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[Emzamination]

TsaiMeLemoni wrote...

Blackrising wrote...

Nope.

I could just pick up any other RPG then.

Are you really saying that without romance options Bioware games are really like ANY other RPG in terms of story and atmosphere? It's not like without them we'd be stuck with a Skyrim clone (not that that would even necessarily be a bad thing).

No, but the extra aspect they offer does glisten in the eye and set them right square on top of the gaming chain.If that extra was to disapear...bioware would still be good but other companies might start looking better.

[Biotic_Warlock]

EntropicAngel wrote...

It wouldn't be bad. As long as you aren't forced to have a relationship with someone.

Of course that hasn't happened before... (well except the Liara glitch).

[jackofalltrades456]

I could live without them.

Dragon Age:Origins: Had amazing romances, but seem to be lacking with continuity. (Leliana set for a major role? Confirms she's no longer with the Warden at the ending of DA2? Morrigan going to return? Warden's story is over?)

Dragon Age 2: The romances were extremely railroaded. The options to open up the romance was limited. You have sex with them act 2, they move into your house by act 3, and then you never speak to them again. They were boring and I felt little connection with any of Hawke's love interest in the end. I didn't really care for them.

Dragon Age 3: Seems to be heading into fan-serviced romances (Cullen, Cassandra, Varric.)

Modifié par jackofalltrades456, 21 septembre 2012 - 11:25 .

[Gabey5]

We still have brothels baby

[Blackrising]

jackofalltrades456 wrote...

I could live without them.

Dragon Age:Origins: Had amazing romances, but seem to be lacking with continuity. (Leliana set for a major role? Confirms she's no longer with the Warden at the ending of DA2? Morrigan going to return? Warden's story is over?)

Dragon Age 2: The romances were extremely railroaded. The options to open up the romance was limited. You have sex with them back act 2, they move into your house by act 3, and then you never speak to them again. They were boring and I felt little connection with any of Hawke's love interest in the end. I didn't really care for them.

Dragon Age 3: Seems to be heading into fan-serviced romances (Cullen, Cassandra, Varric.)

Well, nothing's confirmed yet. They may decide to be giant trolls and make Cullen asexual after his mage trauma, kill off Cassandra in the first five minutes of the game and reveal Varric was reunited with the wife he had to leave behind (named Bianca, OC).

...Actually, if that happened, I might just have to laugh like a maniac.

[Herr Uhl]

jackofalltrades456 wrote...

Dragon Age 3: Seems to be heading into fan-serviced romances (Cullen, Cassandra, Varric.)

I've been away a while. What has implied this?

[TsaiMeLemoni]

Herr Uhl wrote...

jackofalltrades456 wrote...

Dragon Age 3: Seems to be heading into fan-serviced romances (Cullen, Cassandra, Varric.)

I've been away a while. What has implied this?

Nothing from Bioware.

[Pelle6666]

No options or no romance? A fixed LI is better than no LI but all the other aspects of the game would have to be very good if I were to play it if the romance went.

[Renmiri1]

filetemo wrote...

I'm fine with no romaces in DA3. Just give me a brothel and casual sex with NPC's

The Witcher 1 and 2 await you 


Bioware games are a package deal to me. I muddled through the clunky combat and predictable plot of DAO because there were good innovative things happening like the romance. On DA2 the combat was better and the story was very creative and deep and romance was a big part of what made it fun. ME1 and 2 were fun but when ME3 removed all the RPG stuff to put more action it ruined the game to me.

There are very good games out there. If I was in a desert island with only Bioware games to paly, ya, I'd play romance or not. Since my RL is not on a desert island though, I would rather spend my limited free time in games I enjoy. To kill orcs and pwn on multiplayer ? WoW. To enjoy a good story ? A book (remember those ?) or a well made balanced video game. With a combat system I can mash buttons like WoW 

[Darth Death]

Pelle6666 wrote...

No options or no romance? A fixed LI is better than no LI but all the other aspects of the game would have to be very good if I were to play it if the romance went.

I meant no romance.

[MKDAWUSS]

I'd be fine with no romance TBH. Especially if the PC gets shot down trying to start one.

[labargegrrrl]

i'd play it. romance isn't just about relationships, it's a way of existing. the ideas we're looking at facing in DAI are romantic enough in and of themselves.

it wouldn't have the same feel. for starters, i wouldn't be sitting behind my keyboard freaking out because my LI might get hit too many times in a particular combat scenario (anyone else do that, or is it just me?) at the expense of my greater gameplay experience. and i'd miss the dramatic subplots because for me, it's about the little details about all my companion relationships (friends, rivals and romances alike).

but i don't expect each game to be a clone of the other, so if they're altogether absent, that would be fine. it's the games and the stories that i fall in love or hate with. the magic word is compelling.

it would also be interesting to start out the game with a preset LI (like Aveline and Wesley were. or like some of the Wardens seemed to have.) that way it's not about the typical initial stages of a romance, but a chance to explore what a more mature, longstanding romance would be like in this universe. just a random thought.

besides, i'm so tired of the biophobes on these forums that it would almost be a great STFU to them at this point. let them get their freaking wish...and then be careful about what they wished for.

[Renmiri1]

labargegrrrl wrote...

besides, i'm so tired of the biophobes on these forums that it would almost be a great STFU to them at this point. let them get their freaking wish...and then be careful about what they wished for.

You don't silence bigots by giving them what they want

[daaaav]

Yes it's a minor detail and you do get the 'talimancer' types who get a little obsessive and creepy. But, perhaps I'm a little old fashioned but romance is always part of a good story, from The Odyssey, to a good Hemingway novel and on to Lord of the Rings.

I would miss it if it was missing from a Bioware game.

Modifié par daaaav, 21 septembre 2012 - 11:58 .

[Harle Cerulean]

Of course. I'd just make my own romance up in my head with whoever I liked best. Doesn't mean I don't enjoy having canon romances to play through; romance, despite what some people claim, isn't just fluff; it can be used to add depth to characters and reveal sides they don't necessarily show the world. It can also simply be a satisfying thing to add to your PC's story. No, not every good story needs romance, but if you enjoy romance, it adds to the enjoyment of the story to have it.

[bleetman]

Svanhildr wrote...

I would still play it but would be very sad

[labargegrrrl]

Renmiri1 wrote...

labargegrrrl wrote...

besides, i'm so tired of the biophobes on these forums that it would almost be a great STFU to them at this point. let them get their freaking wish...and then be careful about what they wished for.

You don't silence bigots by giving them what they want

no, but if you force them realize what they want isn't what they want, and that their bigotry harms them in the long run too, they tend to sit up and take notice.  make it personal for them, and they can't just pipe off without thought about the consequences of their own discourse anymore.

[The Elder King]

If the game is awesome, why not. A RPG doesn't need romances to be good, and adding romance content to a RPG doesn't make the RPG surely good.
Still, I think it's a good feature, and I don't see the reason to take it out. And I doubt Bioware will do it.

[daaaav]

hhh89 wrote...

If the game is awesome, why not. A RPG doesn't need romances to be good, and adding romance content to a RPG doesn't make the RPG surely good.
Still, I think it's a good feature, and I don't see the reason to take it out. And I doubt Bioware will do it.

Romance as a gameplay gimmik with approval meters, gifts and gratuitous cutscenes I could do without. Romance as a characterisation and story telling device is an integral part of any character driven story, like a Bioware game.

[TheBlackBaron]

 It might actually be beneficial, if it breaks the obsession the fanbase has with who can bang who. 

I mean, the romances are nice and all, and I welcome their inclusion and will pursue the sidequests because they're fun. But it's worth nothing that some of the greatest RPG's of all time had romances with unorthodox presentations (Planescape: Torment, KotOR 2) or simply dispensed with them entirely (Fallout, Icewind Dale, Baldur's Gate 1, Morrowind and the other, lesser games of the Elder Scrolls).

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 22 septembre 2012 - 12:34 .

[TsaiMeLemoni]

labargegrrrl wrote...

Renmiri1 wrote...

labargegrrrl wrote...

besides, i'm so tired of the biophobes on these forums that it would almost be a great STFU to them at this point. let them get their freaking wish...and then be careful about what they wished for.

You don't silence bigots by giving them what they want

no, but if you force them realize what they want isn't what they want, and that their bigotry harms them in the long run too, they tend to sit up and take notice.  make it personal for them, and they can't just pipe off without thought about the consequences of their own discourse anymore.

I probably missed a lot over the last few pages, but how did this turn into an issue of bigotry?

[NovaBlastMarketing]

  nope there would be absoulte  no chance  .... they would  have about as much  chance of me  playing it  as   there is Bioware trashing the  entire ending  concept of  ME3 ending and starting over  with a return of the jedi style endings

[Shadow Fox]

The fandom will collectivly **** bricks then ****.

[Inquisitor Recon]

DA3 would be better off with no romances.

Actually it should have one romance for all of you who think it is some integral part of the game. Her name? Broodmother.