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[Jamie9]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

This isn't Daggerfall.

But you can see if from here.

[MegaSovereign]

I've been banned like 3 times by 3 different mods.

I honestly have you people to blame for being such bad influences.

[D24O]

MegaSovereign wrote...

I've been banned like 3 times by 3 different mods.

I honestly have you people to blame for being such bad influences.

Np.

[Shinobu]

arial wrote...

Shinobu wrote...

Debi-Tage wrote...

They are not going to make a game for each ending, but I don't think anyone is stupid for suggesting it either. If it is a sequel featuring Shep, they will have to retcon the endings with some "hint" DLC or an expansion. Which, wouldn't be that bad if they found the right way to do it. I happen to like the PT, but I don't even care if at this point they use the IT. Just get it done. If it is a prequel or some stupid MMO garbage, I don't care anyways because I wont be playing it. Have fun with your COD groupies BW.
P.S. they tend to be a bit more fickle than your current (remaining) fan base.

Going by the polls, Bioware should make Destroy or Successful Refuse. If they've already committed to Synthesis as I believe, they should stop with the Synthesis storyline after one game and switch to a different outcome that will make them more money.

say you just bought a New car. then you see another car for sale, with just a different color and design. Would you buy that second car as well? unlikely

I have already said that the games could not be cosmetic reskins of the same game. That would not sell. Also, they would not come out at the same time.

Example:
2013: Synthesis -- Protagonist: Shepard mobile platform 9, Squadmates: EDI, Tali, Wrex, Jack, 2 others, Plot: stop the Leviathans

2015: Destroy -- Protagonist: Shepard, Squadmates: Garrus, Samara, Miranda, VS, 2 others, Plot: survive in postapocalyptic dark age and destroy the last remnants of Cerberus

I don't think your analogy is apt, but I'll play along. So, If I had a car I didn't really like (Synthesis), and after a few years I was offered a car I did like (Refuse), I would buy it. If I was offered New and improved Synthesis II, I wouldn't buy it. Where the analogy breaks down is that if I were offered Synthesis alone, I wouldn't buy it, but if I were offered Refuse later and enjoyed it, I might actually go back and buy Synthesis.

[Shinobu]

Goodnight, I'll check back tomorrow.

Modifié par Shinobu, 22 septembre 2012 - 04:29 .

[Deadlysyns]

Worst idea in business in history will never happen i think you want Bioware to go Bankrupt with ideas like these

[SpamBot2000]

A cunning plot to ruin EA, OP.... but will they fall for it?

[fchopin]

I only want one ending, the destroy ending.

If they make an ME4 with another ending or a prequel then no more Mass Effect for me.

[Leozilla]

arial wrote...

it would divide the profits to much.

as everyone would only buy the title of their fav ending.

Heres a little math to show you why it will not work.

You spend $200 Dollars developing a product, and sell it to 4 people for $100 each. thats $200 profit!

Now, you spend $200 on four separate products (which equals $800), and each product only sells to one of those people. that is a $400 loss. and Losses make people lose jobs.



Of course, this post will be ignored like all my arguments...

I see where you are coming from however, being a peerson that has picked two of the endings so far, I know if the first game was done good I would buy the next three as long as they all were good quailty.

It would also be a very unique thing to do story wise, plus that would garuntee 4 games with 4 distinct stories, and I know that if Bioware doesn't f-up the first most people would buy the others.

[Reorte]

Deadlysyns wrote...

Worst idea in business in history will never happen i think you want Bioware to go Bankrupt with ideas like these

Bad ideas didn't stop them with ME3.

[Shinobu]

fchopin wrote...

I only want one ending, the destroy ending.

If they make an ME4 with another ending or a prequel then no more Mass Effect for me.

Many people feel this way. I predict preorders for ME4 will be few if Synthesis is widely known to be the jumping-off point.

[Shinobu]

Leozilla wrote...

arial wrote...

it would divide the profits to much.

as everyone would only buy the title of their fav ending.

Heres a little math to show you why it will not work.

You spend $200 Dollars developing a product, and sell it to 4 people for $100 each. thats $200 profit!

Now, you spend $200 on four separate products (which equals $800), and each product only sells to one of those people. that is a $400 loss. and Losses make people lose jobs.



Of course, this post will be ignored like all my arguments...

I see where you are coming from however, being a person that has picked two of the endings so far, I know if the first game was done good I would buy the next three as long as they all were good quailty.

It would also be a very unique thing to do story wise, plus that would guarantee 4 games with 4 distinct stories, and I know that if Bioware doesn't f-up the first most people would buy the others.

arial, you're right, people will be predisposed to buy the ending they like. And most people don't like Synthesis. You are assuming that all of the Synthesis-haters will buy ME4:Synthesis if they have no other option. I don't think they will.

There are many people who are stating their intent NOT to buy more ME DLC or games until the ending of ME3 is resolved in a way they would like, i.e., successful refuse or reunion Destroy. Either they are accurately predicting their own behavior, in which case Synthesis will sell badly, and the only way for Bioware to get good sales is to make the following game Destroy-based, OR they will return to their Bioware-loving ways and buy any new ME game, in which case they would probably also buy ME:Destroy. So there's no downside to making the game following ME4 into a separate game with a different starting point. Are you seriously going to argue that a large portion of the fanbase would boycot an AU Destroy game because they'd prefer Synthesis part 2?

Making the next 3 or 4 ME games oneshots rather than a continuous trilogy frees the writers from having to account for why things are the way they are at the beginning of the game and also frees them from having to make endings that are importable into the next game. This is what Casey Hudson promised for ME3 -- unlimited possibilities because the consequences would not have to be playable in a sequel.

I'm with Leozilla. If I can have 4 different games with ACTUAL different outcomes that aren't constrained by the writers worrying about how to continue the story, and they are of high quality, I will buy them. Remember Mike Gamble saying "if you knew what we had in store, you'd keep your savegames forever"? Four different games over the course of the next decade might make me do that.

Now I'm off to shoot Cerberus mooks in the head.

[N7 Assass1n]

This entire basis goes against the entire concept of "CANON". Flawed logic OP.

[Ghost]

NO. Dead Reapers is how we win this.

[AlanC9]

So the Synthesis timeline gets a game two years from now and is then abandoned . Destroy timeline gets a game four years from now and is then abandoned. Control timeline gets a game six years from now?

This might work for the tiny handful of us who want to play n all those universes.

[Shinobu]

N7 Assass1n wrote...

This entire basis goes against the entire concept of "CANON". Flawed logic OP.

No, "canon" refers to "officially sanctioned," not a "singular outcome." So anything put out by Bioware is, by definition, "canon" even if some of it takes place in alternate realities.

from Wikipedia

[Shinobu]

AlanC9 wrote...

So the Synthesis timeline gets a game two years from now and is then abandoned . Destroy timeline gets a game four years from now and is then abandoned. Control timeline gets a game six years from now?

This might work for the tiny handful of us who want to play n all those universes.

Yes, it's true that the timeline might cause flagging interest, although that didn't seem to be the case for Diablo 3, which was put out 12 years after Diablo 2. I'm sure hard core IT supporters would still buy ME:IT a decade from now.   In any case, each successive game would probably be billed as "the perfect starting point for new fans" and since there would be no carryover between them it would be more accurate than saying that for ME3 was.

I suppose the real question comes down to: If ME:Synthesis is a direct sequel (set immediately after ME3) would fans prefer a series of games based on Synthesis with no option of other endings ever, or would they prefer the possibility of ME:Destroy, ME:Control, ME: IT, or ME:Successful Refuse being made instead? If Synthesis were not the current chosen ending, which ending would you want a direct sequel based on, and why shouldn't you get it?

[Mathias]

Do you understand what a development nightmare something like this would be? 4 games, at the same time? Where on Earth would someone ever get the funding and support for something like that? It would be a monumental task that no company would be stupid enough to try. Maybe something like this could've been accomplished back in the 8 - 16 bit era, when games didn't take nearly as long to make. But by today's technological standards you would need a MASSIVE team with MASSIVE funding.

[Shinobu]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Do you understand what a development nightmare something like this would be? 4 games, at the same time? Where on Earth would someone ever get the funding and support for something like that? It would be a monumental task that no company would be stupid enough to try. Maybe something like this could've been accomplished back in the 8 - 16 bit era, when games didn't take nearly as long to make. But by today's technological standards you would need a MASSIVE team with MASSIVE funding.

You misunderstand. The 4 games would come out successively with a normal development cycle in between. 2 years->Synthesis-> 2 years-> Destroy-> 2 years-> Control, etc.

[shepskisaac]

Shinobu wrote...

IIRC, at the very beginning of the endings uproar a post from someone at Bioware appeared saying "we're so sorry you feel this way but we've already started ME4 and it features Synthesis." (Anybody have a screencap?) The post lasted a few hours and then was removed.

No one has a screen shot because no such post ever existed. There were hundreds of thousands people sitting on BSN 24/7 at that time, such thing would never get 'lost'

[CaIIisto]

Given that the movie will focus on the first story in the trilogy, it's fairly safe to assume that if successful adaptations of ME2 and ME3 will follow.

It will be interesting to see what they do about the ending of ME3 - they're going to have to canonize something at that point.

[dorktainian]

I can understand making a movie bout ME1, hell I can understand making a movie bout ME2, but ME3?



You'd need a writer of epicness to pull that off. Know any?

[CaIIisto]

dorktainian wrote...

You'd need a writer of epicness to pull that off. Know any?

Well that's the trick isn't it.

Really don't want to end up with some sort of BS Matrix-esque ending. 

Best thing they could do is just forget the ME3 ending as happened in the game and make their own. Might turn out to be sh*t too, but any chance of a decent ending is better than none....