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[LliiraAnna]

Well, I`ve read somewhere that PC will be an Inquisitor.. However, these are only rumors, so all is possible.
About other races - I`m not against them. What I said was just a suggestion. I would like to play as non-human, too, but I don`t want the devs to break the lore of the game just because we want so. If the PC isn`t an Inquisitor, he can be whoever you like, elf, dwarf, etc. If he is, however, I can hardly imagine him being anything but human.

EDIT

Here`s the thing I`ve read:

"...From the ashes of that explosion, something new arises: The Inquisition. As the Inquisitor, it falls to you to build up your power and martial your forces, uncover secrets and build connections across the world. You must explore forgotten spaces, uncover ancient mysteries and uproot those who would destroy the fabric of the world."

Can be fake, though.

Modifié par LliiraAnna, 11 octobre 2012 - 06:04 .

[reddead136]

If we only get to play as a human , then I really like the idea of origin stories based off of our class.

[daffl5]

Gyrefalcon wrote...

daffl5 wrote...

  The human female princess *snip*

Bard: You are hired to sing at the birthday party of a nobleman in Ferelden. when your finished you seek information by stealing his journal and ledger. your caught in the process and locked up. you escape from the dungeon through the sewers and are caught again. before you cn be executed a grey warden invokes you and you can agree, or agree and lie. if you agree you  become a grey warden, if you lie then you go to the warden HQ and then run away.

****/prostitute: you live in a small city and one night when your hired you go up to the room. when your finished the man grabs your arm and becomes extremely violent. he hits you and you dig your dagger into his eye and run. it turns out he was the arl of the city. you flee and join the fight against the darkspawn.
these are only a few of my ideas!:innocent:

Ugh.  I have to say, Fable III killed my desire to play prince/princess roles.  A bard?  That would be rather neat.  A prostitute?  Unless you have read books like "I Hear A Seed Growing", "Comfort Women", and/or "Memoirs of a Geisha" and really understand the horrors of it, you might not want to go there.  It isn't like Grand Theft Auto prostitutes, or most any video game portrayal.  And I do believe that the Bioware crew could do it justice, but would you really want to play someone risking their life and health to offer their body to strangers?  Pretty dangerous work and you don't get to run around armed.  It is would be much more like the City Elf opening in DA:  Origins.  Actually, that sounds a lot like it, except that your character chose to run the risk. 

I like the bard one. 

How about a baker, butcher, potions expert, or smith?

I get what you mean^_^ the princess may be a little cliche but it may not just be princess maybe noble instead. But bakers and smiths or potions experts wouldn't truly face the dangers a prostitute would. there are many ways that a prostitute could fit in with civil ware and mage war. i mean maybe she is hired by a magistrate or even the Leader of the city.

[daffl5]

i actually made an updated prostitute one

[daffl5]

You dress in your finest gown (which isn't very fine at all) and begin walking down the street. the morning sun is hot and you pull your hat over your eyes as you pass the market. nearly every woman glares at you as you pass, even the noble ones, for they know who you are... and their husbands especially know who you are. when you mother had died and your father left you promised yourself a life of adventure and intrigue and real love... not fake, cheap love.today you are making your stand
You quicken your pace and reach the "house/inn" within the hour. you enter and the laughing cry of men and women can be heard over all else. you push through the crowd to get to the owner. 'Morning' you say, smiling broadly.
'Well, well' he smiles back speedily. 'what had you so happy?'
'After today... after tonight i'm leaving'
'What!' he spills the drink he was holding and looks up at you. 'Leaving... but... you are my best girl! without you no one comes here. except for drink'
'I'm sorry but that is not my concern-'
'-But it is!' he grabs your arm and squeezes. 'We had a deal! you said you would stay for the rest of the year!'
'Things change' you rip yourself free and grab the book beside him 'After tonight i am gone' you see your first customer and the day resumes.

After night falls and you are leaving the inn. you hear a voice. 'hello precious...' you look around and at least five men surround you. in the middle of them was the owner. 'For three years i have waited. waited for one worthy... you think i'm just some inn owner... HA! i'm the leader of a group of mercenaries and we were just hired. we set sail for Antiva tomorrow and if we avoid the the law it will take the best part of six months... and i don't plan on spending a SINGLE night alone in those months... get her!' you turn and run into the abandoned market. all men chasing you. one of them catches your skirt and you tumble. you land next to the blacksmith stand and n the ground you see something shine... a DAGGER! you grab it and shove it into the first man's eye. he screams and falls dead. the others draw their weapons and you have no chances of living until arrows begin flying out of the darkness. all men except the owner are dead and he yells 'GOT FRIENDS DO YA ****?' he runs forward and you dodge him and stick the dagger into his heart. he falls dead. someone comes out of the darkness. a woman... short red hair... skinny... with a bow in hand. 'My story is not so different to yours...' she says. 'But i had the chance to change mine... now so do you' she throws you a small pouch of coins and disappears...

[Felya87]

LliiraAnna wrote...

Well, I`ve read somewhere that PC will be an Inquisitor.. However, these are only rumors, so all is possible.
About other races - I`m not against them. What I said was just a suggestion. I would like to play as non-human, too, but I don`t want the devs to break the lore of the game just because we want so. If the PC isn`t an Inquisitor, he can be whoever you like, elf, dwarf, etc. If he is, however, I can hardly imagine him being anything but human.

EDIT

Here`s the thing I`ve read:

"...From the ashes of that explosion, something new arises: The Inquisition. As the Inquisitor, it falls to you to build up your power and martial your forces, uncover secrets and build connections across the world. You must explore forgotten spaces, uncover ancient mysteries and uproot those who would destroy the fabric of the world."

Can be fake, though.

there a thing..."something NEW arises". that means the Inquisition cna be a totally new order. One who can comprend even Elf or Dwarf. i don't know you, but I think it would be a order similar to ME's Spectre.

Maybe to be an Inquisitor is just required to be a follower af Andraste.

that means: City Elf, Human, Surface Dwarf and Mage don't have a problem. But even A Dwarf who live in Orzamarr. Remember the priest Dwarf in Orzamarr? The Warden could help him to have the chance to confess his faith. That means, even if rare, some Dwarf aren't followers of the Stone.

Yes, there wold be no space for Dalish or Dwarf as we know them, but at least we could have our races, and a little origin to know how the PC was enlisted to be an Inquisitor.

[LliiraAnna]

Felya87 wrote...

there a thing..."something NEW arises". that means the Inquisition cna be a totally new order. One who can comprend even Elf or Dwarf. i don't know you, but I think it would be a order similar to ME's Spectre.

Maybe to be an Inquisitor is just required to be a follower af Andraste.

that means: City Elf, Human, Surface Dwarf and Mage don't have a problem. But even A Dwarf who live in Orzamarr. Remember the priest Dwarf in Orzamarr? The Warden could help him to have the chance to confess his faith. That means, even if rare, some Dwarf aren't followers of the Stone.

Yes, there wold be no space for Dalish or Dwarf as we know them, but at least we could have our races, and a little origin to know how the PC was enlisted to be an Inquisitor.

As I said before, I`m not against it. If it would be explained WHY your elven or dwarven or whatever else PC joins the Inquisition (and it should be explained, because, just as you said, it is rather not common amongst non-human races), I would even welcome it. However, I would also understand if the PCs race will be restricted to human only. That`s all.

And in order to explain the PCs reasons, we`ll need origin stories. That`s why they are (imo) necessary in case if there will be races to choose from.

Modifié par LliiraAnna, 11 octobre 2012 - 10:25 .

[Felya87]

LliiraAnna wrote...

Felya87 wrote...

there a thing..."something NEW arises". that means the Inquisition cna be a totally new order. One who can comprend even Elf or Dwarf. i don't know you, but I think it would be a order similar to ME's Spectre.

Maybe to be an Inquisitor is just required to be a follower af Andraste.

that means: City Elf, Human, Surface Dwarf and Mage don't have a problem. But even A Dwarf who live in Orzamarr. Remember the priest Dwarf in Orzamarr? The Warden could help him to have the chance to confess his faith. That means, even if rare, some Dwarf aren't followers of the Stone.

Yes, there wold be no space for Dalish or Dwarf as we know them, but at least we could have our races, and a little origin to know how the PC was enlisted to be an Inquisitor.

As I said before, I`m not against it. If it would be explained WHY your elven or dwarven or whatever else PC joins the Inquisition (and it should be explained, because, just as you said, it is rather not common amongst non-human races), I would even welcome it. However, I would also understand if the PCs race will be restricted to human only. That`s all.

And in order to explain the PCs reasons, we`ll need origin stories. That`s why they are (imo) necessary in case if there will be races to choose from.

Exactly. If Races returns, they must have their origins. But even if there is the chance of Human character (I still hope not. At least till Bio say otherwise) there must be the origin too. I don't think a Mage would be too happy to chase other like him. it would a...conflict of interest.

[daffl5]

Felya87 wrote...

LliiraAnna wrote...

Felya87 wrote...

there a thing..."something NEW arises". that means the Inquisition cna be a totally new order. One who can comprend even Elf or Dwarf. i don't know you, but I think it would be a order similar to ME's Spectre.

Maybe to be an Inquisitor is just required to be a follower af Andraste.

that means: City Elf, Human, Surface Dwarf and Mage don't have a problem. But even A Dwarf who live in Orzamarr. Remember the priest Dwarf in Orzamarr? The Warden could help him to have the chance to confess his faith. That means, even if rare, some Dwarf aren't followers of the Stone.

Yes, there wold be no space for Dalish or Dwarf as we know them, but at least we could have our races, and a little origin to know how the PC was enlisted to be an Inquisitor.

As I said before, I`m not against it. If it would be explained WHY your elven or dwarven or whatever else PC joins the Inquisition (and it should be explained, because, just as you said, it is rather not common amongst non-human races), I would even welcome it. However, I would also understand if the PCs race will be restricted to human only. That`s all.

And in order to explain the PCs reasons, we`ll need origin stories. That`s why they are (imo) necessary in case if there will be races to choose from.

Exactly. If Races returns, they must have their origins. But even if there is the chance of Human character (I still hope not. At least till Bio say otherwise) there must be the origin too. I don't think a Mage would be too happy to chase other like him. it would a...conflict of interest.

Agreed:lol: he'd be all like  while the mages are like  join us!

[LliiraAnna]

Yes, a mage would need a good reason... Trying to show the others that not all mages support revolution, and that there are still "normal" ones, who wish for peace?
I wonder if there will be a possibility for the PC to become a blood mage... And what consequenses could it have.

[Fast Jimmy]

Just to add my two cents here... DA: Inquisition contains a LOT of the elements from the scrapped Exalted March planned Expansion. Which is great, since it means the work done on one isn't going to be wasted, but rather recycled.



However, that being said... if a lot of the resources are being incorporated from an expansion for DA:2, then that, to me, has a VERY strong indication that there will be no Origins. After all, DA2 focused on a human-only protagonist, so it would make perfect sense that it's expansion would not have included other origins or races.

While it is quite possible that Bioware has decided to bring these back and add them in addition to the setup already worked on during the Exalted March expansion... I wouldn't hang my hat on it. Despite how happy and awesome it would be.

Also, I would think that the concept of Origins, one of their most popular and demanded features in the franchise, would be something they would be touting and waving a flag for from day one if they were going to do it. Instead, the things we've heard them say about complaints they heard about DA2 were combat, re-used levels, inability to equip our companions and the size of the world. Not once did they mention 'not having origins' as a major complaint about DA2 (even though, as this thread and many others shows, it is the case). If it was a flaw they had their hearts set on fixing, I would have thought they'd have mentioned it by now.

[Giggles_Manically]

Bioware: LETS HAVE MULTIPLE RACES!
EA: PEOPLE ONLY LIKE HUMAN LEADS!
Bioware: BUT!
EA: I HAVE SPOKEN!

[Felya87]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Just to add my two cents here... DA: Inquisition contains a LOT of the elements from the scrapped Exalted March planned Expansion. Which is great, since it means the work done on one isn't going to be wasted, but rather recycled.



However, that being said... if a lot of the resources are being incorporated from an expansion for DA:2, then that, to me, has a VERY strong indication that there will be no Origins. After all, DA2 focused on a human-only protagonist, so it would make perfect sense that it's expansion would not have included other origins or races.

While it is quite possible that Bioware has decided to bring these back and add them in addition to the setup already worked on during the Exalted March expansion... I wouldn't hang my hat on it. Despite how happy and awesome it would be.

Also, I would think that the concept of Origins, one of their most popular and demanded features in the franchise, would be something they would be touting and waving a flag for from day one if they were going to do it. Instead, the things we've heard them say about complaints they heard about DA2 were combat, re-used levels, inability to equip our companions and the size of the world. Not once did they mention 'not having origins' as a major complaint about DA2 (even though, as this thread and many others shows, it is the case). If it was a flaw they had their hearts set on fixing, I would have thought they'd have mentioned it by now.

Sorry, just curios: how a recicled expansion may exclude Origins and races? it may be used for secondary missions...

[Fast Jimmy]

^

Given that the name of the Expansion was 'Exalted March' it was goin to be dealing with a war that the Chantry has declared... which we can only assume would have been the Mage/Templat war. Which is the main story plot for DA3, it seems. So, the influence of the Expack will be more than just side quests.

[Felya87]

^

Still, that did not exclude the races...we still don't know much about the role of an Inquisitor, or how our character is going to have this role...

if you don't consider Giggles post. that I believe is the more credible motive.

[LliiraAnna]

I think that with the current amount of information about the game it`s really hard to tell, since all we know are hints and rumors. We don`t even know what the `Inquisition` is. People want races and origins, it`s understandable, and BW surely knows that, yet in DA there was no choice and in ME you could only play as human either. Just an observation. Right now all we can do is express our opinion and wait.

[Fast Jimmy]

I'm not saying it would be impossible that we won't get origins just because there is derivative material from the DA2 expansion... but it certainly doesn't make it anymore likely.

And, again, I think if they were going to make origins for their next game, they would have mentioned it by now, given it was the most requested feature about DA2 (even more than recycled environments or wave combat). I would love to be wrong, but what we've seen so far doesn't seem encouraging to me.

[Felya87]

sjpelkessjpeler wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

I'm not saying it would be impossible that we won't get origins just because there is derivative material from the DA2 expansion... but it certainly doesn't make it anymore likely.

And, again, I think if they were going to make origins for their next game, they would have mentioned it by now, given it was the most requested feature about DA2 (even more than recycled environments or wave combat). I would love to be wrong, but what we've seen so far doesn't seem encouraging to me.

Same here .

In DAO the political issues that involved the races were told partly through the origins.
Having more of the races in the overall story, quests and the dialogue would be a perfect solution. More indepth companion story, like personal talks about their origin if they are an elve, dwarf or kossith would also give more background.

Origin stories itself are the best imho though........

In a fantasy contest is already sad not have the chance to use an Elf, a Dwarf or other races. in a lore ad DA, where there are so many cultural differences, more than phisical, is almost a chrime.

is like going in a pub and take a glass of water. Is sad and cheap, a very much squalid.

[daffl5]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Bioware: LETS HAVE MULTIPLE RACES!
EA: PEOPLE ONLY LIKE HUMAN LEADS!
Bioware: BUT!
EA: I HAVE SPOKEN!

SO TRUE MAN:lol::lol::lol:

[daffl5]

Felya87 wrote...

sjpelkessjpeler wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

I'm not saying it would be impossible that we won't get origins just because there is derivative material from the DA2 expansion... but it certainly doesn't make it anymore likely.

And, again, I think if they were going to make origins for their next game, they would have mentioned it by now, given it was the most requested feature about DA2 (even more than recycled environments or wave combat). I would love to be wrong, but what we've seen so far doesn't seem encouraging to me.

Same here .

In DAO the political issues that involved the races were told partly through the origins.
Having more of the races in the overall story, quests and the dialogue would be a perfect solution. More indepth companion story, like personal talks about their origin if they are an elve, dwarf or kossith would also give more background.

Origin stories itself are the best imho though........

In a fantasy contest is already sad not have the chance to use an Elf, a Dwarf or other races. in a lore ad DA, where there are so many cultural differences, more than phisical, is almost a chrime.

is like going in a pub and take a glass of water. Is sad and cheap, a very much squalid.

true
:happy: