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[Spartanburger]

I don't see what the big deal is. I'm running on a $500 machine and I can run BF3 at ultra (no AA) at 1920x1080 just fine with a min/max/avg of 26/83/45.

That's easily playable, and it's on ultra.

My Laptop (which cost the same amount, but is a humongous pile of Krogan dung now) can manage BF3 at around medium.

Seriously, the price of a laptop that is as powerful as an xbox in gaming is less than $500 now. A laptop.

You only have to worry about performance if you want to run it at the absolute maximum settings, and even then frostbite 2 is an incredibly optimized engine for what it can push, especially in comparison to the fidelity competitor cryengine (though in CE3's defense, it is far more optimized than CE2 and it is also very capable in visual fidelity).

I can almost guarantee that it will run fine on your machines. You know why? If I turn everything up to the maximum settings, I get around 10-20 more fps on BF3 than I do on a maxed DA2.

Plus, remember that no matter what your computer is, the game will always have to run on consoles. If you can run DA2 fine, you should have no reason to worry about DA3 unless it's on next-gen hardware (PS4, xbox720).

I don't want to start a hardware war, but that's the simple truth. As long as it has to run on consoles you can practically guarantee that it will run on any PC that can run today's games. Besides, I like it that way. Saves me money and forces developers into getting the most out of hardware by optimizing code rather than just slamming the best they can into the game without any attempt at cleaning it up so that it runs well on anything less than dual GTX690s w/ i7 3960k and 64gb 2133mhz RAM.

tl;dr, As long as you can run the current generation of games you are fine for running DA3.

fake edit: Unless the developers are doing something special for the PC users (which I doubt). And even then, it's not like they're taking low settings out of the game, they're just raising the potential fidelity.

[Icinix]

lol

Where do people come up with this crap?

[Tommyspa]

naughty99 wrote...

Tommyspa wrote...

naughty99 wrote...

Tommyspa wrote...

LOL, glad I'm not a PC gamer by trade, I suppose. Though games such as Watch Dogs look quite beautiful on console despite outdated tech, I will be sore however if DA3 is next gen exclusive though.

You think they will make a port for current gen consoles?

I imagine by the time it is released, most AAA releases will be next gen titles, no?

Honestly? I Really really really hope DA3 straddles consoles or is this gen and not next considering late 2013 is flirting with release date or not release date for next gen. I would eventually buy a ps4 or xbox 720, You know at about 200-400 bucks years down the road, unless they are at that price out the gate, in which case, my perspective changes, And as much as I rely on gaming as a means to express not only myself as much as DA means to me as a fan(boy), a means to pass time and conversation with friends,  I would be conflicted to buy a next gen version (cheap gamer syndrome). Because I don't see them being less than 500 bucks out of the gate.

Do you know if publishers released titles for both old and new gen hardware for a while around the time of the last console update to the PS3 and 360, or did they just suddenly stop releasing titles for the older consoles?
I'm not very familiar with recent consoles, as unfortunately the last one I owned only had 8 bits 

Using PS2 to 360/wii I saw games like Bully (and others) being ported over with great next gen versions. And more historically Tony Hawk games straddled consoles (PS1/N64/PS2) as well. But BioWare isn't a developer who has a history of doing this, but they were BioWare Corp back then not BioWare EA. So, I really have no idea at all.

Modifié par Tommyspa, 23 septembre 2012 - 05:23 .

[naughty99]

Spartanburger wrote...
If you can run DA2 fine, you should have no reason to worry about DA3 unless it's on next-gen hardware (PS4, xbox720).

That's the question, will DA3 be a next-gen console release or not?

If it is, I wonder about my laptop's performance, as I've never tried BF3 but heard it is rather demanding. Hopefully I will get a new laptop by late 2013, but it would be nice to know.

Modifié par naughty99, 23 septembre 2012 - 05:01 .

[Spartanburger]

naughty99 wrote...

That's the question, will DA3 be a next-gen console release or not.

I've long stopped listening to rumors about when the next gen of consoles were going to be released. If they were true we would have gotten new hardware years ago.

That said, I am remaining rather neutral on the subject. I want to see what the new stuff can do as I was impressed when the current gen came out, and I still am impressed to day by what developers can push out of what is essentially an office computer with a $40 graphics card.

Now, if I were to look at it from a business perspective, making DA3 a next-gen exclusive (and PC) would probably not be a very good decision as the line will only have just come out and there won't be many hardware platforms in consumer homes for people to have the ability to run it, resulting in low (ish) sales. I don't know for sure, but even though having it NG exclusive might draw more people into the new hardware, I doubt it would sell nearly as much if it sold on both NG and current gen systems. If a next-gen hardware line is coming out soon, then in all likelihood it will come out both on next and current gen. Have it available on as many systems as possible, maybe with some exclusive stuff on the NG systems to push people to buy the new ones, and the number of people who can run it is very high.

Now, assuming that is the case, that would mean that PC users wouldn't have to worry too much as it would still have to at least run on the current gen of hardware. Even so, if it was exclusively NG, it wouldn't remove much of the low end settings. The upper end of fidelity settings would be pushed further than the lower end would shrink.

As it stands right now, DA2 might just be the hardest game for me to run on highest settings and native 1080 resolution, even over Crysis 1 &2 and Battlehoog 3. And DA2 doesn't even look all that good, especially in comparison to the three games mentioned. In short, I'm excited to see what the developers make of the new engine. They have the potential to destroy PCs if they want, but in doing so they would (knowingly) cut out a portion of customers, and that's simply bad for business.

Of course, this is just my own speculation. We won't know for sure until we actually start seeing something.

[Blackrising]

Spartanburger wrote...

naughty99 wrote...

That's the question, will DA3 be a next-gen console release or not.

I've long stopped listening to rumors about when the next gen of consoles were going to be released. If they were true we would have gotten new hardware years ago.

That said, I am remaining rather neutral on the subject. I want to see what the new stuff can do as I was impressed when the current gen came out, and I still am impressed to day by what developers can push out of what is essentially an office computer with a $40 graphics card.

Now, if I were to look at it from a business perspective, making DA3 a next-gen exclusive (and PC) would probably not be a very good decision as the line will only have just come out and there won't be many hardware platforms in consumer homes for people to have the ability to run it, resulting in low (ish) sales. I don't know for sure, but even though having it NG exclusive might draw more people into the new hardware, I doubt it would sell nearly as much if it sold on both NG and current gen systems. If a next-gen hardware line is coming out soon, then in all likelihood it will come out both on next and current gen. Have it available on as many systems as possible, maybe with some exclusive stuff on the NG systems to push people to buy the new ones, and the number of people who can run it is very high.

Now, assuming that is the case, that would mean that PC users wouldn't have to worry too much as it would still have to at least run on the current gen of hardware. Even so, if it was exclusively NG, it wouldn't remove much of the low end settings. The upper end of fidelity settings would be pushed further than the lower end would shrink.

As it stands right now, DA2 might just be the hardest game for me to run on highest settings and native 1080 resolution, even over Crysis 1 &2 and Battlehoog 3. And DA2 doesn't even look all that good, especially in comparison to the three games mentioned. In short, I'm excited to see what the developers make of the new engine. They have the potential to destroy PCs if they want, but in doing so they would (knowingly) cut out a portion of customers, and that's simply bad for business.

Of course, this is just my own speculation. We won't know for sure until we actually start seeing something.

You know, you're right. If DA 3 turned out to be exclusively for next gen consoles and comes out at around the same time as these consoles, I imagine that would result in pretty low sales, especially pre-orders.
Because really, who pre-orders a game they don't have the right console for?

[Spartanburger]

Blackrising wrote...

You know, you're right. If DA 3 turned out to be exclusively for next gen consoles and comes out at around the same time as these consoles, I imagine that would result in pretty low sales, especially pre-orders.
Because really, who pre-orders a game they don't have the right console for?

Well, there is potential for it to work.

Imagine for a moment that Halo 4, Mass Effect 4, Dragon Age 3, Assassins Creed 3, Gears of Halo Effect IV.2 Theft Auto: Metal of Dutyfieldsys and all the other highly-anticipated games are all next generation launch titles or NG titles that release around launch.

With a situation like that I could see the NG hardware sales skyrocketing up. And the NG hardware could always be bundled with certain games.

But, the liklihood of that happening (a long lineup of highly-anticipated exclusive titles for NG launch) is rather slim, as most of the AAA games are coming out on current gen systems anyway.

[AtreiyaN7]

What is this silliness? I can play Skyrim on ultra on my current gaming laptop (two mobility HD 6970s). And BF3 ran fine on my older gaming laptop with two mobility HD 5870s. I'm so not worried. *yawn*

[naughty99]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

What is this silliness? I can play Skyrim on ultra on my current gaming laptop (two mobility HD 6970s). And BF3 ran fine on my older gaming laptop with two mobility HD 5870s. I'm so not worried. *yawn*

Dual 5870m cards are pretty damn powerful, a couple of years ago that was probably one of the fastest gaming laptops on the market. My current laptop has a single 5830m card, and it is fast enough to run Skyrim, ME3 and DA2 at 1080p with most settings maxed, but these are not very demanding games and perhaps a next gen title might not run so well.

Unfortunately, I can't upgrade to a laptop with dual graphics cards, as they are generally too bulky and I need something relatively thin and portable - hoping to get something with a 660m or something similar next year.

Modifié par naughty99, 23 septembre 2012 - 05:39 .

[slimgrin]

Fasty1 wrote...

Man the same engine that power Bf3 is now used in a game with bigger enviroment and scenery. Bioware better do some serious optimizations for the game or there will be some serious lag. 

I will eat my shorts if Bioware makes levels anywhere near as big as BF3. I have a 3 yr old computer and I can run BF3 with 40 fps, which is pretty impressive for a cutting edge engine.

[RaenImrahl]

There is an existing thread discussing Frostbite 2 pinned to the top of this forum. Please use it.

Also, let's avoid all the console vs. PC crap.

Locked.