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[Pedrak]

Is this thread still going? Seriously people.

Considering that the game is 1,5 year away, that we know nearly nothing about it and that very little of what we say here (if anything) at the moment will make any difference, I don't find this thread any more pointless than dozens of others.

[SafetyShattered]

Pedrak wrote...

Is this thread still going? Seriously people.

Considering that the game is 1,5 year away, that we know nearly nothing about it and that very little of what we say here (if anything) at the moment will make any difference, I don't find this thread any more pointless than dozens of others.

This.

[NRieh]

I'm perfectly fine with ME1 scenes - those were staged well and angles did not show you any "forbidden" parts. But..you need to work at those, you know. ME1 had only 3 of them, if you remember it well, and 2 of them were actually same (mshep+Ash and femShep+Alenko).

DAO was....not bad for a fantasy dysney toon. But romantic (not to mention erotic)?..Nope. Those leather bras and pants and overall animation...well, it was not good, actually. I'm not talking about any extra mods here.

Some of ME2 were also staged nice, though aliens could not have anythng but "fade to black" (due to plain engine restriction - there is no such thing as "naked Garrus" model.

ME3 was ridiculous. Because - underwear, mentioned many times and UGLIEST arms, hands and male chest models. You got angles, you got blankets - but it's easyer to use underwear, yeah..

DA2 did not even try naked scenes. Which is, probably, for good. No ugly model animations, no seeing Default Human Male body model for Anders. They'd hardly show me anything I can't imagine myself (and probably my version of events would still be better).

I'm more concerned about emotional and sensual part, to be honest. Because most of ME3 scenes were like "oh we'll die - let's bang, ok?". ME1 and DA2 had a hint of something deeper.

If written and staged properly - the only motion of a hand may affect you more than all the naked-butt-and-boobs Liara scenes. Damn it, remember ME1 "almost kiss" locker scene! That was one of the hottest moments all over series! Remember ME1 sex scene intro - where you see companion standing REALLY CLOSE... That's what i'd love to see - not more "realism". Impressionism is a rigth word to use, I guess. Impress us, BW.

And those who need more "real" stuff - go switch TV to a special channel, or browse some sites. Videogames are not supposed to be dating porn-sim.

[Ridwan]

Well I didn't find the Witcher 2 some sort of masterpiece as it often gets touted. It bored me pretty fast, and I haven't even completed the first part of the game yet, I'm at some sort of church right now after having defeated some nobles son or whatever and helped some king get his castle back.

With Mario, it's turn on play, have fun, timing on difficult levels, mastering the jumps and finding secrets, coin and when you got guests, you can either hand the controller to them or if you got the New Super Mario Bros. Wii you can play with them and have fun. Hell you can even make a drinking game out of Mario. For me a real video, if I had to use that word, is about two things. Fun and mechanics. Mario got them both.

Now before anyone comes with the usual BS argument "Go back and play COD" or something similar like that, why would I be on this forum if I didn't care for rpgs? I love them, I just find it incredible childish that people cry for sex and full front nudity scenes in a video game, when it would probably mean less sales and cheesy semi censored porn scenes.

Do we really need to see Ograak the dwarf stick his pee in Elgir the elf's mouth? Yes I know, you probably don't mean that explicit. But it just seems incredible juvenile.

[Alan Rickman]

It is quite sad that TW2 is being reduced to just "that game with the boobies".

[hangmans tree]

Shadowfang12 wrote...

Captain McBuck wrote...

xxBabyMonkeyxx wrote...

You know, there are kids under 17 who play DA and other rated M games. Do you honestly think it's a good idea to show them sex scenes like that? I'm going to go with "no". I like how BioWare did it in DA2, we got the point and it wasn't too revealing. And for the record, you're part of the reason why hardly anyone outside the gaming community takes gamers seriously. Hmm...I wonder how long it will take for this to get locked?

It says "M" on the box. If parents are buying games for there under-17 year olds then they are stupid. Games are rated what they are for a reason or there is no point in having a ratings system, A parent should not give there son or daughter an NC-17 Movie so why whould they give them an M rated game?

Saying "But kids would play it!" is a bullsh*t excuse.

Mass Effect 1 did fine with nudity, DA Origins did fine with it, Heavy Rain did fine with it.

Amen. I'm not a fan of The Witcher 2 sex scenes in DA3, but that's only because I don't feel like it would fit in the Dragon Age universe. The excuse that kids under 17 are going to play it is stupid. There's a freaking M on the box! And if you turn the little case over you see why it was given that rating! It literally takes like 5 seconds to do. If you don't want your kids to play a game with nudity don't buy them a game that says nudity on the back of the case! It's as simple as that. If parents don't do that then that's their problem, not the game developers.

The real problem is most developers, Bioware included, and publishers WANT the kids to buy their game. Its a big fraction of buyers/gamers. M for mature is just a trap. You think the game will have mature content but it has not. Its a scam. Idont feel like BW games are made to appeal to my generation (story/RPG mode), it should say 'for gamers 18 of age and nearest vicinity'... rounded down.

[Renmiri1]

I'm perfectly fine with fade to black scenes like DA2 had. As people said above, want pr0n ? go watch something on pay per view or go surf the web, it is full of it.

I like romance in a game because of the emotional closeness that connects my PC with her / his LI, not because I need to see some awkward 3D puppet scenes. There is absolutely no need for more 3D e-boobs and e-peen. I have a fertile imagination, fade to black is perfectly fine.

[SafetyShattered]

M25105 wrote...

Well I didn't find the Witcher 2 some sort of masterpiece as it often gets touted. It bored me pretty fast, and I haven't even completed the first part of the game yet, I'm at some sort of church right now after having defeated some nobles son or whatever and helped some king get his castle back.

With Mario, it's turn on play, have fun, timing on difficult levels, mastering the jumps and finding secrets, coin and when you got guests, you can either hand the controller to them or if you got the New Super Mario Bros. Wii you can play with them and have fun. Hell you can even make a drinking game out of Mario. For me a real video, if I had to use that word, is about two things. Fun and mechanics. Mario got them both.

Now before anyone comes with the usual BS argument "Go back and play COD" or something similar like that, why would I be on this forum if I didn't care for rpgs? I love them, I just find it incredible childish that people cry for sex and full front nudity scenes in a video game, when it would probably mean less sales and cheesy semi censored porn scenes.

Do we really need to see Ograak the dwarf stick his pee in Elgir the elf's mouth? Yes I know, you probably don't mean that explicit. But it just seems incredible juvenile.

I respect your opinion, and I agree that The Witcher 2 is not a the best game ever. But I feel the exact same way about Super Mario Bros. I like it, but I don't think it's the masterpiece that people make it out to be. I like it, for a while at least, but then I get bored. So lets just agree to disagree?

[Darth Death]

I'm seeing a lot double standards going on around this thread.

[Blooddrunk1004]

JobacNoor wrote...

It is quite sad that TW2 is being reduced to just "that game with the boobies".

"That game with the boobies" has better story, character development and consequences of your choices then any other RPG i have played through the last couple of years. Aside from that i rather have some boobies in the sex scene rather then recieving "gota catch em all" cards from every chick you banged in TW1.

[SafetyShattered]

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

JobacNoor wrote...

It is quite sad that TW2 is being reduced to just "that game with the boobies".

"That game with the boobies" has better story, character development and consequences of your choices then any other RPG i have played through the last couple of years. Aside from that i rather have some boobies in the sex scene rather then recieving "gota catch em all" cards from every chick you banged in TW1.

I agree. It drives me crazy that whenever people think of The Witcher 2 they think of boobs. It handles character development and consequences of youe choices in a way that rivals Bioware imho. Not the best game ever, but definately 100 times better then games like COD. 

[Blackrising]

So, I decided to watch the Witcher 2 sex scene with Triss(?) on youtube to get a better grasp of what exactly the OP is asking here.

And...no. Just no. That was intensly embarrassing to watch. All that over the top moaning was plain awkward and making the models fit in the right way so it looks natural is, apparently, impossible.
Scenes like in ME 1? Perfectly fine. Fade to black? Also perfectly fine. Just please no ridiculous humping and moaning.

Modifié par Blackrising, 23 septembre 2012 - 09:19 .

[Merchant2006]

BOOBIESBOOBIESBOOBIESBOOBIES

[challenger18]

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

JobacNoor wrote...

It is quite sad that TW2 is being reduced to just "that game with the boobies".

"That game with the boobies" has better story, character development and consequences of your choices then any other RPG i have played through the last couple of years. Aside from that i rather have some boobies in the sex scene rather then recieving "gota catch em all" cards from every chick you banged in TW1.

What character development?

[The Hierophant]

Blackrising wrote...

So, I decided to watch the Witcher 2 sex scene with Triss(?) on youtube to get a better grasp of what exactly the OP is asking here.

And...no. Just no. That was intensly embarrassing to watch. All that over the top moaning was plain awkward and making the models fit in the right way so it looks natural is, apparently, impossible.
Scenes like in ME 1? Perfectly fine. Fade to black? Also perfectly fine. Just please no ridiculous humping and moaning.

If you knew Geralt you would know it comes naturally

[slimgrin]

Nothing like a Bioware release to bring these two fan bases together.

[The Hierophant]

slimgrin wrote...

Nothing like a Bioware release to bring these two fan bases together.

At least people are not claiming that DA has superior characters or an overarching story.

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

It never looks good and trying is a waste of time.
The more explicit it is, the more likely it is to be offputting because 1) uncanny valley 2) personal taste differs from what is presented.

Modifié par Pseudocognition, 23 septembre 2012 - 09:33 .

[Atakuma]

The Hierophant wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Nothing like a Bioware release to bring these two fan bases together.

At least people are not claiming that DA has superior characters or an overarching story.

DA has superior characters.

[SafetyShattered]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

M25105 wrote...

Well I didn't find the Witcher 2 some sort of masterpiece as it often gets touted. It bored me pretty fast, and I haven't even completed the first part of the game yet, I'm at some sort of church right now after having defeated some nobles son or whatever and helped some king get his castle back.
 

So you're judging the game after playing only around an hour of it?

I thought the exact same thing. That's like deciding you hate a movie and you've only seen the intro credits. It's impossible to make a decision that early!

[wsandista]

Darth Death wrote...

I'm seeing a lot double standards going on around this thread.

It is the BSN isn't it?

Shadowfang12 wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

M25105 wrote...

Well I didn't find the Witcher 2 some sort of masterpiece as it often gets touted. It bored me pretty fast, and I haven't even completed the first part of the game yet, I'm at some sort of church right now after having defeated some nobles son or whatever and helped some king get his castle back.
 

So you're judging the game after playing only around an hour of it?

I thought the exact same thing. That's like deciding you hate a movie and you've only seen the intro credits. It's impossible to make a decision that early!

Yeah. Unfortunately, arguments like this happen all of the time. You would be surprised how many who bash TW2 even though they haven't played it. Not that I don't think some people go on a bit too much about TW2, but give the game it's due. It is an excellent game.

Modifié par wsandista, 23 septembre 2012 - 09:45 .

[The Hierophant]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Nothing like a Bioware release to bring these two fan bases together.

At least people are not claiming that DA has superior characters or an overarching story.

DA has superior characters.

I'd say the quality of DA characters is more varied. I can't think of any Witcher characters I like more than Morrigan or Varric, but by the same token, there aren't any that annoy me like Sebastian does.

I'm alluding to the impending s***storm causing comment that will eventually derail this thread into a fandom war between Pokemon, and Digimon.

Modifié par The Hierophant, 23 septembre 2012 - 09:48 .

[SirGladiator]

TW2's love scenes were pretty good, but they tended to be a bit on the extreme side, the one with Triss was clearly the best but other than that one it tended to be a bit over the top. However, the fully clothed love scenes in DA2 were way too far the other way. Something in between, something similar to ME1, perhaps a little bit more on the TW2 side of that, seems like the best way to go. It was actually pretty shocking to see a game like TW2 rated exactly the same as DA2, when clearly DA2 is like a Disney cartoon compared to TW2. I think the bottom line when it comes to love scenes and nudity in general (which doesnt even have to involve a love scene, of course), is relevance and tastefulness. And most importantly of all, just like in TW2, the nudity must never, ever, ever, involve a dude .