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#76
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While I'm not averse to a new protagonist in theory, I would like to see one more game with Shepard and crew, set after the end of ME3.

Despite thoroughly enjoying ME1 and ME2 while playing them, I simply can't bear to touch them now, knowing what lies in store. A decent conclusion to Shepard's story would at least allow me to enjoy the trilogy again, and make me more likely to invest both emotionally and financially in Bioware's future output. After that, then I'd be happy with a new cast of characters for ME5 and onwards.

Modifié par Eryri, 19 juin 2013 - 07:02 .


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Unless I hear rave reviews after ME4 comes out, I don't plan on buying it.

Mass Effect IS Shepard, Shepard IS Mass Effect. You can't create a ME game without him/her.

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Mcfly616 wrote...

No Shepard. None of Shepard's crew. No Normandy. No Reapers.

Let the Shepard Trilogy stand on it's own.


BW Montreal shouldn't try to make the next protagonist live up to Shepard. They shouldn't try and make the next antagonist live up to the Reapers.

It's time for a new type of hero, and a completely different type of threat. It's time for a new adventure with a new cast of colorful characters.

I will always be able to come back to Shepard and his crew whenever I feel like it. But I'm looking forward to the future...


Agreed.  The ME universe is bigger than one person or one crew.  Let's explore it!

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Not using Shepard makes me curious about how strict or loose the new protagonist's creation will be. If the look of the character can be fully customized, I wonder how closely people will attempt to make their new avatar look like the Shepard they used. I sure hope the voice actors we get are on par or better than what we got.

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Mordanticus wrote...

I don't even remotely see how that statement was silly.. While there are plenty of stories such as the ones you mentioned, my point was that traditionally stories and tales focused on something other than death of the hero or total disaster..

I could easily debate the traditions of oral storytelling and their transition into more modern methods.. or even debate the slow (and somewhat disturbing) move of storytelling to its focus on anti-heroes and disasters.. But that really won't get us anywhere, nor will it change the damn ME3 ending.. So, saying that.. you are of course entitled to your opinion, just as I am to mine..


You're entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts. The hero riding off into the sunset or dying peacefully in his bed years after his triumphant victory is a feature of modern storytelling, not ancient.

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I guess it depends on how ME4 does. If it does ok, then Shepard is shelved indefinitely and could only be available in DLC. If ME4 does very poorly, then Shepard will be back in some capacity.

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 i would like shepard to return in ME4 because I have grown attached to his story and he is like a symbol to the mass effect series and i cant picture Mass effect without him. BRING SHEPARD BACK!!!

Modifié par mass effect fan312, 13 juillet 2013 - 07:40 .


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Maybe as a npc, and thats a big maybe.

I personally want to see new characters, places and species. If all ME games revolve around one person and her squad forever the universe stagnates.

Modifié par Armass81, 13 juillet 2013 - 09:47 .


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Shepherd is needed, as an NPC as a guide and mentor. Just like Anderson was to Shepherd. That would how I would like to see Shepherd and the rest of the cast be in the next mass effect (maybe except Grunt, we know how much he loves to fight )

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I'd like to see Shepard in ME4 thats for sure.

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Hell no, no Shepard for ME4. Someone new please.

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I agree, only because it will help forget the terrible story of me3. and give option to the good character interaction and quests of me2. but if they continue with me3 streaming and bad writing i will still pass it by.

Commander shepard can be bioware's master chief, Tomb raider- lara croft.
Or what is bruce wayne to batman.

They can milk this baby r for decades and it will still sell well.

On the point- having another story about shepard doesnt mean they cant do a new story about a new character.
The universe is big enough for countless stories.
each story will only enfoce the other and cheapen production costs.

Modifié par erezike, 13 juillet 2013 - 05:05 .


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romeoblue wrote...

I've never really understood why there was such a need by Bioware to "end Shepard's story". I guess I can see them possibly not wanting to be shackled to one character, but I think for most Shepard IS Mass Effect. It just seems strange trying to continue the Mass Effect universe with another protagonist.


I agree with this. Shepard, his story, his adventures, his team, from Miranda, Garrus, Kaidan, Wrex, Samara, Thane, etc.

That is Mass Effect. 

I've never really understood why wanting to end Shepard's story, especially with the idea that he has to die (in an RPG no less) is so desirable.

That said, I'd be more accepting of a new game if we had an ending where Shepard and co. weren't just arbitrarily cast aside. I'd've liked to have had an ending that was much more fleshed out, with things explained, reunion with the LI if you survived, and a general feeling of finality.

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

romeoblue wrote...

I've never really understood why there was such a need by Bioware to "end Shepard's story". I guess I can see them possibly not wanting to be shackled to one character, but I think for most Shepard IS Mass Effect. It just seems strange trying to continue the Mass Effect universe with another protagonist.


I agree with this. Shepard, his story, his adventures, his team, from Miranda, Garrus, Kaidan, Wrex, Samara, Thane, etc.

That is Mass Effect. 

I've never really understood why wanting to end Shepard's story, especially with the idea that he has to die (in an RPG no less) is so desirable.

That said, I'd be more accepting of a new game if we had an ending where Shepard and co. weren't just arbitrarily cast aside. I'd've liked to have had an ending that was much more fleshed out, with things explained, reunion with the LI if you survived, and a general feeling of finality.


Killing shepard was all about terminating drew legacy and replacing it with walters.

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I don't think Shepard needed to stay around any longer, really. This wasn't one of those stories that revolved around the main character that much. In a sense Shepard was more of a tool through which to experience the stories of the characters and universe around him ...which I know can be said of any main character, but what I'm saying is that it never felt like HIS story as such, not to me anyway.

Anyway, there's a lot more to the MEverse than Shepard. Personally I'm quite happy to play from a different perspective.

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erezike wrote...
Killing shepard was all about terminating drew legacy and replacing it with walters.


If this all came down to some professional rivalry/pissing match, that sucks... Dragging millions of fans into that is major b.s. The story is what should be important. Not one individual's ego.

I don't like Walter's as a lead, but I seriously hope he isn't that bad. I'd prefer that he's simply incompetent.

Modifié par StreetMagic, 13 juillet 2013 - 05:59 .


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Walter would never have made it to where he did he if didnt know how to write.
Writing for a game is a lot harder then writing for a book or a movie, and it also important to know how to work in a team. i think the fact walter and casey wrote the ending by themself just show how bad the teamwork was for the third plot writing.
it shows of bad leadership and lack of ability to handle criticism.

He should continue to write for bioware but not as a lead writer.

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StreetMagic wrote...

If this all came down to some professional rivalry/pissing match, that sucks... Dragging millions of fans into that is major b.s. The story is what should be important. Not one individual's ego.


It didn't, and that assertion is really, really silly.

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dreamgazer wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

If this all came down to some professional rivalry/pissing match, that sucks... Dragging millions of fans into that is major b.s. The story is what should be important. Not one individual's ego.


It didn't, and that assertion is really, really silly.


Mind you, I didn't say it. I'm just replying to the idea, if that wasn't clear.

Like I said, I have an easier time believing in incompetence.

Modifié par StreetMagic, 13 juillet 2013 - 06:10 .


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Give shepard the revan treatment from swtor, and than claim fans don't know what they want with them "bringing shepard back at the fans request."

Also, wrex can serve as the HK equivalent for this analogy.

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dreamgazer wrote...


It didn't, and that assertion is really, really silly.


People are emotional creatures.

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erezike wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...


It didn't, and that assertion is really, really silly.


People are emotional creatures.


Not all.

In fact, I think whoever wrote this ending is devoid of emotion. It's very abstract and dorky. It lacks balls (or quads... or emotions.. whatever you want to call it :whistle:).

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erezike wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...


It didn't, and that assertion is really, really silly.


People are emotional creatures.


And?

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I'd be fine with 'Adventures in ME universe'. I don't need a grand story that could crumble in the end.