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Grommash94

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Hehe that is true, although, I am fairly certain most of Rivendell knew.

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Ulrik the Slayer

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At least Aragorn was man enough to take up the responsibility of being a king without a major whinefest.




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The cake.. was that the cheese? The cake is a lie. Sphere. I liked it. Even tho I did not get the cake....



As for Aragorn.. he complained a bit.. but not like alistair... either way im pretty sure Aragorn was well paid for his time... I feel like alistair owes me something...

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im sure you can download a mod or two for that drill



;)

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drill10

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a mod for alistair? or the game in general? b/c I really wish I had something to download. Even if it was a mod.. but my game is still all original.. I do wish that EA had waited a bit to release the initial dlc though. I do not think we would be seeing so little commotion otherwise.

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Daddydib

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"I feel like alistair owes me something..." a mod that allows you to romance him ;)



my first 2 playthrough were vanilla, but after a few weeks, some good enhancements have come out that really improves in the already awesome game





but lets not get off course ;)

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I thought that Dragon Age:O was similar to Lord of the Rings too... but not in the sense of characters or plot. Playing through the game, I noticed very similar types of camera angles and shots from the LoTR movies... so much in fact that I couldn't help going 'hey.... that's just like that one LoTR scene.....'



I thought it was interesting.

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I love LotR, I would love to have BW doing a LotR CRPG, but since EA already lost its rights on the franchise, I'll settle for DA:O.



I wouldn't mind some modules on LotR from the toolset wizards and could we have it, permanent worlds as well. But online gaming is not happening in DA:O.

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Grommash94

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BW doing a LOTR RPG....oh god that would be awwwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeesome.

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Ulrik the Slayer

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At least the LotR-universe has got the Wizard fashion right: plain robe with a big pointy hat.

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Clearly you haven't studied a rage demon. It also has legs and a face you can clearly see and is quite huge too....well at least when we talk monsters in video games!

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Ulrik the Slayer wrote...

At least the LotR-universe has got the Wizard fashion right: plain robe with a big pointy hat.


also the stick. dont forget the stick.

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Grommash94 wrote...

Morgoth was far more powerful than Sauron. And it is questionable if Morgoth was the most powerful Ainur, as Tulkas seemed to thrash him.



Morgoth was pretty darn weak, Melkor was the being who was unbelievably powerful.  As a Dark Lord he lost much of his power corrupting Arda and creating his evil critters.

It would be safe to say that Morgoth probably wasn't even on the level of the Valar, but as Melkor he was described as the mightier than the other 12 combined.

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the_one_54321 wrote...

Ulrik the Slayer wrote...

At least the LotR-universe has got the Wizard fashion right: plain robe with a big pointy hat.


also the stick. dont forget the stick.


Well, to be fair DA:O did get the sticks right...sorta.

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Deception_2112 wrote...

Grommash94 wrote...
Morgoth was far more powerful than Sauron. And it is questionable if Morgoth was the most powerful Ainur, as Tulkas seemed to thrash him.

Morgoth was pretty darn weak, Melkor was the being who was unbelievably powerful.  As a Dark Lord he lost much of his power corrupting Arda and creating his evil critters.

It would be safe to say that Morgoth probably wasn't even on the level of the Valar, but as Melkor he was described as the mightier than the other 12 combined.


bordering between mostly inaccurate, and completely inaccurate.

Morgoth and Melkor were/are the same entity. Morgoth was never really diminished in power, and Melkor was never described as "mightier than the other 12 combined." Melkor was the mightiest of the Valar, and Morgoth was only diminished by his defeat at the hands of the Valar, but still retained much of his potency. for the most part, he was simply unable to ever take a form that appeared noble and fair.

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Arragorn right wussed out until it was forced on him just like Alistair.....though Alistair was a lot more vocal about it.



Duncan and Gandalf before Gandalf changed to White. Both recruited and worked on a Need to Know basis....

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Yes I have also noticed some similarities between the two. I am also a huge fan of LOTR by the way. However, when you think about it, every fantasy game is somewhat based off of Tolkien's world. The classic Orc for example is used in just about every fantasy game imaginable, though the names of the creatures might vary of course.

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I don't think they meant it in a bad way...

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Ness519 wrote...

Arragorn right wussed out until it was forced on him just like Alistair.....though Alistair was a lot more vocal about it.




wrong. Aragorn of the movies was reluctant to go about reclaiming his throne. Aragorn of the original story, ie the book, was biding his time, even carrying around the shards of Narsil as a reminder of his goal, and fully intended to eventually reclaim the throne so as to claim by right the privilege to marry Arwen.


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So it's not wrong lol. Reread what you typed and you'll see why.



Feel free to PM if you want to get into it, don't want to over run a fun thread.

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the_one_54321 wrote...

Ness519 wrote...
Arragorn right wussed out until it was forced on him just like Alistair.....though Alistair was a lot more vocal about it.


wrong. Aragorn of the movies was reluctant to go about reclaiming his throne. Aragorn of the original story, ie the book, was biding his time, even carrying around the shards of Narsil as a reminder of his goal, and fully intended to eventually reclaim the throne so as to claim by right the privilege to marry Arwen.


+1

I was going to post the same thing until I read the quoted post.  DAO resembles the MOVIE LotR, rather than the book LotR.  Now, I'm not saying that's a bad thing, as I like the movie (I'm actually watching the extended versions in between DAO playtime), but yeah, the game much more resembles the movies than the book (books, if you want to include The Silmarillion).

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Another resemblance - When the one ring is destroyed , it completely demoralises Sauron's forces - and even destroys them in the movie - The final cutscenes after the archdemon's death are very similar.

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the line of thought supported in the books is that the dark land was held up by Saurons will. similarly, Morgoths realm was maintained by his sill. when Morgoth was permanently removed, Sauron took his place and maintained the evil races. when Sauron was removed to Numenor, the elves under Gil'galad reconquered most of middle earth and brought peace. when Sauron returned to Mordor after the fall of Numenor he raises his minions back up and began retaking middle earth. when again Sauron was removed, this time utterly destroyed, his minions lost all will to continue. there was no longer any great will to motivate their continued existence. this is further supported by the fact that the forces of humans that came to support Sauron continued to fight, even after he was destroyed, because they were working under his will, but were not fully supported by his will as were the orcs and trolls.

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ZiggyStardust25 wrote...
Now her mother Ungoliant was a female demon that had taken the form of a giant spider and was an ally of Morgoth, the first dark lord. She was either a creature spawned from the void or a fallen Aniu or perhaps even a Maiar corrupted by Morgoth. She had existed before the creation of Arda, the world were LOTr takes place.


Now that, Ungoliant, makes me think of Flemeth. Maybe because I think Flemeth is much older than either Leliana or Morrigan state. Even older than the tales state. Maybe.

Also, Flemeth scares me. She is far more dangerous than the Archdemon.

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the_one_54321 wrote...

Ness519 wrote...
Arragorn right wussed out until it was forced on him just like Alistair.....though Alistair was a lot more vocal about it.


wrong. Aragorn of the movies was reluctant to go about reclaiming his throne. Aragorn of the original story, ie the book, was biding his time, even carrying around the shards of Narsil as a reminder of his goal, and fully intended to eventually reclaim the throne so as to claim by right the privilege to marry Arwen.


Actually, he left Rivendell with Andúril already reforged, didn't he? He knew he would be the King but only if Gondor acknowlegded him as such. When he was shown to have the "hands of a healer" and the power over the betrayers, thus fulfilling the prophecy of Malbeth the Seer. Aragorn quotes Malbeth's prediction about his own future in RotK.

"The exact date of Andúril's forging isn't recorded, but all the indications are that it was reforged in the week before the setting out of the Fellowship on 25 December III 3018." (Encyclopedia of Arda)

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