The only thing I beg
#1
Guest_franciscoamell_*
Posté 23 septembre 2012 - 09:04
Guest_franciscoamell_*
make sense.
#2
Posté 23 septembre 2012 - 10:00
Vandicus wrote...
There's a time period of about 2 weeks in between shipping and release. Do you think they should halt production during that time period? Do you think they should wait before releasing any dlc produced/finished during that time period? (*Javik for example was a finished character at shipping, but his questline and zone were still being worked on)
The time period is sometimes closer to a month. Though content lockdown usually happens before even this, with only the highest priority issues being looked at.
#3
Posté 23 septembre 2012 - 11:05
#4
Posté 23 septembre 2012 - 11:14
franciscoamell wrote...
The game with all the story and characters the developpers wanted to put in from the start.Allan Schumacher wrote...
How does one define "the complete game?"
You realize if we did this, this means that we would never release DLC, expansions, and in many cases even sequels.
#5
Posté 23 septembre 2012 - 11:24
You realize if we did this, this means that we would never release DLC, expansions, and in many cases even sequels.
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I wouldn't miss DLC to be honest.
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You've made that quite clear. How about sequels? Since we cannot release anything that we would have wanted to put into a game
I just want to be clear, you'd rather not get stuff like Javik as DLC. Does this also mean that you find Javik boring or of subpar quality?
#6
Posté 23 septembre 2012 - 11:51
Nah, that'd be too awesome to release as DLC.
So we should just make sure that we don't make DLC that is awesome?
#7
Posté 24 septembre 2012 - 12:32
franciscoamell wrote...
I think that to make the game worthwhile to the people who don't buy DLC, you can't put something that changes too much the main story, and I'd be very disapointed if Zevran wasn't vital to the plot and as fleshed out as much as the other characters.Allan Schumacher wrote...
So we should just make sure that we don't make DLC that is awesome?
So you honestly don't think the games are "worthwhile" without the DLC?
#8
Posté 24 septembre 2012 - 12:38
I'm fine with this. No DLC, no expansions, just one complete game. This in no way stops you from making sequels - a game tells a complete story.
My point was relating to the idea of a "complete game" put forth that mentioned putting in all the things that we intended to put in.
There is always stuff in sequels that was originally intended to be put in the original game.
#9
Posté 24 septembre 2012 - 12:41
No, I think you are having problems understanding me, or just distorting what I wrote. I meant that games should be(and are, at least the ones I play) a fun experience without DLC and the story have to make sense by it's own. So, you can't release a DLC that affects too much of the story, otherwise the game isn't worth buying without the DLC.
There's plenty of people that have fun with DAO without Shale, DA2 without Sebastian, ME2 without Zaeed, and ME3 without Javik. I'd argue that none of these characters change the story in any way. They merely add to it. A lot like say, Tales of the Sword Coast.
I'm just baffled. You're saying you don't want more content that helps flesh out the game world and provides interesting or even awesome game moments. I agree that the stand alone games need to be coherent and awesome in their own right.
So I guess the idea is, if Javik didn't even exist at all, would people see ME3 differently? Or is Javik just the type of thing that people do want?
Modifié par Allan Schumacher, 24 septembre 2012 - 12:42 .
#10
Posté 24 septembre 2012 - 01:17
franciscoamell wrote...
So you think Day One DLC is sold so they can make money and give it to charity? You think that I'm being greedy to want something for free that could've been a part of what I bought (and sometimes it's already in the disc) and they're releasing more paid content to make world peace? You're a little biased, fanboy.
Greed is a strong word, but the idea that someone would like more content for their dollar is not really a huge stretch of the imagination. I think the goal of any customer is to receive as much as they can for as little cost as possible, so I have nothing against the perspective. It seems that you want it for free because, well, you want more content and don't want to pay for it. Your justifications for this perspective are your own and there's not much reason for me (or anyone else) to try to convince you that you should change your justifications.
#11
Posté 24 septembre 2012 - 01:32
I'm going to close this because it's starting to go downhill.
We do appreciate the feedback. I can't promise no DLC, and I think it's an interesting challenge for us to find a balance between making sure fans are getting value both in their game purchase as well as DLC purchases.
Modifié par Allan Schumacher, 24 septembre 2012 - 01:34 .




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