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[Masha Potato]

Origins wasn't all that original, let's be honest

[Morty Smith]

[Inappropriate language removed, user banned.]

Modifié par Ninja Stan, 25 septembre 2012 - 06:47 .

[wsandista]

Masha Potato wrote...

Origins wasn't all that original, let's be honest

Damn I didn't see that part.

It was actually good though. DA2 was not.

[Beerfish]

Masha Potato wrote...

Origins wasn't all that original, let's be honest

Why do you say that?  What other games spent as much content on unique back stories to start out a character?  I certainly can't think of any off the top of my head.  Choice in character and race?  Not that original, dedicating a good bit of unique game content to each of these is fairly original, or at the very least not that common.

[Ridwan]

Masha Potato wrote...

Origins wasn't all that original, let's be honest

I loved it Don't care about originality.

[Currently Stoned]

wsandista wrote...

Masha Potato wrote...

Origins wasn't all that original, let's be honest

Damn I didn't see that part.

It was actually good though. DA2 was not.

I think the best way of describing origins is an example of a cliche done extremelyy well

[axl99]

I think the point some people were trying to make was:

TW2's "love scenes" were hardly romantic because it made me feel like a damn voyeur in someone's eurotrash porn movie, I would rather not see it in a DA game please and thank you.

Modifié par axl99, 24 septembre 2012 - 03:43 .

[Masha Potato]

 

Beerfish wrote...


Why do you say that?  What other games spent as much content on unique back stories to start out a character?  I certainly can't think of any off the top of my head.  Choice in character and race?  Not that original, dedicating a good bit of unique game content to each of these is fairly original, or at the very least not that common.

 

i meant the game, not the backstory feature

Modifié par Masha Potato, 24 septembre 2012 - 03:45 .

[Zack_Nero]

Chances are is that they aren't going to do that, and if they were it be witcher style. If BioWare made a woman shower in her undergarments, then they aren't going to throw in nudity. Be nice if they would be a bit more realistic but they aren't going to that do it for some reason.

Modifié par Zack_Nero, 24 septembre 2012 - 03:58 .

[ottifant64]

Damn, you guys are all to prudish.

I support REAL sex scenes in DA3.

Even though I won't play the game.

[The Hierophant]

The Hierophant wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

I just don't like the mentality some people have regarding sex in games.

Nudity = mature.
No nudity = it sucks!

I respectfully disagree.

It would be better for romances to be minimal/subtle. The resources used in making romance scenes, and voicing the dialogue could be used for increased dialogue options in the main quest.

*bump*

Modifié par The Hierophant, 24 septembre 2012 - 03:49 .

[Morty Smith]

axl99 wrote...

I think the point some people were trying to make was:

TW2's "love scenes" were hardly romantic because it made me feel like a damn voyeur in someone's eurotrash porn movie, I would rather not see it in a DA game please and thank you.

@topic: Why can´t there just be a nudity-level filter, if we already have a gore-level filter. Why is only the virtual dismemberment fetish served?

Modifié par Allan Schumacher, 24 septembre 2012 - 07:22 .

[Xewaka]

Zack_Nero wrote...
Chances are is that they aren't going to do that, and if they were it be witcher style. If BioWare made a woman shower in her undergarments, then they aren't going to throw in nudity. Be nice if they would be a bit more realistic but they aren't going to that do it for some reason.

They aren't going to do it because having to make models from scratch for most party members and the player character for a single scene is a waste of resources.

[wsandista]

@topic: Why can´t there just be a nudity-level filter, if we already have a gore-level filter. Why is only the virtual dismemberment fetish served?

Violence=OK
Sex=BAD

Maybe if sex was violent..........

Modifié par Allan Schumacher, 24 septembre 2012 - 07:23 .

[The Hierophant]

wsandista wrote...

Violence=OK
Sex=BAD

Maybe if sex was violent..........

You can have the video equivalent of a Q.Tarantino's film complete with delimbing, decapitation, executions, beatdown of a pregnant women, eye gouging, human blood fountains, excessive slaughter, and no one bats an eye.

Show some side  boob  then people would go ape, and it becomes a hour long topic on some conservative news program.

Modifié par The Hierophant, 24 septembre 2012 - 04:26 .

[ottifant64]

axl99 wrote...

I think the point some people were trying to make was:

TW2's "love scenes" were hardly romantic because it made me feel like a damn voyeur in someone's eurotrash porn movie, I would rather not see it in a DA game please and thank you.

What? Ok, thank you Captain America.

Your point of view is way too conservative.

[LiquidGrape]

Kroitz wrote...

Or you could just close your eyes and pray for it to be over soon. Just like your first time.

If this is the supposed "maturity" to be associated with the people asking for this particular feature I can say without a shred of doubt in my mind that I want nothing to do with them or it in any way, shape or form.

Modifié par LiquidGrape, 24 septembre 2012 - 04:24 .

[Rinji the Bearded]

ottifant64 wrote...

axl99 wrote...

I think the point some people were trying to make was:

TW2's "love scenes" were hardly romantic because it made me feel like a damn voyeur in someone's eurotrash porn movie, I would rather not see it in a DA game please and thank you.

What? Ok, thank you Captain America.

Your point of view is way too conservative.

...

It's not conservative to ask that the romance scenes be well done and not exploitative, awkward, and pandering like the TW2 scenes were.   People having sex on screen does not always = sexy.

[Emzamination]

ottifant64 wrote...

Damn, you guys are all to prudish.

I support REAL sex scenes in DA3.

Even though I won't play the game.

So just because I don't want to see pixelated people going at it, I'm a prude? Fair enough.

[TobiTobsen]

The Hierophant wrote...

wsandista wrote...

Violence=OK
Sex=BAD

Maybe if sex was violent..........

You can have the video equivalent of a Q.Tarantino's film complete with delimbing, decapitation, executions, beatdown of a pregnant women, eye gouging, human blood fountains, excessive slaughter, and no one bats an eye.

Show some side then boob people would go ape, and it becomes a hour long topic on some conservative news program.

Come to Germany good sir! We will show you all the nudity you want, but don't you dare to show to much violence or we will censor your movie like there is no tomorrow!

Modifié par TobiTobsen, 24 septembre 2012 - 04:29 .

[Urazz]

I rather not have the Witcher 2's level of sex where it feels more like a porno than anything else. I much rather have sex scenes much like you would find in a movie. At the most you would see some short flashes of nudity but it's not like you are watching a porno movie.

[Xewaka]

TobiTobsen wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

wsandista wrote...
Violence=OK
Sex=BAD
Maybe if sex was violent..........

You can have the video equivalent of a Q.Tarantino's film complete with delimbing, decapitation, executions, beatdown of a pregnant women, eye gouging, human blood fountains, excessive slaughter, and no one bats an eye.
Show some side then boob people would go ape, and it becomes a hour long topic on some conservative news program.

Come to Germany good sir! We will show you all the nudity you want, but don't you dare to show to much violence or we will censor your movie like there is no tomorrow!

Not to mention good ol' spanish "destape" movies from the late seventies and eighties, where they got naked women on screen mostly because they could. We europeans have no problem with gratuitous nakedness on camera. No, the problem with sex scenes in videogames is that they're awkward and offputting because of animation issues, they rarely serve any narrative purpose, and they do nothing to improve the gameplay experience.

[Herr Uhl]

Kroitz wrote...

@topic: Why can´t there just be a nudity-level filter, if we already have a gore-level filter. Why is only the virtual dismemberment fetish served?

Oh, this is easy. Budget.

Fighting and killing is an inevitable part of a DA style game. Sure there is conversations and such, but the meat of the gameplay is combat.

Was the reason that there were no sex scenes in Witcher 1 that they were prudes?

[Gibb_Shepard]

hoorayforicecream wrote...

joshko wrote...

wsandista wrote...

M25105 wrote...

Enough to know it's boring. Cue "Go back and play COD"

Please actually finish a game if you are going to deride it.

In his defense the beginging of TW2 is the hump you have to get over before the game shines.
It does raise the question though; how can he speak on authority about parts of a game he never got to? With out knowing the circumstances that brought the characters there and the development of the characters' relationships prior to that momenet?
Very curious...

I have finished the game. There is no development, because there can't be. Geralt is an amnesiac, but he's destined to be with Lady Not-Appearing-In-This-Game. Triss is in love with him, but their relationship can never advance, because the source material says that it doesn't. So all you get in the game is a snapshot of this friends-with-benefits holding pattern relationship, and that's it because that's all there can be. You can't go past that, and you can't not do it either. There's no choice involved. You can choose whether Geralt has sex with her in act 1, but beyond that, nothing you choose makes any difference. Triss survives and stays with Geralt, regardless of whether the player chooses to rescue her, because the canon has said it to be so.

You might argue that finding out the details about the snapshot is interesting, but I don't find it particularly engaging.

CDPR have full reign on where they take the story, and are not somehow obligated to force Geralt to end up with Yennefer. Sapkowski has nothing to do with the game series. Only metagaming can lead you to such a conclusion; so i'm guessing you either read about the plotlines for TW2 and the books prior to playing the game, or you just read a story synopsis and haven't actually played the game.

Whether or not the Triss choice ends up the same is completely and utterly irrelevant to the development. When making the choice, you are essentially choosing between Geralt's love for Triss and his ideals for Vergen/partiality towards children. The development is defined by the choice, not the consequence.

"The canon has said it to be so" is a pretty funny line. Do you know how many events i could pull from Dragon Age that would fit that same decription? That i could pull from every RPG ever made? She is alive because the Devs want her to be in the next game. She is a PINNACLE character and a dear freind/lover to Geralt. Casting her aside would be a detriment to future character developments. Hell, Bioware ended up regretting Leliana's death. Good story-tellers know that making every single character expendable is a detriment to future installments. 

[Rinji the Bearded]

Xewaka wrote...
Not to mention good ol' spanish "destape" movies from the late seventies and eighties, where they got naked women on screen mostly because they could. We europeans have no problem with gratuitous nakedness on camera. No, the problem with sex scenes in videogames is that they're awkward and offputting because of animation issues, they rarely serve any narrative purpose, and they do nothing to improve the gameplay experience.

This

Of course someone will I'm sure say that pixels thrusting into pixels is going to help with their immersions.