on superior plane of thinking that is beyond your comprehension.

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You if the game had to rely solely on his RP elements? Sounds terrible.

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It would really make no sense to remove an element from a game that was on a previous one.But they have done it before :/...That being said if the gameplay looks good(as well as the reviews and I mean real reviews)then yes.

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...I would be less interested in it. Though I have to admit I personally hated the playersexual characters in DA2. A recent interview with Mr. Gaider had some interesting points about romances.

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Yes but there would have to be a master of my own domain cutscene that could be triggered by the player whenever they wish.  Perhaps put it on a hotkey.

Modifié par Beerfish, 13 février 2013 - 05:15 .


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iSousek wrote...

...I would be less interested in it. Though I have to admit I personally hated the playersexual characters in DA2. A recent interview with Mr. Gaider had some interesting points about romances.


Where he talked about how he'd possibly want to do a game with zero romance content, but that the fans would cry tears of rage into an infinite oblivion of sorrow, so they can't do it. 


If fans are holding writers hostage with demanded content, there is something wrong, to me.

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Fast Jimmy wrote...
If fans are holding writers hostage with demanded content, there is something wrong, to me.


That's a bit over the top. No one has resorted to violence, yet. :whistle:

Furthermore, since romances were a part of the first two Dragon Age games, it isn't unreasonable to expect them to be a part of DA3. Also, it was easy to skip the romances in both DAO and DA2. It's also reasonable to expect to be able to do the same in DA3.

If a player wishes to be 'Forever Alone' in games that's fine, but that doesn't mean that all games should be required to conform to that mode of play.

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Fast Jimmy wrote...

iSousek wrote...

...I would be less interested in it. Though I have to admit I personally hated the playersexual characters in DA2. A recent interview with Mr. Gaider had some interesting points about romances.


Where he talked about how he'd possibly want to do a game with zero romance content, but that the fans would cry tears of rage into an infinite oblivion of sorrow, so they can't do it. 


If fans are holding writers hostage with demanded content, there is something wrong, to me.


I absolutely agree and sadly it seems that is very much the case. I think true fans wouldn't demand the series be  made a perennial dating sim and would get over it.

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Besides, I suspect the man is free to quit.
I'm sure if the romances are such a hated thig to him, as the romance-opposition try to make of his words, he would have.

Modifié par Knight of Dane, 13 février 2013 - 06:16 .


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Knight of Dane wrote...

Besides, I suspect the man is free to quit. I'm sure if the romances are such a hated thig to him as the romance-opposition try to make of his words, he would have.


So... you'd want the Lead Writer, who has pretty much solely made the vast majority of framework for the DA universe and how it all fits together, to quit if he didn't want to do a DA game with romance?

...I hope you realize how insane that sounds.

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Fast Jimmy wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

Besides, I suspect the man is free to quit. I'm sure if the romances are such a hated thig to him as the romance-opposition try to make of his words, he would have.


So... you'd want the Lead Writer, who has pretty much solely made the vast majority of framework for the DA universe and how it all fits together, to quit if he didn't want to do a DA game with romance?

...I hope you realize how insane that sounds.

Come on Jimmy, I know you are smarter than that.
Where in my post do you see me stating a personal priority?

I said that if the romances of dragon age games was as horrible a thing to David as some fans blow it up to behe would have quitted already.

If I dislike my job I quit.
Edit: Or I make do.

Just to clarify:
You wrote "If fans are holding writers hostage with demanded content, there is something wrong, to me."
Which is no where true. If that was the case then he would simply no longer work on the project.

I don't want him to quit.
But he would have if he did feel as you so describe.
Get it? :3

Modifié par Knight of Dane, 13 février 2013 - 05:42 .


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Big Mac Heart Attack wrote...

I would buy it without romance, because that means I won't have to burn my eyes out after watching one of their horribly animated sex scenes. Even though I skip the scene asap, just having the thought of underwear sex in my head makes it explode.

I hope in DA3, either BioWare does 100% fade to black scenes, because they're 10x better than underwear sex. Or they just go Witcher 2 style.


I prefer the DA2 romance scenes to the DA:O ones for this reason.  Watching my PC roll around in her underwear with her LI in front of everyone in the camp is sooooo awkward.

To answer the OP, yes I'd play it.  I might not get as into it though because the romances add to the story for me.

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I wouldn't preorder like I usually do, that's for sure.

Modifié par Lenimph, 13 février 2013 - 05:57 .


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Confused-Shepard wrote...

Bioware has a late night pay per view porn channel understanding of what romance is.
Better of go the Witcher route and just have graphic sex scenes with no actual romance.



Wait a sec hold on here.... Have you actually watched a late night soft core porno?

Because that is what the Witcher series romances are completely and solely. 
And they are certainly not "graphic" in my eyes, especially when compared to actual graphic pornography.

DA2/ME3 is more like a love scene in a YA novel or a main stream tv show but a hell of a lot more awkward because of the in game models compared to real people.  

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I don't think the game would be nearly as immersive, to me at least. Bioware's ability to create a full range of characters that are interesting is what makes their games superior to others I play, and I play a lot of games. The romances are all a part of that experience.
Should they discontinue that part, I would still most likely buy, but later on when cheaper and chances are the DLC would not be of interest. I liked Awaking but meh on replay.
I also agree with an above poster, one of the best, most complicated relationships that still sticks in my mind is Bishop from NWN2. Someone had brought up about a LI betraying you in the game, although not technically a LI, he is an interesting case study. I personally would not mind more characters similar to him.

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Knight of Dane wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

Besides, I suspect the man is free to quit. I'm sure if the romances are such a hated thig to him as the romance-opposition try to make of his words, he would have.


So... you'd want the Lead Writer, who has pretty much solely made the vast majority of framework for the DA universe and how it all fits together, to quit if he didn't want to do a DA game with romance?

...I hope you realize how insane that sounds.

Come on Jimmy, I know you are smarter than that.
Where in my post do you see me stating a personal priority?

I said that if the romances of dragon age games was as horrible a thing to David as some fans blow it up to behe would have quitted already.

If I dislike my job I quit.
Edit: Or I make do.

Just to clarify:
You wrote "If fans are holding writers hostage with demanded content, there is something wrong, to me."
Which is no where true. If that was the case then he would simply no longer work on the project.

I don't want him to quit.
But he would have if he did feel as you so describe.
Get it? :3


Well to be fair you have some awkward sentence structure at times which makes it difficult to understand the points your trying to make. I don't think fans think romances are  a horrible thing. Some of us just don't think it should be a mandatory thing.