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[obZen DF]

It's obvious that the ending to Legacy is open to much speculation. It's also notable that it's definitely not the end of that 'storyline'.
Do you think there will be a follow up on the events off Legacy?
Do you think we'll see Larius/Janeka in DA3? 
What role will they play?
And is Corypheus still 'alive'?
Corypheus and The Architect, will their relation be expanded upon? 

I'm a Lore geek, and Legacy was Lore at it's best. I'm really looking forward to this.

[Shevy]

I hope we'll see the Architect again when spared in Awakening. Although I read the novel relating to him I like this fellow.

[Reznore57]

I hope so ...

I mean those guy are supposed to be the old magisters , they went to the Black city and their actions shaped Thedas.
They might be the most important people(darkspawn) on Thedas right now (except maybe Flemeth).

Corypheus is looking for the "light" ,and that's what they were looking for in the first place.
The chantry said they went because they were greedy .
But for me "light" doesn't rhyme at all with greed.
I think there's something there.

About the Architect , some people killed him ....and his plan is basically to turn pretty much everybody in a ghoul.He thinks that's the best solution to end the Blight ...I think he's kinda stupid.

I have no idea what role they can play...I'm sure Cori is up to something but what....?
It's a big mystery .We know almost nothing about the golden city expedition.

[Andraste_Reborn]

I think this plot thread will be returned to at some point. Will it be in DA3? Impossible to say at the moment.

[caradoc2000]

Corypheus is dead as a dodo.

[Withidread]

Reznore57 wrote...

I hope so ...

I mean those guy are supposed to be the old magisters , they went to the Black city and their actions shaped Thedas.
They might be the most important people(darkspawn) on Thedas right now (except maybe Flemeth).

Corypheus is looking for the "light" ,and that's what they were looking for in the first place.
The chantry said they went because they were greedy .
But for me "light" doesn't rhyme at all with greed.
I think there's something there.

About the Architect , some people killed him ....and his plan is basically to turn pretty much everybody in a ghoul.He thinks that's the best solution to end the Blight ...I think he's kinda stupid.

I have no idea what role they can play...I'm sure Cori is up to something but what....?
It's a big mystery .We know almost nothing about the golden city expedition.

From the way Corypheus talks it makes it sound as though they were duped into seeking the golden city in the first place.  He then wants to be brought to the temple of Dumat, presumably to deliver related information of some sort. I'd say whatever entity is responsible for duping the ancient magisters is definitely going to show up as a major antagonist at some point. I'd also say that I think there's a good chance that that particular entity is now being called "The Maker" by the Chantry.

[whykikyouwhy]

I'm not sure that we'll "see" Larius/Janeka again, but I think we will hear about their actions post-Legacy. I'm inclined to think that Corypheus managed to do a soul-jump into one of the Wardens (at least, it's a wonderful bit of speculative fluff, so I'd like to see where that arc goes, if indeed it's true), so I suspect that L/J will return to the Wardens, and somehow, some way, enact some treachery - and we'll get to read a chunky codex entry or hear a lot of rumors in-game.

As to what a-still-functioning Corypheus (in whatever host/shell) might want...perhaps he will seek to awaken/free other imprisoned magisters. Perhaps he and his ilk are the crux of the Sandal's prophecy and will make another stab at the Golden City. He possessed far too much arrogance and hubris for that to simply dissolve after a long slumber.

[Fredward]

I think Corypheus is too important to write off. An original magister? One of the guys who were actually IN the Golden/Not-So-Golden city? Waaaaay too important. I've never managed to finish Awakening but I assume the same goes for the Architect.

[Maclimes]

I suspect that we will not get much more than simple nods and cameos by the Wardens and the Darkspawn. My thinking is that those could fill an entire game, and so they likely will have their own down the line. Maybe DA4. I'd rather DA3 stay focused on the Mage/Templar thing. There's plenty of story there to fill a whole game, too.

[LolaLei]

Well, it certainly looked as though he possessed Janeka/Larius' body at the end of the DLC, so it's probably not the last we've seen of him.

[Heimdall]

Reznore57 wrote...

About the Architect , some people killed him ....and his plan is basically to turn pretty much everybody in a ghoul.He thinks that's the best solution to end the Blight ...I think he's kinda stupid.

Not so much stupid as naive.  He just has very little understanding of people or even the value of life.

[obZen DF]

whykikyouwhy wrote...

I'm not sure that we'll "see" Larius/Janeka again, but I think we will hear about their actions post-Legacy. I'm inclined to think that Corypheus managed to do a soul-jump into one of the Wardens (at least, it's a wonderful bit of speculative fluff, so I'd like to see where that arc goes, if indeed it's true), so I suspect that L/J will return to the Wardens, and somehow, some way, enact some treachery - and we'll get to read a chunky codex entry or hear a lot of rumors in-game.

As to what a-still-functioning Corypheus (in whatever host/shell) might want...perhaps he will seek to awaken/free other imprisoned magisters. Perhaps he and his ilk are the crux of the Sandal's prophecy and will make another stab at the Golden City. He possessed far too much arrogance and hubris for that to simply dissolve after a long slumber.

Never thought about that. That's actually a pretty good interpretation. Wow. So much speculations! 
Though I'm ok with a codex explaining Larius' actions, it would be cool if we see one of them in DA3, being all evil again because of Corypheus. Maybe Corypheus and Flemeth are linked together, wreaking havoc in Thedas. Maybe it's all part of the main plot aside the war.

[Iron Star]

Am I the only one who instantly thought that Flemeth might be the one who duped the golden city expedition? It fits with the theories about Flemeth being the trickster wolf elf god. During the height of the tevinter imperium Flemeth might have established herslef as a really powerful magister or something like that, and influenced other the other magisters to journey to the golden city.

OMGITALLMAKESENSENOW!

EDIT: Spelling errors.

Modifié par Get fired up, 23 septembre 2012 - 06:43 .

[Robhuzz]

Get fired up wrote...

Am I the only one who instantly thought that Flemeth might be the one who duped the golden city expedition? It fits with the theories about Flemeth being the trickster wolf elf god. During the height of the tevinter imperium Flemeth might have established herslef as a really powerful magister or something like that, and influenced other the other magisters to journey to the golden city.

OMGITALLMAKESENSENOW!

EDIT: Spelling errors.

Doesn't Corypheus specifically say they were influenced by Dumat to journey into the golden city?

Modifié par Robhuzz, 23 septembre 2012 - 06:45 .

[Vandicus]

Get fired up wrote...

Am I the only one who instantly thought that Flemeth might be the one who duped the golden city expedition? It fits with the theories about Flemeth being the trickster wolf elf god. During the height of the tevinter imperium Flemeth might have established herslef as a really powerful magister or something like that, and influenced other the other magisters to journey to the golden city.

OMGITALLMAKESENSENOW!

EDIT: Spelling errors.

The magisters entered the Golden City at Dumat's behest. That would mean Flemeth would've had to pretend to be Dumat(during a time period where Dumat communicated with his priests). Not impossible, but very very difficult.

[Knight of Dane]

obZen DF wrote...

It's obvious that the ending to Legacy is open to much speculation. It's also notable that it's definitely not the end of that 'storyline'.
Do you think there will be a follow up on the events off Legacy?
Do you think we'll see Larius/Janeka in DA3? 
What role will they play?
And is Corypheus still 'alive'?
Corypheus and The Architect, will their relation be expanded upon? 

I'm a Lore geek, and Legacy was Lore at it's best. I'm really looking forward to this.

Well, it's implied that Corypheus channels into the
surviving warden, but I hope the Architect stays dead if you killed him.

I will be impressed if Bioware works it out so all choices has consequences and
rewards.

Like this:

If the Architect lived:

You encounter Corypheus and the Architect in the Deep Roads on a mission for
the Wardens. After a brief confrontation the Architect calls for a standstill
and you lay down your arms. Corypheus disagrees and flees the site.

The Architect explains that Coryoheus is still getting used to the world after
he has awakened and that he can be reasoned with, he asks you to let him try to
persuade him into settling down his fury.

•        
  If you accept:
  
  You advance with the Architect and after a brief encounter with Corypheus the
  Architect manages to calm him by reassuring that the Inquisitor wishes to ally
  with them. They both leave the site, promising the Inquisitor their combative
  support, should s/he ever need it.
•         If you refuse:
  
  The Architect attacks you sending Utha to escort Corypheus. The Inquisitor
  kills the Architect but not in time to prevent Corypheus’ escape. On the body
  of the Architect you find papaers detailing the Darkspawn joining. You pick
  them up and deliver them to the local wardens in exchange for their combative
  support should you ever need it.

If the Architect died:

You encounter Corypheus alone as Janeka/Larius in an old site once settled by
the Architect. Not suspecting his true identity but curious about the wardens
rotted state, you proceed to hear him out. When awakened darkspawn suddenly
appear you question Corypheus motive and identity and he attacks you. You
follow him as he tries to flee, and comes to a final encounter. Here he tells
you of the Architect and his intention of uniting the races under the
corruption. He asks you to trust him and that he can give you great power in
return for leaving him.

•        If you accept:
  He fools you and lets his awakened general sacrifice himself against you while
  he escapes. You must return to the Wardens without any information about the
  awakened Darkspawn.

•        
  If you refuse:
  You attack Corypheus facing him a final time. You kill him and search his/Janeka’s/Larius
  body. You find the notes from the Architect detailing the process of Awakening
  Darkspawn with their own joining and a magical artifact that may hold magical
  secrets from the time of the first blight.
  
  The wardens are impressed with your discovery and promises to bring word of
  your service to Weisshaupt. After the next major quest you receive a letter
  from the First Warden urging you to Weisshaupt where he promises you the full
  support of the Grey Wardens should you need it.

Just an example, but something like that.

Modifié par Knight of Dane, 23 septembre 2012 - 07:16 .

[obZen DF]

^^ Hmm, I don't know if Corypheus has the same intention as the Architect. Well, I'm sure of that actually. I know it's just an example, but I thought I might just point that out

[Knight of Dane]

Yeah, I wasn't suggesting that he had the same motivations, but if he happened upon the Architect or his lair, why wouldn't he want intelligent commandos to deal with his enemies?

Modifié par Knight of Dane, 23 septembre 2012 - 08:19 .

[panamakira]

You know, I totally forgot about Corypheus and the Architect. The issue I have right now with the Dragon Age world is that there are so many open ended conflicts. There is way too many things that we have yet to get answers for after playing entire games or DLCs.

[Wotannanow]

caradoc2000 wrote...

Corypheus is dead as a dodo.

Unless he possessed Larius. I have my suspicions that might be what happens when he's killed.

[obZen DF]

Wotannanow wrote...

caradoc2000 wrote...

Corypheus is dead as a dodo.

Unless he possessed Larius. I have my suspicions that might be what happens when he's killed.

 
It's generally acknowledged by the community that Larius is posessed. It's really obvious. But, maybe we are all wrong Haha.

[Mr.House]

Why do people think The Architect is a magisister? His past goes not fit that.

Modifié par Mr.House, 23 septembre 2012 - 09:15 .

[nightcobra]

Mr.House wrote...

Why do people think The Architect is a magisister? His past goes not fit that.

he has amnesia and he looks exactly like corypheus, i'd say it's rather safe to assume he was one of the magisters that entered the black city.