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arial wrote...

according to Psychology, when someone ignores something, 10% of the time its because they know they can not argue against it.


What needs to be researched is the amount of people that always reside in this "10%"... You're sure about the numbers, though? 

Modifié par Iconoclaste, 22 septembre 2012 - 03:30 .


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arial wrote...

Shinobu wrote...

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It would be awesome and it is really the only way they could fix this mess. But I don't think EA is willing to put in the extra time and money in to it.


It certainly depends on how well the next ME game does. If it is ME:Synthesis, I predict it will do less well than ME3 did. At that point EA will have to decide whether they pull the plug on the franchise, double down with ME:Synthesis part 2 or give fans a different game that many of us truly want.


Your a moron to think they would make a game for each ending that wouldnt be worth the time or money as it wouldnt make that time and money back well enough


Be polite or be ignored. Your choice.

If Synthesis is the only sequel ever offered, I doubt I will buy it. If ME: Destroy or ME:Successful Refuse is made, I would probably buy them. And I if I liked them I would go back and buy synthesis. Again, they would have to be different games,not just the same game with Geth replaced by friendly Reapers. Give Miranda a big role in Destroy and Tali a big role in Control and people will buy both.

according to Psychology, when someone ignores something, 10% of the time its because they know they can not argue against it.


Like you just ignored my argument? K thx bai! :lol: What about the 90%?

Modifié par Shinobu, 22 septembre 2012 - 03:31 .


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Shinobu wrote...
What I'm suggesting is unethical? :o Again, make an argument or go back to being ignored.


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Iconoclaste wrote...

arial wrote...

according to Psychology, when someone ignores something, 10% of the time its because they know they can not argue against it.


What needs to be researched is the amount of people that always reside in this 10%... You're sure about the numbers, though? 


according to my Roommate, and hes a Phsychology student

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Hopefully, when (if) ME4 comes out some players will have grown up a bit...

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Iconoclaste wrote...

Hopefully, when (if) ME4 comes out some players will have grown up a bit...

we can only hope

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Shinobu wrote...

arial wrote...

Shinobu wrote...

jpraelster93 wrote...

Shinobu wrote...

MissMaster_2 wrote...

It would be awesome and it is really the only way they could fix this mess. But I don't think EA is willing to put in the extra time and money in to it.


It certainly depends on how well the next ME game does. If it is ME:Synthesis, I predict it will do less well than ME3 did. At that point EA will have to decide whether they pull the plug on the franchise, double down with ME:Synthesis part 2 or give fans a different game that many of us truly want.


Your a moron to think they would make a game for each ending that wouldnt be worth the time or money as it wouldnt make that time and money back well enough


Be polite or be ignored. Your choice.

If Synthesis is the only sequel ever offered, I doubt I will buy it. If ME: Destroy or ME:Successful Refuse is made, I would probably buy them. And I if I liked them I would go back and buy synthesis. Again, they would have to be different games,not just the same game with Geth replaced by friendly Reapers. Give Miranda a big role in Destroy and Tali a big role in Control and people will buy both.

according to Psychology, when someone ignores something, 10% of the time its because they know they can not argue against it.


Like you just ignored my argument? K thx bai! :lol: What about the 90%?


you made no argument, you just said "In My Opinion this would be cool". That is not an argument

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arial wrote...

according to my Roommate, and hes a Psychology student

What I meant was : is the 10% applying to everyone, "random dude ignores 10% of occurences", or is it possibly "On X people submitted to test, occurence is 10% of "ignoring", which leaves room to believe that some people always conveniently "ignore". I surely lean towards "some people tend to conveniently ignore more than others".

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Iconoclaste wrote...

arial wrote...

according to my Roommate, and hes a Psychology student

What I meant was : is the 10% applying to everyone, "random dude ignores 10% of occurences", or is it possibly "On X people submitted to test, occurence is 10% of "ignoring", which leaves room to believe that some people always conveniently "ignore". I surely lean towards "some people tend to conveniently ignore more than others".

most likely

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The fact is this is NEVER going to happen because ea wont make 4 games that not everyone will buy

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This is a great idea in a world where money isn't the deciding factor. Since it is, this will never happen.


So why do people believe that 4 games won't make money?

They would not be the same, plotwise
They would not come out in the same year
Thay would have different groups of squadmates

Believing that Synthesis is the most lucrative ending Bioware could offer a sequel to is pretty unrealistic, IMO. Since they can't swap to Destroy at this point, does that mean they should never offer Destroy (a bigger moneymaker than Synthesis)? I think it is unrealistic of Bioware to expect all fans to buy a sequel featuring Synthesis just because that's the only game offered. (If, in fact, this is what's happening.)

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The fact is this is NEVER going to happen because ea wont make 4 games that not everyone will buy

EA and Bioware would probably laugh their guts out behind closed doors upon reading such a suggestion... ;)

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They are not going to make a game for each ending, but I don't think anyone is stupid for suggesting it either. If it is a sequel featuring Shep, they will have to retcon the endings with some "hint" DLC or an expansion. Which, wouldn't be that bad if they found the right way to do it. I happen to like the PT, but I don't even care if at this point they use the IT. Just get it done. If it is a prequel or some stupid MMO garbage, I don't care anyways because I wont be playing it. Have fun with your COD groupies BW.
P.S. they tend to be a bit more fickle than your current (remaining) fan base.

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Shinobu wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

This is a great idea in a world where money isn't the deciding factor. Since it is, this will never happen.


So why do people believe that 4 games won't make money?

They would not be the same, plotwise
They would not come out in the same year
Thay would have different groups of squadmates

Believing that Synthesis is the most lucrative ending Bioware could offer a sequel to is pretty unrealistic, IMO. Since they can't swap to Destroy at this point, does that mean they should never offer Destroy (a bigger moneymaker than Synthesis)? I think it is unrealistic of Bioware to expect all fans to buy a sequel featuring Synthesis just because that's the only game offered. (If, in fact, this is what's happening.)


you seem to think this is such a great Idea (which it isn't)

So tell us, if this is such a great Idea, explain why its not common practice in the Video Game Industry?

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jpraelster93 wrote...

The fact is this is NEVER going to happen because ea wont make 4 games that not everyone will buy


True, they would probably stop after one failed sequel. Unfortunately for them, they may have hit on the least popular ending to try to carry the franchise.

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What about Krogan, Quarians, Geth... they even exist anymore?

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arial wrote...

Shinobu wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

This is a great idea in a world where money isn't the deciding factor. Since it is, this will never happen.


So why do people believe that 4 games won't make money?

They would not be the same, plotwise
They would not come out in the same year
Thay would have different groups of squadmates

Believing that Synthesis is the most lucrative ending Bioware could offer a sequel to is pretty unrealistic, IMO. Since they can't swap to Destroy at this point, does that mean they should never offer Destroy (a bigger moneymaker than Synthesis)? I think it is unrealistic of Bioware to expect all fans to buy a sequel featuring Synthesis just because that's the only game offered. (If, in fact, this is what's happening.)


you seem to think this is such a great Idea (which it isn't)

So tell us, if this is such a great Idea, explain why its not common practice in the Video Game Industry?


Carrying choices from one game to the next isn't common practice in the Video Games industry. This is part of what makes Mass Effect unique. Unfortunately this also puts the devs in a bind, because sequels either have to amalgamate all possible outcomes into a bland mishmash, choose a canon ending, or try something different. I think they should go the different route, because choosing Synthesis as THE canon ending is not going to be popular, and smooshing all of the endings into a vague brown blob where choices really make no difference is going to be even less so.

Modifié par Shinobu, 22 septembre 2012 - 11:14 .


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YES

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Debi-Tage wrote...

They are not going to make a game for each ending, but I don't think anyone is stupid for suggesting it either. If it is a sequel featuring Shep, they will have to retcon the endings with some "hint" DLC or an expansion. Which, wouldn't be that bad if they found the right way to do it. I happen to like the PT, but I don't even care if at this point they use the IT. Just get it done. If it is a prequel or some stupid MMO garbage, I don't care anyways because I wont be playing it. Have fun with your COD groupies BW.
P.S. they tend to be a bit more fickle than your current (remaining) fan base.


Going by the polls, Bioware should make Destroy or Successful Refuse. If they've already committed to Synthesis as I believe, they should stop with the Synthesis storyline after one game and switch to a different outcome that will make them more money.

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im gonna say no.

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ShepnTali wrote...

What about Krogan, Quarians, Geth... they even exist anymore?


Exactly. This is why one sequel fits all can't work.

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All non-refusing endings would likely be canon. They're probably going to find a way to combine all three concepts so that way the gameplay doesn't drastically change.


Just like Deus Ex: Invisible War.

I'm sure the merging of endings from the previous game isn't one of the reasons why DE:IW was complete garbage. At all.


Never played it so I wouldn't know.

If ME4 is a sequel it will likely be thousands of years in the future. That's enough time for things to revert back to normal.  

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Shinobu wrote...

Debi-Tage wrote...

They are not going to make a game for each ending, but I don't think anyone is stupid for suggesting it either. If it is a sequel featuring Shep, they will have to retcon the endings with some "hint" DLC or an expansion. Which, wouldn't be that bad if they found the right way to do it. I happen to like the PT, but I don't even care if at this point they use the IT. Just get it done. If it is a prequel or some stupid MMO garbage, I don't care anyways because I wont be playing it. Have fun with your COD groupies BW.
P.S. they tend to be a bit more fickle than your current (remaining) fan base.


Going by the polls, Bioware should make Destroy or Successful Refuse. If they've already committed to Synthesis as I believe, they should stop with the Synthesis storyline after one game and switch to a different outcome that will make them more money.

say you just bought a New car. then you see another car for sale, with just a different color and design. Would you buy that second car as well? unlikely

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This isn't Daggerfall.

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Conniving_Eagle wrote...

This isn't Daggerfall.


Not yet.....