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[Emzamination]

thats1evildude wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

thats1evildude wrote...

I'm holding out hope for a Ghast PC.

You want a ghast hat?

No thanks, I have one crammed away in my ghast hole. 

lol'd

[bleetman]

Just let people come up with their own explanations for elves or dwarves caring about what's going on. If they decide it makes sense to them, problem solved.

syllogi wrote...

They're not saying anything yet, but just based on the fact that the hero is going to be fully voiced, it doesn't look good for bringing back playable races.

Just do it like ToR: multiple races that all just use the same voice. It's not a huge issue.

Modifié par bleetman, 21 septembre 2012 - 07:57 .

[Crowlover]

I hope they expand race choices again.

I really want to play an elf now that they have been redesigned in DA2.

Modifié par Crowlover, 21 septembre 2012 - 07:56 .

[Arppis]

...I wouldn't like it any other way.

[syllogi]

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

syllogi wrote...

They're not saying anything yet, but just based on the fact that the hero is going to be fully voiced, it doesn't look good for bringing back playable races.

It's been said time and time again that the voiced protaganist is not why they ditched playable races. 

Well, the last time around, we were told that they wanted to tell the story of a human named Hawke, and that was all there was to it.  This time, according to the marketing survey info, they are telling the story of an Inquisitor.  I'm not quite sure an elf, dwarf, or qunari could be put in that role.

But, even if they were telling the story of a character who is less specific, do you really think that assigning value to resources like multiple voice actors for each gender, separate armor models for each race, and animating cinematics for each race wasn't at all something considered?  They have to know that many fans want a choice of races again.

[Vox Draco]

Well, I do not really care for other races to choose from, I wil lend up with a human in 99% anyway. Yes, I am that boring.

But concerning the plot mage vs. templars and races for the protagonist...well, the easiest way for Bioware to make even dwarves somehow believable as "inquisitors"...would be to actively NOT give the character any know background this time. Make him/her a char that had its memories erased by the inquisition, so he/she will be the "perfect" tool...

The protagonist: An individual chosen because of special talents (leadership, warfare, stealth, magic, etc) and used by the inquisition, and race didn't matter for them...

Though, if they go THAT old and well-trodden path, please somehow give the MC some thoughtful and desperate moments, thinking about what s/he might have been once, who s/he came from etc...like Shepard, who sadly had only one real moment on cerberus base confronted with the fact s/he was actually really dead etc...so much wasted potential by the way...

[bleetman]

Vox Draco wrote...

But concerning the plot mage vs. templars and races for the protagonist...well, the easiest way for Bioware to make even dwarves somehow believable as "inquisitors"...would be to actively NOT give the character any know background this time. Make him/her a char that had its memories erased by the inquisition, so he/she will be the "perfect" tool...

Or, y'know, just never mention what their background and motivations are. Leave it up to the player to decide why they'd care.

[Atakuma]

Probably yes.

[JerHopp]

I hope so! Never cared for playing a dwarf or an elf.

I hope they focus on just a human protagonist, and let them spend their resources entirely on that character.

I don't know how much development time is needed (or how much time is given for DA3), but I am worried that if they focus on more backgrounds, the protagonists will have a more shallow development (instead of just focussing on one).

Less is more...

[Shadow Fox]

syllogi wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

syllogi wrote...

They're not saying anything yet, but just based on the fact that the hero is going to be fully voiced, it doesn't look good for bringing back playable races.

It's been said time and time again that the voiced protaganist is not why they ditched playable races. 

Well, the last time around, we were told that they wanted to tell the story of a human named Hawke, and that was all there was to it.  This time, according to the marketing survey info, they are telling the story of an Inquisitor.  I'm not quite sure an elf, dwarf, or qunari could be put in that role.

But, even if they were telling the story of a character who is less specific, do you really think that assigning value to resources like multiple voice actors for each gender, separate armor models for each race, and animating cinematics for each race wasn't at all something considered?  They have to know that many fans want a choice of races again.

Like others have said they could just use one voice for each gender for all races.

The thing is Hawke's story only makes sense as a human but still has massive plot holes in it if you're a mage and there's nothing to suggest the Inquisiton only recruiets humans they could be similar to the Grey Wardens in that regard.

[Thibax]

I want to be able to create characters as:
Human, Elf, Dwarf, Qunari, Golem, Desire Demon, Darkspawn

and new one races:
Celestial (angel wings, please), Wild (plants, roots and flowers ornaments, please), Sea (yes! an ocean race) and Kitsune (fox ears and tails). Maybe an insect race with butterfly wings too hahahah

[Shadow Fox]

JerHopp wrote...

I hope so! Never cared for playing a dwarf or an elf.

I hope they focus on just a human protagonist, and let them spend their resources entirely on that character.

I don't know how much development time is needed (or how much time is given for DA3), but I am worried that if they focus on more backgrounds, the protagonists will have a more shallow development (instead of just focussing on one).

Less is more...

On the otherhand all that didn't stop Hawke from being a terrible protaganist.*said as someone with a Hawke avy*

[The Night Haunter]

Mr.House wrote...

syllogi wrote...

They're not saying anything yet, but just based on the fact that the hero is going to be fully voiced, it doesn't look good for bringing back playable races.

On the other hand, when they annoucned DA2, the first things they said was we would be playing Hawke, a human. With Inquisition they have been silent on this and one of the most wanted features to return is diffrent races.

Hardly evidence either way since they've been silent about EVERYTHING thus far. Once they give a fleshed out announcement then if they dont say human only I'll believe in this arguement more.

[Shadow Fox]

Thibax wrote...

I want to be able to create characters as:
Human, Elf, Dwarf, Qunari, Golem, Desire Demon, Darkspawn

and new one races:
Celestial (angel wings, please), Wild (plants, roots and flowers ornaments, please), Sea (yes! an ocean race) and Kitsune (fox ears and tails). Maybe an insect race with butterfly wings too hahahah

...I think you're asking a little TOO much there.

[Vox Draco]

bleetman wrote...
Or, y'know, just never mention what their background and motivations are. Leave it up to the player to decide why they'd care.

So the MC is just "there"? And consider s/he is a dwarf, nobody ever mentions that or ask how it came to be? I think that might lead to some "weird" situations and a lot of ignoring on the player's side.

Just imagine this game takes place in real world history, in Europe of the middle ages, and you can actually create an asian character...might be a little odd if everyone just shrugs and says "Yeah, sure, let's go inquisit someone..."

I am all for fantasy on teh player's side and the power of imagination, but I think that RPG-Amnesia might make this a little more "bearable" than just have every character ignoring the dwarven inqusitor...

Just my opinion though, I will hardly be confronted with that problem anyway, as I will stick to humans no matter what..

[llandwynwyn]

The races can share the voice, I won't even care. I just want to play something non human again. :/

[Maclimes]

Vox Draco wrote...

So the MC is just "there"? And consider s/he is a dwarf, nobody ever mentions that or ask how it came to be? I think that might lead to some "weird" situations and a lot of ignoring on the player's side.

See, when a momma dwarf and a daddy dwarf love each other...

Ha, seriously though. Assume, for a moment, that DA:O had started as you and Duncan were entering Ostagar. No origin at all. You are simply a new Grey Warden recruit. No mention is made specifically of your past, other than that you joined the Grey Wardens.

Your race can still be mentioned in conversation ("Hello there, good dwarf!" or "Hello there, good sir!" or whatever). It doesn't need to have a detailed back story pre defined by the game to be a good story.

Ask the baalspawn about that one.

[Kingthlayer]

I'm fully expecting to play as a human only. If it turns out we can play as a Dwarf then I will end up very happy, but if we can't it won't bother me half as much as it did for DA2.

[Shadow Fox]

Vox Draco wrote...

bleetman wrote...
Or, y'know, just never mention what their background and motivations are. Leave it up to the player to decide why they'd care.

So the MC is just "there"? And consider s/he is a dwarf, nobody ever mentions that or ask how it came to be? I think that might lead to some "weird" situations and a lot of ignoring on the player's side.

Just imagine this game takes place in real world history, in Europe of the middle ages, and you can actually create an asian character...might be a little odd if everyone just shrugs and says "Yeah, sure, let's go inquisit someone..."

I am all for fantasy on teh player's side and the power of imagination, but I think that RPG-Amnesia might make this a little more "bearable" than just have every character ignoring the dwarven inqusitor...

Just my opinion though, I will hardly be confronted with that problem anyway, as I will stick to humans no matter what..

Except it doesn't take place in the real world and really it makes sense that no one cares what race you are as the Wardens are known to recruiet anyone that they believe is useful to their cause the Inquisition may be the same.

[Thibax]

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Thibax wrote...

I want to be able to create characters as:
Human, Elf, Dwarf, Qunari, Golem, Desire Demon, Darkspawn

and new one races:
Celestial (angel wings, please), Wild (plants, roots and flowers ornaments, please), Sea (yes! an ocean race) and Kitsune (fox ears and tails). Maybe an insect race with butterfly wings too hahahah

...I think you're asking a little TOO much there.

Hahaha it's not too much ^^
Let's work together.
Union for all! 

[Itsgoodtobe]

Maclimes wrote...

Ask the baalspawn about that one.

Mjaaaaaaaaaaaaah i dont know about that one - well we dont know much when we begin it is true but by the end of the series we know almost every detail about our "origin" we even get to meet our mother in a way in the pocket plane

[Thibax]

I really want a plant race as Sylvari in Guild Wars 2 hahaha
It's so cool. I loved it. With a lot of plants, flowers, poison, healing, roots powers.
We can have a Halla follower too

Modifié par Thibax, 24 septembre 2012 - 12:22 .

[corkey sweet]

it wouldn't bother me at all. i only played human characters in Origins

[AdmiralDavidAnderson]

I'd prefer to have a choice. But I don't mind if it's just human.