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[megamacka]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

I just don't like the mentality some people have regarding sex in games.

Nudity = mature.
No nudity = it sucks!

I respectfully disagree.

This + IT'S OVER 9000!!!

[joshko]

I wonder how many people would complain that DA 3 is a TW2 copycat if they did this...

[wsandista]

M25105 wrote...

Enough to know it's boring. Cue "Go back and play COD"

Please actually finish a game if you are going to deride it.

[Ridwan]

wsandista wrote...

M25105 wrote...

Enough to know it's boring. Cue "Go back and play COD"

Please actually finish a game if you are going to deride it.

Why? If you don't enjoy something, why keep doing it? It's not work and I'm not getting anything out of it other than boredom.

[joshko]

wsandista wrote...

M25105 wrote...

Enough to know it's boring. Cue "Go back and play COD"

Please actually finish a game if you are going to deride it.

In his defense the beginging of TW2 is the hump you have to get over before the game shines.
It does raise the question though; how can he speak on authority about parts of a game he never got to? With out knowing the circumstances that brought the characters there and the development of the characters' relationships prior to that momenet?
Very curious...

[Todd23]

Brazzers style romance scenes!

[wsandista]

M25105 wrote...

wsandista wrote...

M25105 wrote...

Enough to know it's boring. Cue "Go back and play COD"

Please actually finish a game if you are going to deride it.

Why? If you don't enjoy something, why keep doing it? It's not work and I'm not getting anything out of it other than boredom.

So you actually know what you are complaining about. If I hadn't finished the trainwreck that was DA2, I couldn't legitimately complain about how bad the combat was or how the dialogue system took control of the PC away from me.

Just as you can't comment on how relationships in TW2 work, since you haven't actually experienced it.

[The Hierophant]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

I just don't like the mentality some people have regarding sex in games.

Nudity = mature.
No nudity = it sucks!

I respectfully disagree.

It'd would be better for romances to be minimal/subtle. The resources used in making romance scenes, and voicing the dialogue could be used for increased dialogue options in the main quest.

[hoorayforicecream]

joshko wrote...

wsandista wrote...

M25105 wrote...

Enough to know it's boring. Cue "Go back and play COD"

Please actually finish a game if you are going to deride it.

In his defense the beginging of TW2 is the hump you have to get over before the game shines.
It does raise the question though; how can he speak on authority about parts of a game he never got to? With out knowing the circumstances that brought the characters there and the development of the characters' relationships prior to that momenet?
Very curious...

I have finished the game. There is no development, because there can't be. Geralt is an amnesiac, but he's destined to be with Lady Not-Appearing-In-This-Game. Triss is in love with him, but their relationship can never advance, because the source material says that it doesn't. So all you get in the game is a snapshot of this friends-with-benefits holding pattern relationship, and that's it because that's all there can be. You can't go past that, and you can't not do it either. There's no choice involved. You can choose whether Geralt has sex with her in act 1, but beyond that, nothing you choose makes any difference. Triss survives and stays with Geralt, regardless of whether the player chooses to rescue her, because the canon has said it to be so.

You might argue that finding out the details about the snapshot is interesting, but I don't find it particularly engaging.

[Ridwan]

wsandista wrote...

M25105 wrote...

wsandista wrote...

M25105 wrote...

Enough to know it's boring. Cue "Go back and play COD"

Please actually finish a game if you are going to deride it.

Why? If you don't enjoy something, why keep doing it? It's not work and I'm not getting anything out of it other than boredom.

So you actually know what you are complaining about. If I hadn't finished the trainwreck that was DA2, I couldn't legitimately complain about how bad the combat was or how the dialogue system took control of the PC away from me.

Just as you can't comment on how relationships in TW2 work, since you haven't actually experienced it.

Yes, you could. If you thought DA 2 was mindnumbingly boring, then it wasn't a good game, cause it failed to capture your attention and instead felt like a chore or whatever.

And I didn't actually make any comment on the relationships in the witcher 2 , what I did was asking what you wanted out of Dragon Age 3. Which is it seems already knowing the woman beforehand and skip all the talk and just hump her when the chance is there. In other words, removing what the other Dragon Age games have done, namely getting to know a stranger, building up, closing in and scoring at the end.

[wsandista]

M25105 wrote...

Yes, you could. If you thought DA 2 was mindnumbingly boring, then it wasn't a good game, cause it failed to capture your attention and instead felt like a chore or whatever.

I couldn't go into detail of why it wasn't a good game though. Just like you can't with TW2, because you haven't actually played more than the prologue.

[mousestalker]

hoorayforicecream wrote...

I have finished the game. There is no development, because there can't be. Geralt is an amnesiac, but he's destined to be with Lady Not-Appearing-In-This-Game. Triss is in love with him, but their relationship can never advance, because the source material says that it doesn't. So all you get in the game is a snapshot of this friends-with-benefits holding pattern relationship, and that's it because that's all there can be. You can't go past that, and you can't not do it either. There's no choice involved. You can choose whether Geralt has sex with her in act 1, but beyond that, nothing you choose makes any difference. Triss survives and stays with Geralt, regardless of whether the player chooses to rescue her, because the canon has said it to be so.

You might argue that finding out the details about the snapshot is interesting, but I don't find it particularly engaging.

On a related point, if the characters do not develop in any appreciable fashion, then game isn't really mature no matter how many naughty bits it may reveal.

[Maria Caliban]

M25105 wrote...


Amount of time spent on killing darkspawn is hours, amount of watching two characters having sex, less than 15 seconds. Big difference. One is essential to the game, cause it's fun and makes you feel like a boss, the other just feels like it was thrown in to satisfy a small crowd.

Except the hours and hours of mindless combat isn't fun. It's a grind you get through so you can get to actual content. Do you not understand why BioWare is including the super-easy story modes into their game?

[Ridwan]

wsandista wrote...

M25105 wrote...

Yes, you could. If you thought DA 2 was mindnumbingly boring, then it wasn't a good game, cause it failed to capture your attention and instead felt like a chore or whatever.

I couldn't go into detail of why it wasn't a good game though. Just like you can't with TW2, because you haven't actually played more than the prologue.

Again, why should I waste my time when I've already given it an hour. A good game captures you almost immediately or within the first 10 minutes.

Hell Mario is fun right from the start, Fallout throws you out of the vault immediately, Mass Effect 2 you wake up under attack and immediately get a feel for the game and the action.

If you want to spend hours on a game that doesn't capture you, then that's on you. I see it as nothing but a waste of time.

[Currently Stoned]

to be fair I'd rather have witcher 2 sex scenes than the one we get in bioware games. that said I would be happy if it just faded to black rather than watch them awkwardly dry humping in their underclothes. It's unrealistic which makes it immersion breaking. these 'romance scenes' are superfluous to the romance option as what is most appealing about an LI is character development that differs from their standard development and holds diferent consequences. A good example of this being the ritual at the end of origins which was affected dynamically by whether you'd romanced Morrigan or not.

[Ridwan]

Maria Caliban wrote...

M25105 wrote...


Amount of time spent on killing darkspawn is hours, amount of watching two characters having sex, less than 15 seconds. Big difference. One is essential to the game, cause it's fun and makes you feel like a boss, the other just feels like it was thrown in to satisfy a small crowd.

Except the hours and hours of mindless combat isn't fun. It's a grind you get through so you can get to actual content. Do you not understand why BioWare is including the super-easy story modes into their game?

To appeal to the latter crowd I mentioned earlier.

[Sundance31us]

If I wanted Witcher styled anything I would play Witcher.

[wsandista]

M25105 wrote...

Again, why should I waste my time when I've already given it an hour. A good game captures you almost immediately or within the first 10 minutes.

Then don't. Just don't go screaming that the game sucks when you haven't actually played more than %10 of it.

[mousestalker]

M25105 wrote...


Amount of time spent on killing darkspawn is hours, amount of watching two characters having sex, less than 15 seconds. Big difference. One is essential to the game, cause it's fun and makes you feel like a boss, the other just feels like it was thrown in to satisfy a small crowd.

Emphasis added


Why do you say it's a small crowd? Whether or not you meant it as such, it comes across as rather derogatory.

FWIW, I'm one of those that prefer the story to the fighting. Character development is critical to me, pixel sex is not. One of the many complaints about DA2 was the overemphasis on combat as compared to the plot emphasis of DA2.

[wsandista]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Except the hours and hours of mindless combat isn't fun. It's a grind you get through so you can get to actual content. Do you not understand why BioWare is including the super-easy story modes into their game?

I thought that the gameplay was always the best part of the story. Without gameplay, most (recent)Bioware games would be a poor to meh animated movie.

Modifié par wsandista, 24 septembre 2012 - 03:28 .

[Ridwan]

wsandista wrote...

M25105 wrote...

Again, why should I waste my time when I've already given it an hour. A good game captures you almost immediately or within the first 10 minutes.

Then don't. Just don't go screaming that the game sucks when you haven't actually played more than %10 of it.

I never said it sucked I just called it boring and I never brought up Witcher 2 either except in a responce where someone said "The Witcher 2 is a real game" which I thought was BS and then expanded on why I thought it was boring.

Modifié par M25105, 24 septembre 2012 - 03:31 .

[joshko]

hoorayforicecream wrote...

joshko wrote...

wsandista wrote...

M25105 wrote...

Enough to know it's boring. Cue "Go back and play COD"

Please actually finish a game if you are going to deride it.

In his defense the beginging of TW2 is the hump you have to get over before the game shines.
It does raise the question though; how can he speak on authority about parts of a game he never got to? With out knowing the circumstances that brought the characters there and the development of the characters' relationships prior to that momenet?
Very curious...

I have finished the game. There is no development, because there can't be. Geralt is an amnesiac, but he's destined to be with Lady Not-Appearing-In-This-Game. Triss is in love with him, but their relationship can never advance, because the source material says that it doesn't. So all you get in the game is a snapshot of this friends-with-benefits holding pattern relationship, and that's it because that's all there can be. You can't go past that, and you can't not do it either. There's no choice involved. You can choose whether Geralt has sex with her in act 1, but beyond that, nothing you choose makes any difference. Triss survives and stays with Geralt, regardless of whether the player chooses to rescue her, because the canon has said it to be so.

You might argue that finding out the details about the snapshot is interesting, but I don't find it particularly engaging.

I respectfuly disagree. The fact that he is amnesiac gives him that choice. Sure his past self was in a warped sort of love affair with Yennifer, but she is no longer part of his life. Is it possible for him to have developed stronger emotional ties to Triss before he regained his memories? I think so. Naturally it's all speculation at this point but I suspect TW devs will give the player that choice.

Of course to get the full picture of Geralt and Triss' relationship one must look back to TW1. In TW1 we can see why he might develop stronger feelings for Triss, but we can also see why he would reject her.

Also, Geralt is a character struggling with nihilism. If he were to succumb to it then he would have no reason not to screw both women and leave them with broken hearts.

On topic:  Maybe we should not ask Bioware to make a copycat game and create a good, unique, and origional game that meets the quality of TW games. If they feel that these scenes will add to it so be it. If not? I promise we will all survive the event.

[wsandista]

M25105 wrote...

wsandista wrote...

M25105 wrote...

Again, why should I waste my time when I've already given it an hour. A good game captures you almost immediately or within the first 10 minutes.

Then don't. Just don't go screaming that the game sucks when you haven't actually played more than %10 of it.

I never said it sucked I just called it boring and I never brought up Witcher 2 either except in a responce where someone said "The Witcher 2 is a real game" which I thought was BS.

How do you know that? Like you have stated, you haven't played much of TW2,so you don't actually know what you are talking about.

[wsandista]

joshko wrote...

On topic:  Maybe we should not ask Bioware to make a copycat game and create a good, unique, and origional game that meets the quality of TW games. If they feel that these scenes will add to it so be it. If not? I promise we will all survive the event.

They already have. It is called Dragon Age: Origins.

And TW wasn't very good, TW2 is what most people on here admire.

[Ridwan]

wsandista wrote...

M25105 wrote...

wsandista wrote...

M25105 wrote...

Again, why should I waste my time when I've already given it an hour. A good game captures you almost immediately or within the first 10 minutes.

Then don't. Just don't go screaming that the game sucks when you haven't actually played more than %10 of it.

I never said it sucked I just called it boring and I never brought up Witcher 2 either except in a responce where someone said "The Witcher 2 is a real game" which I thought was BS.

How do you know that? Like you have stated, you haven't played much of TW2,so you don't actually know what you are talking about.

Cause a few hours is more than enough time for the game to have captivated me, it didn't. Simple as that.