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[Grizzly46]

Fandango9641 wrote...

Grizzly46 wrote...

Fandango9641 wrote...

I think Origins and DA2 did friendship really well, though I do share the concern that the romantic demands of some here will be catered to in a way that could easily see characterisation suffer. I also agree with The Ethereal Writer Redux in that I would love to see an explicitly gay party member in Inquisition.

Well, there are always characters that you do become more friends with than others - an unromanced Garrus, Alistair or Varric for example. All of them provide the PC with some buddy terms - and in the case of Garrus and Alistair, they are excellent choices for a straight male protagonist to just share a beer and hang out with.

I'm not so sure about a explicitly gay person in DA3 however - we had two in ME3 (Traynor and Cortez, one each) but I see two problems with this: First of all it feels forced ('I know you are just here to cater to the gay community'), and secondly it felt odd to watch myself in ME3 around Cortez so I wouldn't set off his gaydar, which in turn led to me treating him tougher than a non-gay male party member.

If we need to have this, I would actually prefer bisexual characters, but first and foremost, I agree with OP in that friendship and cameraderie is much more important for a story to evolve - espcieally if the story will be of a more military nature.

Yeah, it's a tricky one for sure, but how would you feel about non romanable party members hooking up in the manner of Joker and EDI? Indeed, I support the idea of non romancable party members more generally and would like to see a little more of that in Inquisition (I think the strength of Varric and Aveline's characterisation in DA2 for example had a lot to do with them not being romantic 'bait' for Hawke).

First of all, spot on regarding Varric and Aveline - I totally agree there.

It would depend on the setting when it comes to other people hooking up. in a military setting like onboard the Normandy, my personal POV is that all relationships should be kept professional - including the CO (Shepard that is).
In a more informal setting, I wouldn't mind people doing that - I might be the one calling the shots about where to go, who to see, and what to kill, but to extend that to who might be cuddling with who? No, I don't care then - me bossing around should not extend to their bedrolls.
 
Toning down the romances for more buddy settings would be very, very appreciated.

[nightscrawl]

--- SPOILER for novel The Stolen Throne, and uh... Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows ---

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

nightscrawl wrote...

Uh... did you read The Stolen Throne? If you have, I really don't see how you can take what is in that book and still make that statement, so you'll have to elaborate.

I only know the barebones plot details, but I have not read the book in full form as I do not own it.
 
And even if it's actual love instead of brotherly love, DAO gives no indication that this is so and really Loghain just comes off as a true friend to Maric.

You misunderstand the reason for my question, but I was purposely vague.

In The Stolen Throne Loghain has got it bad for Rowan, Maric's betrothed (sister to Teagan and Eamon). Like really, super, major in love. They even have sex in the Deep Roads. Loghain and Rowan basically determined that even though they want to be together, it would be better for Maric, and Ferelden by proxy, if she went ahead and married him. I don't recall if Maric ever figured it out, but he was such a wreck after what happens with Katriel that he might not have cared to think about it. I think the last 1/4 of the novel concerning all of that was the most intense, emotionally.

The book could have the subtitle The Study of Loghain.

To be honest, I'm not sure what is more shocking. The fact that he allowed his best friend's son to be killed or the son of his love. Because I could easily have seen it developing into a sort of Snape/Harry situation, where Snape protects Harry only because he is Lily's son, and he loved her. I think his intense hatred of Orlais (reasons for which are also given in the novel, going far beyond mere patriotism) eventually blocked out everything else, as far as he's concerned.

[nightscrawl]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

...what if my character IS in it for the sex?

I mean... just saying. If we're accomodating different roleplaying styles and personalities, being able to play a manipulative ****** would be something that falls within that scope.

There is this too, which is certainly valid.

Also, it seems that some of you are forgetting the rival relationships that DA2 had. Fenris is... not communicative. But for Anders, it's very much of a love/hate thing. Anders is extreme about everything. For a rival relationship, he is "against everything Hawke stands for" (because here the game assumes anti-mage), but he can NOT get Hawke out of his mind. To be honest, I think rival Anders confuses lust and passion with love in his own mind.

The only fault I find with that is that to me it seems far-fetched that a relationship with a rival Anders would last for any significant length of time, certainly not four years (this is taking the three years gap and adding the play time of Acts 2 and 3). Within the time frame of DAO makes much more sense to me, but not for DA2.

Maria Caliban wrote...

Dragon Age: Origins had a few important assumed straight people, Anora and Prince Blondie, and some possibly straight people in the form of Loghain and Behlen. Harrowmont isn't given a sexuality, head circle guy isn't given a sexuality. I don't recall if the elven clan leader had a wife or children who were murdered by the werewolves.

In general, important NPCs don't have defined sexualities. We only know the straight ones because marriage/children are important to nobility.

Harrowmont is married. But as you say, marriage is important to nobility.

This discussion is starting to become a bit silly. Speculating about the sexuality of major NPCs in Thedas seems a bit crass.

Modifié par nightscrawl, 26 septembre 2012 - 10:29 .