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[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

Ivandra Ceruden wrote...

Gotta agree with Matchy Pointy here. These forums are filled with immature people obsessed with boobs, willies and sex. If you want to play porn games, go play hentai games. Knowing Japan, there's enough of that crap out there.

Ever heard the saying "the surest sign of immaturity is the desire to appear mature"?

Perhaps once you get older you will realise that maturity is overrated.

[Bfler]

What's wrong with you guys? Seems like people here are more concerned about some naked bodies, than the brutal violence with a lot of blood splatter.
Nothing is wrong with a bit more skin, if the corresponding scene is tasteful,romantic.
And nobody is automatically perverted or immature, if he watches such a scene. Or do you also characterize all the people who visit a naturist beach as immature?

Modifié par Bfler, 23 septembre 2012 - 09:08 .

[LPPrince]

A Triss/Geralt style romance? Sure.

Sex scenes as depicted in The Witcher 2? Nah.

Unnecessary.

[Gibb_Shepard]

DuckSoup wrote...

Bfler wrote...

What's wrong with you guys? Seems like people here are more concerned about some naked bodies, than the brutal violence with a lot of blood splatter.
Nothing is wrong with a bit more skin, if the corresponding scene is tasteful,romantic.
And nobody is automatically perverted or immature, if he watches such a scene. Or do you also call all the people who visit a naturist beach immature?

I also don't agree that people who enjoy sex or the human form are "immature" or "perverted" - That's simply the opinion of someone who hasn't experienced it enough to be comfortable with it. 

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOburn.

[philippe willaume]

well i am all in favor of getting rid of the super ultra crap Bridget Jones undies, That are really really ugly and really really naf and out of place.
I mean lets imagine an ensign taking a shower in her captain cabin. she has her undies on, why? Probably, just in case a well known commander barges in. Oh wait a minute the plan of the said enseign was that should the said commander barges in, she would shags his/her brains out.

Now that does not mean that we need a shag-fest with paraphernalia either. Lets not go back to the 80 movies gratuitous sex scene that does nothing for the story and is just there so that we can see the actor with their kit off.

Phil

[Eyil]

No.

I'd rather have actual depth and class to romances rather than fake maturity through T&A. The Witcher's selling point was the sex scenes (I've never heard any praise about the gameplay or story), and Bioware has a lot more to give with their games.

And no, it's not "self censorship." It's just refusing to appeal to the lowest common demoninator of gamers who want to see "boobies," as it was so eloquently put before. I agree that there should be some moderate nudity to eliminate the "straight through the trousers" vibe, but that can be achieved through obscured nudity like in ME1.

And while enjoying sex and the human body isn't immature or perverted, "just show more ass and ******" seems to me like a very immature and perverted thing to say. So no, I don't want to see unnecessary "boobies" and certainly not in my video games. If I want something to get off to, there are plenty of other places to find something just up my alley, I'm sure.

[NedPepper]

Why be puritanical about it? If there are sex scenes, it's sillier and more immature to show them fully clothed. There are ways to do it tastefully. Hell, broadcast TV shows more than the suddenly sex scared Bioware. Nobody is asking for porn. But if the implication is an intimate sexual encounter, there are plenty of tasteful yet mature ways to show it.

[Dave of Canada]

Eyil wrote...

I'd rather have actual depth and class to romances rather than fake maturity through T&A.

You've clearly not played it, then. The relationship with Triss and how you handle it--especially near the endgame--has loads of depth. class? Not as much there, though you can't really claim BioWare has "classy" romances.

The Witcher's selling point was the sex scenes

No, it was pc-centric development and a mature story with actual consequences.

(I've never heard any praise about the gameplay or story)

Then you've not been on the BSN long.

and Bioware has a lot more to give with their games.

How so?

And no, it's not "self censorship."

Mass Effect 1 to anything past that disagrees.

Hell, look at the DA2 Valentine's Day romance screenshots. They're nude, yet ingame they're clothed. There's some "self censorship" going on.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 23 septembre 2012 - 10:03 .

[TheBlackBaron]

I really need to get cracking on a new BSN drinking game for DA3. I think I'll get started right now.

*downs entire bottle*

That said, exactly where you draw the line on what's "mature" and what's "pointless titillation" is really sort of a subjective thing, and frankly TW2 puts HBO to shame so it's understandable if you don't want to go that far. But I think we can all agree that the heavy petting in underwear that DA:O and DA2 have featured is just really awkward and silly.

ME1, I thought, handled it quite well. Look to that as a starting point.

[philippe willaume]

Eyil wrote...

No.

I'd rather have actual depth and class to romances rather than fake maturity through T&A. The Witcher's selling point was the sex scenes (I've never heard any praise about the gameplay or story), and Bioware has a lot more to give with their games.

And no, it's not "self censorship." It's just refusing to appeal to the lowest common demoninator of gamers who want to see "boobies," as it was so eloquently put before. I agree that there should be some moderate nudity to eliminate the "straight through the trousers" vibe, but that can be achieved through obscured nudity like in ME1.

And while enjoying sex and the human body isn't immature or perverted, "just show more ass and ******" seems to me like a very immature and perverted thing to say. So no, I don't want to see unnecessary "boobies" and certainly not in my video games. If I want something to get off to, there are plenty of other places to find something just up my alley, I'm sure.

Hello
well as much as i  agree with you point. i have to say that I never heard a praise about the gameplay or story about the witcher is ludicrous. Browse the DA:2 forum, and you will find many a praise for the witcher story.

And not it is not all ******, arse, artful and jacks. In fact the romace with triss is really really good, you can play it as casual sex or dump yennefer for her.
you can stay faithfull or shag anything that moves or shag it till it does but IT IS THE PLAYER CHOICE. 

The sex scene in the witcher 1 were fine, (the card collecting was a dubious though)
In the witcher 2 they could do without the humping sequence, it is visually hakward and really  does do anything for the story.
But the amount and the level of nudity fits well with the story, if you take the gratuitous humping and moaning sequences out most of the scene are quite well done (and would the law permits it would probably see more of the men as well).

To be fair the double standarard skin tight outfit arse shot are fine but naked butt is not does not sits to well with me (not that I think it is what you say). Either you do both and none.
Phil

Modifié par philippe willaume, 23 septembre 2012 - 11:16 .

[Maverick827]

Making Dragon Age 3 closer to the Witcher series is about the only thing BioWare can do to make me not want to buy it. The Witcher is nerd wish fulfillment at its worst. Tell a good story instead, BioWare.

[Lioncourt87]

You don't need visual nudity to tell us that it's a sex scene. Sure, a bit of bum and cleavage is fine, but full on complete visual nudity really isn't necessary. But then again the knowledge that the Warden/Hawke and LI were still wearing underwear did steal the magic a bit. If Bioware can pull subtle and suggestive 'naked' sex in Mass Effect then surely it can be done in a Dragon Age game.

[Gibb_Shepard]

Maverick827 wrote...

Making Dragon Age 3 closer to the Witcher series is about the only thing BioWare can do to make me not want to buy it. The Witcher is nerd wish fulfillment at its worst. Tell a good story instead, BioWare.

Troll detected

[Captain Crash]

Cerberus Commando wrote...

Get rid of the braws and panties and show us the BOOBIES and BOOTIES!!! Bioware all day ****es!!!

*sighs*

With such a compelling and logical arguement Bioware has to listen! 

Modifié par Captain Crash, 23 septembre 2012 - 10:50 .

[KingRoxas]

Bfler wrote...

Seems like people here are more concerned about some naked bodies, than the brutal violence with a lot of blood splatter.
Nothing is wrong with a bit more skin.

Modifié par Kingroxas, 23 septembre 2012 - 11:08 .

[Dubozz]

Yes

[Karlone123]

No, keep it tasteful. Pixel nudity is a bit awkward.

[Ridwan]

They should get rid of the bras and panties during the actual sex scenes and just do it tastefully like in ME 3 with Liara, you get the idea that she's naked, but you don't see any private parts. Everyone is happy.

[TobiTobsen]

M25105 wrote...

They should get rid of the bras and panties during the actual sex scenes and just do it tastefully like in ME 3 with Liara, you get the idea that she's naked, but you don't see any private parts. Everyone is happy.

Hehe... but Liara was the only one, probably because she's an alien.

So if BioWare doesn't classifies Orlesians as Aliens we will have to hope for a Tal-Vashoth or Darkspawn (ewww) LI or hope that BioWare can overcome their bra and panty routine.

Modifié par TobiTobsen, 23 septembre 2012 - 11:59 .

[llandwynwyn]

You mean the game where the ladies were naked but the guy used pants? No.

[coles4971]

Maverick827 wrote...

Making Dragon Age 3 closer to the Witcher series is about the only thing BioWare can do to make me not want to buy it. The Witcher is nerd wish fulfillment at its worst. Tell a good story instead, BioWare.

you think the witcher's story is bad? I thought it was freaking amazing tbh, especially the characters which are, unlike Bioware characters actually competent and don't just kiss the arse of the protag.

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when it comes to sex scenes, to be quite honest i don't give a crap, the only thing i'll ask for is to get rid of that awkward clothed humping from origins, seriously I can't stand that scene I just skip it the moment it starts 

[Druk-Qs]

Why not.