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#51
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The next one NEEDS to be Shepard, and a sequal. If it isn't and thats how they end Shepards story. Why the hell should I play a new character if they are going to end the stories so damn bad.

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Jupp, Shepard all the way. It's like God of War giving up Kratos, like Super Mario without Mario, like Mc Donalds without Ronald Mc Donald!!!
Who would ever complain about a charismatic protagonist? If you see Shepard you know it's Mass Effect. Plus I can't play another ME game without knowing what happened to the crew... it would feel like that moment in ME2, when you're resurrected by cerberus: "WHERE IS MY ******* CREW?! What happened to them?!".

Everyone who wants to play as someone else (other races?) could wait for a ME mmorpg. That would be a good way for BW to experiment with the franchise, even creating a prequel!

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No. I am tired of shepard and his group of crazy misfits. Let us have someone new people and explore some new concepts. I would like to play as other races and if shep is there, this might hinder any type of progress. I don't give a rip about shepard anymore.

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There will be no "Mass Effect 4". And Shepard's story is over.

Deal with it.

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Seival wrote...

There will be no "Mass Effect 4". And Shepard's story is over.

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Deadlysyns wrote...

theres no Happy Endings in war


The vast majority of stories, tales, books, and movies dealing with great battles would tend to disagree.. Epic tales of heroes and villains usually ended happily, in an attempt to inspire hope in the next generation or promote pride in one's ancestors or hero's deeds.. and last I checked, Mass Effect was a story-based game not a documentary..

In reality (if, god forbid, you want that in your video gaming), history simply paints war in whatever way the writers desire.. The old line "history is written by the victors" is very true even in this day and age.. Plenty of happy endings cover up the horrors of war.. Moreso to protect the people from said horrors than to bury the truth..

That said, I support the Shepard for ME4 campaign.. /vote..

Hold the Line.. For Life..

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Mordanticus wrote...
That said, I support the Shepard for ME4 campaign.. /vote..

Hold the Line.. For Life..


Now where is our official Shepard for ME4 signature banner? Spread the word my children, fear not!

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Without Shepard, it's best to end the MEU and move on. Either make a new sci-fi property or seeing how much they like Deus Ex, make a near future setting game. I just don't see the point if Shepard isn't the protagonist and the stakes aren't as high as they were with the Reaper arc. I don't care to play the FCW, it's been covered in the comics, I don't care to play as an alien after all there is nothing alien about any of the aliens, they are humans with different bodies and faces.

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I'd even take a deformed, paraplegic Destroy ending Shepard, sitting on their deathbed giving one last piece of advice, than the ending we got. If he/she is alive, then don't play around. There's no point to show they're alive if there's no resolution there. I don't care about happy endings. I just don't like being left sitting around with nothing. I don't know. As it is, the story seems better if you die than waste time on getting EMS.

Modifié par StreetMagic, 18 juin 2013 - 09:27 .


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Mass Effect does not revolve around Sheppard's story, the main theme is experiencing different ideas and perspectives in such a rich and diverse setting (in this trilogy the Reapers symbolized the elimination of such things and different perspectives). I'm surprised so many of you think that with out Shepard there is no Mass Effect, as a character he was as deep as a piece of dry wall, he was only good for being an avatar into the world of Mass Effect.
As for the ending, I thought that they could have made history by creating such an existential story to have Shepard die in the run to the beam and that's the end of the story.

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We don't NEED Shep to be in 4 we actually don't need anyone from the past ME series to be in ME4 set the game 2,000 - 50,000 years ahead in the future and no more issue with the ending choices a new hero, a new experience, and new enemies is how it should be I don't want them ruining, retconning, or contriving anyone from the past series to fit a mold of the new universe after you pick your flavor color. If you picked destroy the reapers are gone, if you picked control or synthesis a new enemy comes in and obliterates the reapers in such a huge swift move no one really has much time to do anything and we start the game with our new villains established and the reapers gone. I also don't want a fifth element Shep so he/she can never "die" will always have a machine or someone bring them back to me this would be hell I could never stop fighting the enemy and I'd go insane because I want to be done with it they shouldn't bring Shep in to ME4 or bring him/her or her friends back for it not even for cameos.

Modifié par thehomeworld, 18 juin 2013 - 09:35 .


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Mordanticus wrote...


The vast majority of stories, tales, books, and movies dealing with great battles would tend to disagree.. Epic tales of heroes and villains usually ended happily, in an attempt to inspire hope in the next generation or promote pride in one's ancestors or hero's deeds.. 


So, the Iliad, Beowulf, King Arthur, the battle of Kosovo.... these are all outliers?

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Shepard is not necessary.  They would in fact harm the series by including Shep.

Modifié par xAmilli0n, 18 juin 2013 - 11:56 .


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No Shepard. None of Shepard's crew. No Normandy. No Reapers.

Let the Shepard Trilogy stand on it's own.


BW Montreal shouldn't try to make the next protagonist live up to Shepard. They shouldn't try and make the next antagonist live up to the Reapers.

It's time for a new type of hero, and a completely different type of threat. It's time for a new adventure with a new cast of colorful characters.

I will always be able to come back to Shepard and his crew whenever I feel like it. But I'm looking forward to the future...

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I'm personally okay with how Control and Synthesis end with Shepard dead. What I'm not okay with, however is High EMS Destroy ending leaving you with the breathing scene cliffhanger. I hate that. I wanted at least to see Shepard rise from the rubble and walk in direction of the camera, severely wounded or whatever, but smiling or grinning because there's still hope for him/her. That would be a fitting ending for me and would be a nod to the first game when you survived the crash of Sovereign's remains in the Council Tower.

Modifié par Teddie Sage, 19 juin 2013 - 02:19 .


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AlanC9 wrote...

Mordanticus wrote...


The vast majority of stories, tales, books, and movies dealing with great battles would tend to disagree.. Epic tales of heroes and villains usually ended happily, in an attempt to inspire hope in the next generation or promote pride in one's ancestors or hero's deeds.. 


So, the Iliad, Beowulf, King Arthur, the battle of Kosovo.... these are all outliers?


Safe to say that Mass Effect should stay well away from that territory. 

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Seival wrote...

There will be no "Mass Effect 4". And Shepard's story is over.

Deal with it.


I find that impossible to believe.The ME series sold handsomely, the "cow" will never stopped being milked. There will be another ME game

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Epic777 wrote...

Seival wrote...

There will be no "Mass Effect 4". And Shepard's story is over.

Deal with it.


I find that impossible to believe.The ME series sold handsomely, the "cow" will never stopped being milked. There will be another ME game


Oh there will certainly be another ME game. What he was meant is that it won't be called "ME4". And it won't be a direct continuation of the story. And Shepard won't be in it.

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Mcfly616 wrote...

No Shepard. None of Shepard's crew. No Normandy. No Reapers.

Let the Shepard Trilogy stand on it's own.


I personally agree with this

As much as I want the next mass effect to be another adventure with shepard and crew, it would be better if the next game would have New Protagonist, New Antaganist, New Crew/Squad and New Story.

Like Mcfly616 said "Let the Shepard Trilogy stand on it's own."

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The ending of ME3 was a huge dissapointment.

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KaiserShep wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Mordanticus wrote...

The vast majority of stories, tales, books, and movies dealing with great battles would tend to disagree.. Epic tales of heroes and villains usually ended happily, in an attempt to inspire hope in the next generation or promote pride in one's ancestors or hero's deeds.. 


So, the Iliad, Beowulf, King Arthur, the battle of Kosovo.... these are all outliers?


Safe to say that Mass Effect should stay well away from that territory. 


I suppose we can have that debate if anyone's up for it -- but I was just taking issue with Mordanticus' silly pronouncement.

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I have mixed feelings about the end of Shepard as the protagonsit. I think it's right for the actual game, as in it's time for a new story/character etc...Unfortunately if the next game doesn't sell, then it could be the end of the ME universe, so who do you replace Shepard with ?

This isn't just about a game when these decisions are made. It's about peoples jobs and Bioware as a developer. The wrong move could bite them, and EA.


I'd like a new character and new enviroment as a sequel. I think that's a fair compromise. However i have a feeling that it will be a prequel with a new main chacter, and that will be hmmmm....problematic !

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Tri-logy

Tri as in 3

Mass effect 1, 2 and 3 = 3

so mission accomplished. still don't like the ending but whatever.

Let Shepard go out in history the way you wan'ted 'em to,

So lets make a game in the same universe just with different villans (tho the stuff they are hinting is, more along the lines of we play someone inbetween ME1 and ME3.

Not exactly sure how they are going to pull off an "Important" Character in the ME 1 though 3 time frame but will have to wait and see.

Still think they should reboot the series just no Reapers this time. Tho it may end up more CoD than Mass Effect. Tho if they where to go something like Alpha Protocal, I would be ALL for that.

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AlanC9 wrote...

I suppose we can have that debate if anyone's up for it -- but I was just taking issue with Mordanticus' silly pronouncement.


I don't even remotely see how that statement was silly.. While there are plenty of stories such as the ones you mentioned, my point was that traditionally stories and tales focused on something other than death of the hero or total disaster..

I could easily debate the traditions of oral storytelling and their transition into more modern methods.. or even debate the slow (and somewhat disturbing) move of storytelling to its focus on anti-heroes and disasters.. But that really won't get us anywhere, nor will it change the damn ME3 ending.. So, saying that.. you are of course entitled to your opinion, just as I am to mine..

Hold the Line.. For Life..

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Nightdragon8 wrote...
Still think they should reboot the series just no Reapers this time. Tho it may end up more CoD than Mass Effect. Tho if they where to go something like Alpha Protocal, I would be ALL for that.


I would definitely not want a reboot of the entire franchise. For all the rough edges and rigid mechanics of ME1 that could definitely use improvement, I feel like most if not all of its best points would be lost in translation if BioWare dared to use its resources to go at it again. 

Modifié par KaiserShep, 19 juin 2013 - 06:44 .