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[St3v3H]

The Quarian Female Engineer is a great class, its alot of fun to play and I'm pretty effective with her. Yes she does need a good weapon to dish out damage but I like her powers. I have fun playing with her on Gold when I'm not getting kicked ;P

I think all the classes/characters are decent enough to be played effectively on Gold with a little bit of training. I think the question here comes down to: Can you play with the class/character or not.

Modifié par St3v3H, 24 septembre 2012 - 09:26 .

[Tzarakiel]

Rifneno wrote...

Tzarakiel wrote...

Hey OP. Your title is wrong. It's supposed to be kit/character for single characters. class is the name of a group of characters of similar abilities like engineers, sentinels and adepts.

Hey perfectionist.  Your grammar is wrong.  You're is a contraction meaning "you are" and your is a possessive pronoun.

Thanks! I'm a fan of constructive advice, so please continue to correct my mistakes.

Modifié par Tzarakiel, 24 septembre 2012 - 09:42 .

[GazzaDaPizza]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

N7 Paladin. Not because it's bad, but because I'm awful with it.

This. Exactly this.

[BouncyFrag]

In general infiltrators annoy me. I once had a match on rio with 3 infiltrators where I was pretty much in aggro hell having most of the baddies heading straight to me and no one else. They are a great class and before the headshot nerf on bosses they were absolutely lethal. I'm also a really bad infiltrator so my bitterness is all of my own making. It's still fun complain every now and then.

[oO Stryfe Oo]

Yep, had the same thing happen to me on a PUG platinum match. Infiltrators own Platinum.

[TommyNg]

Human enginneer and adept. FQE. They are the worst not Batarian ,he has good health at least not die easily , dell guard can be good in good hand especially if have grenade capacity V

[yago2k]

oO Stryfe Oo wrote...

DJCS wrote...

TouchedByYou wrote...

For instance, an N7 Shadow using a sniper, just..no.

I cringe, every time I see that.

...Why? I understand if you're not good with it, but don't assume the same for everyone else. Black widow on a Shadow with adrenaline mod 3 is insane. It's like playing as a nemesis/phantom crossbreed. Maybe you're just not a good enough shot, is all.

Being good enough has nothing to do with that. And no, BW on a Shadow with Adrenaline is not insane, is retarded. It may be cool and flashy, but you are not playing to the class nor weapons strengths, in fact you are going against them. I'm a very good sniper and I too cringe anytime I see an N7 shadow with a SR. If you want to shoot things, any other Infiltrator will work better. Salarian has ED to stun and remove shields plus Proxy Mine. QI has Tac Scan and Arch Grenades,  the Geth Hunter has Proxy Mine and Hunter Mode, coupled with a penetrating weapon he's a more than adequate sniper. Even the humble HI has better synergies, at least he can slow people with Cryo and throw 'nades while cloaked.

Shadow? All his poweres are geared for CQC and she's really dependant on having low cooldowns. In adition, she is the Infiltrator best suited to get Duration  and the Cast a power and remaing cloaked evolutions of Cloak, meaning she's more likely to lose the extra damage... so making her carry a heavy SR that penalices her cooldowns  makes sense how exactly?

Can it work with a SR? Sure. Anything can work in this game if you are good enough.  Equipping her with an Eagle, 0 points in Shadow Strike  and refusing to cloak during an entire match may work too, but that doesn't mean you aren't actively handicapping yourself. Is it really effective if you are a crack shooter? No, not really. You could be contributing much more with another character or another weapon.

Modifié par yago2k, 24 septembre 2012 - 10:01 .

[Bail_Darilar]

Human Vanguard M/F, and Phoenix Adept

[Frozen Mind]

From characters I've played - Vorcha Sentinel... That special power that interrupts shooting is really annoying me.

Characters I haven't played and don't plan to:
- N7 Shadow (assassin on wave mode like on a front line? Does he eliminate officers? Or more like bosses? Because from what I see he eliminates himself on Gold and I get revival medal),
- N7 Slayer (nothing special. I think he has a problem with triggering biotic explosions),
- N7 Paladin (his special power: shield that lasts too short and disallow movement... Reminds me Stasis from ME1),
- Drell Adept/Vanguard (too low health for me - I don't like to take cover),
- Batarian Sentinel/Solider (nothing special for me + lack of agility),

[BlackbirdSR-71C]

Female Quarian Engineer.

Also known as: "How do I balanced Sentry turret?"

[Grumpy Old Wizard]

Human adept: Singularity sucks. Shockwave is only good on small maps with narrow corridors and is limited to a mere 16 meters on a squishy human adept

Phoenix adept: Singularity  sucks. Smash now sucks and is limited to a mere 8 meters on a squishy adept.

Batarian sentinel: Submission net is a subpar stasis.  Shockwave is only good on small maps with narrow corridors. Submission net is better than it used to be but could use more improvement.

You'll note all threee classes have a subpar stasis power and all three have a "shockwave" type power.

[neon skink]

Vorcha, I dislike almost everything about them - their color options, their voices, their animations, their powers......

no thank you.

[SavagelyEpic]

DullahansXMark wrote...

Geth Infiltrator.

There, I said it. Someone had to.

Omg

After I discovered the killing potential of the gethfiltrator that's all I used for like all of three days.

And then I was like, "wtf am I doing?" and then I slapped myself and retired him. Haven't used him since.

[d_nought]

Drell Vanguard. He is the worst at being bad.

[Reizo Ryuu]

polymphus wrote...

DarklighterFreak wrote...

Slayer. Everything he does, the Shadow does it better.

APEX KING19 wrote...

My personal least favourite character. Is the n7 slayer. Its health and shields are just awful. I get downed well to frequent for my liking with it. So i give it a wide berth. But in all honesty aside from the krogan i dont like any vanguards.

 
WhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAT. You trollin' son. If you aint trollin', I don't know what to say. 

Phase disruptor is to nova as the harrier is to the avenger and nova was good to begin with. If phase disruptor isn't the best power in the game, it comes close. Anything that lets you AoE stunlock phantoms. on. platinum. is more than worth your time. 

e: slayer is perhaps the only class where I say "awesome, a group of phantoms!" 

Indeed, Charge specced for radius +  Phase disruptor just makes groups of anything cry; slayer is easily my favourite class.

[Chealec]

I used to think the BatSent was bad before I knew better; bugged radius evolution in Shockwave seemed to mean that I could never trigger Tech Bursts - so I just assumed, at the time, that Shockwave couldn't trigger Tech Bursts and stopped using the class.

... I now know better ... and with a Wraith VIII he's actually fairly badass.


So now, I'd say the classes I dislike most are either of the Phoenixes (I just find them completely 'meh') and the Demolisher, I don't like being that reliant on grenades; even when I can carry 12 of them and regenerate new grenades every 14 seconds or so - I still prefer the QME.

[Star fury]

Frozen Mind wrote...
From characters I've played - Vorcha Sentinel... That special power that interrupts shooting is really annoying me.

LOL.

Frozen Mind wrote...
Characters I haven't played and don't plan to:
- N7 Shadow (assassin on wave mode like on a front line? Does he eliminate officers? Or more like bosses? Because from what I see he eliminates himself on Gold and I get revival medal),
- N7 Paladin (his special power: shield that lasts too short and disallow movement... Reminds me Stasis from ME1),
- Drell Adept/Vanguard (too low health for me - I don't like to take cover),
- Batarian Sentinel/Solider (nothing special for me + lack of agility),

LOL. This is a bunch of the most powerful characters in the game, except Bat Sent and DV.

[Pedactor]

I wouldn't say any are terrible, but here's my personal ratings:

Batarians, Vorchas, Krogan Soldier: It's not that they are bad, persay, but they are all optimal at the exact same thing: Weapon Based CQC shotgunners that are eclipsed by the Krogan Sentinel, Destroyer, and Krogan Vanguard. They all can be staggered, which limits their usage for me on Platinum due to Geth and can't really be played inside of cover without being crappier Destroyers. A big issue for me is that Inferno grenades don't stagger and are more of a support mechanism than a tool for killing since its a DoT, their aiming isn't like other grenades, and their usefulness above Gold is countered by the quickness by which Barriers and Shields regenerate. They also don't stagger. This is an issue for the Batarian Soldier and Krogan Soldier.

The Vorcha can't function without the "feature" propping them up (Reegar/Flamer) and doing it any other way means you aren't really that powerful unless you are landing killing blows. Cluster Grenades and Carnage are both pretty terrible, as well. Clusters as a stand-alone I mean. They tend to fly wherever they want and bounce everywhere. Great as a multi-target biotic Detonator on the DA, but awful as a pure damage grenade compared to even frags or stickies (stickies are overpowered). Lift on the Krogan Sentinel are such a better way to go versus either.

The best of this lot is the Batarian Sentinel because at least Sub net works in conjunction with scoring headshots and slowing bosses to a crawl.

Don't get me wrong, Ballistic Blades is awesome, but I'd rather go CQC with a GI, TS, or, again, the Krogan Sentinel and not care about my recharge time at all while doing the same if not more heavy melee damage with a purely damage reduction specced Tech Armor and also having the emergency stagger of armor detonation.

Drell Vanguard: Reave is far more useful than Biotic Charge. Pull is a pretty awful primer. The reward isn't worth the risk. And I'm in love with the 3 points in fitness Asari Vanguard, who self primes, CC's, and has, overall, possibly the highest damage potential in the game.

Phoenix classes, N7 Shadow, N7 Slayer (Biotic Slash specced): Guess why? Because it's far too effective to spam Slashes and Smash. Even with the CD nerf. BioWare, suggestion:

Electric Slash, Biotic Slash, and Smash get damage increases but only become active after Biotic Charge or Shadow Strike and get 80% or so DR during the animation frames.

Take Smash from the Phoenix Adept and give him either a grenade power or Reave. The Lash/Smash combo kinda sucks.

Also I never use the Female Quarian Engineer.  Cryo Blast is worthless.

Modifié par Pedactor, 24 septembre 2012 - 07:58 .

[oO Stryfe Oo]

yago2k wrote...

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Wow, wasn't expecting such a long reply. The Shadow is female...and anyway, l never said I don't get in close quarters. She has a sword; I make good use of it both it and her powers. I just happen to have a sniper rifle. Stop assuming stuff. I read your post a couple tiimes and you're either assuming quite a bit about me, or venting becasue of some bad experience you experience with the setup.

Calling someone retarded is a little uncalled for, but your point is more a matter of preference. The way I use her, the cooldown is negligible. I just shoot two or three headshots in the time it takes for a power to recharge. A second of power recharge is nothing noticeable. As you said, "anything can work in this game if you are good enough". I've played with other shadows. They use pistols, headshot mods, shadow strike, and electric slash. So far, only one has done better than me scorewise, and that was my first platinum run (spent most of the game shishkebabbed by Banshees). I'd say that's contributing. Look, I'm rolling with what works best for me. Just because you or someone else can't pull it off doesn't make it "cringe-worthy".

***Also, I find the adrenaline mod fun and Platinum/Gold-viable on her. You should try it yourself sometime, instead of telling me how best to play. Just looked at your manifest, too. Just...I feel like I've been playing longer than you have, is all I'm saying.

Modifié par oO Stryfe Oo, 24 septembre 2012 - 05:41 .

[Beelzebubs]

Ben Gadura wrote...

The female quarian engineer. Completely useless and irrelevant, there's nothing this class can do better than other classes.

You don't know how to play her, I go pretty offensive with her and use the turret as such. Instances where the enemy is behind cover which you can't shoot through, toss the turret over it with rocket upgrade. If you need to make an escape use the turret to provide covering fire. It's also a good distraction near spawns.

Also, there's nothing like throwing it over to one side of the map to get kills/assist whilst you go the other side and wreak havoc on your own.

If the cryo bug was fixed, it would go from a good class, to an amazing class.

Modifié par Beelzebubs, 24 septembre 2012 - 05:37 .

[CitizenThom]

DatFeel wrote...

First things first, I'd like to say that any class can do good on any difficulty, and this is obviously subjected to opinon, and could just be a case of "doing it wrong". Anyhow, without further ado.

Batarian Sentinel: Submission Net is nothing more than a poor mans Statis, I don't care if it does damage or slows targets, neither appear to be very significant in the grand scheme of things. Shockwave I think is probably the worst power in the game (definately on pc becaue of the radius bug), and although the concept of Blade Armor is cool, it's really overrated, and I feel that way about most "tanky" talent trees in general.
What do you guys think?

 

Spec your shockwave for +65% biotic detonations, and team up with biotics or a mixed tech/biotic team. Batarian Sentinel is one of the better farm/camping classes, and it's also a pretty good team player for biotic explosions AND tech bursts. (I build it 3-6-6-6-5, I imagine 4-6-6-6-4 might work better) Use a Revenant or a Cryo Falcon, and Batarian Sentinel can pull their weight on Gold. I've only farmed with Batarian Sentinel on Platinum, I haven't tried an U/U/P with it yet.

[Zero132132]

Yeah, all the FQE hate is weird. If I had a higher level Wraith and Scorpion, I'd use those, since Wraith is still good damage, but as-is, I throw a Claymore on her, use the turret to distract enemies, and use Cryo Blast + Claymore to deal a lot of damage in a short time. I rarely use incinerate, but it's nice to do it to apply some DoT damage so that that Atlas's shields don't restore while it focusses on your turret and you revive your fallen teammate.

[N-Seven]

I'm seeing him listed a lot here...but I really like the N7 Paladin actually. 

He's very mobile, has a combat roll, decent health, shields, and survivability with energy drain.  Snap freeze and cryo shield is a great debuff.

Don't plant the shield ever really, use it offensively.  His light melee is super fast, has a wide arc and does huge damage and force.  It's the best light melee attack in the game, imho.

[FullMetalArthur]

Homey C-Dawg wrote...

Phoenix adept seems pretty useless to me.

I remember speced the phoenix Adept 3 times looking for a right combo of skills/weapon And I managed to found it more useful without lash. It's a weaker versión of pull that sometimes doesn't kill enemies. But you must play it as a close range adept. It requieres a weapon heavier than a pistol, probly a rifle and know how to time it with singularity. I finished 1st on many ocasion, but definetely it's another kind of gameplay than other adepts.

[CmnDwnWrkn]

Medicate wrote...

Human Engenieer. can't make any use out of the drone or overload (except Geth). plus i neve liked incineration anyways. simply a huge lack of damage

If you can't get any use out of Overload, then it's not the character that's the problem.

Modifié par CmnDwnWrkn, 24 septembre 2012 - 06:56 .