) I can't wait until all the Templars start going through withdrawal. It will be delightful! Bunch of drug addicts trying to make "rational" decisions, yeah right. >
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This thread is LOL goodness!!!! )
I can't wait until all the Templars start going through withdrawal. It will be delightful! Bunch of drug addicts trying to make "rational" decisions, yeah right. >
) I can't wait until all the Templars start going through withdrawal. It will be delightful! Bunch of drug addicts trying to make "rational" decisions, yeah right. >
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Reviewing John Edwards' "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God" for class got me thinking about a Pro-Chantry/Circle Dragon Age version of the sermon...
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The corruption of the heart of man is immoderate and boundless in its fury, and while wicked men live here, [the demonic possession of a single mage] is like fire pent up by the [Order's] restraints, [the abomination let loose] would set on fire the course of nature; and as the heart is now the sink of sin, so if sin was not restrained, it would immediately turn the soul [of Thedas] into a firey oven, or a furnace of fire and brimstone.
It is no security to [illegal mages] for one moment, that there are no visible means of death at hand. It is no security to a natural man, that he is now in health, and that he does not see which way he should now immediately go out of the world by any accident, and that there is no visible danger in any respect in his circumstances.
[Mages] walk over the pit of hell on a rotten covering, and there are innumerable places in this covering so weak that they will not bear their weight, and these places are not seen. The arrows of [possession] fly unseen at noon-day; the sharpest sight cannot discern them.
[Apostate mages'] prudence and care to preserve their own lives, or the care of others to preserve them, do not secure them a moment. To this [...] universal experience bears testimony. There is this clear evidence that men's own wisdom is no security to them from [possession]; that if it were otherwise we should see some difference between the wise and [talented enchanters] of the world, and others, with regard to their liableness to early and unexpected death: but how is it in fact? Eccles. 2:16. "How dieth the wise man? even as the fool."
All [apostates mages'] pains and contrivance which they use to escape [possession], while they continue to [fight the champions of the just], and so remain [at risk], do not secure them from [possession] one moment. Almost every [mage] that hears of [possession] flatters himself that he shall escape it; he depends upon himself for his own security; he flatters himself in what he has done, in what he is now doing, or what he intends to do. Every one lays out matters in his own mind how he shall avoid [the demons of the fade], and flatters himself that he contrives well for himself, and that his schemes will not fail. They hear indeed that there are but few [survivors outside the Circle's protection], and that the [greatest number of apostates] that have died heretofore are [lost to demons]; but each one imagines that he lays out matters better for his own escape than others have done. He does not intend to come to that place of torment; he says within himself, that he intends to take effectual care, and to order matters so for himself as not to fail.
But the foolish children of men miserably delude themselves in their own schemes, and in confidence in their own strength and wisdom; they trust to nothing but a shadow. The greater part of those who heretofore have lived under the same means of grace, and are now dead, are undoubtedly [taken by demons]; and it was not because they were not as wise as those who are now alive: it was not because they did not lay out matters as well for themselves to secure their own escape. If we could speak with them, and inquire of them, one by one, whether they expected, when alive, and when they used to hear about [possession], ever to be the subjects of misery: we doubtless, should hear one and another reply, "No, I never intended to [be taken]: I had laid out matters otherwise in my mind; I thought I should contrive well for myself -- I thought my scheme good. I intended to take effectual care; but it came upon me unexpected; I did not look for it at that time, and in that manner; it came as a thief -- [Demons] outwitted me: [The Maker's wrath was too quick for me]. Oh, my cursed foolishness! I was flattering myself, and pleasing myself with vain dreams of what I would do hereafter; and when I was saying, Peace and safety, then sudden destruction came upon me."
[...]
[Like the Magisters of Tevinter], your wickedness makes you as it were heavy as lead, and to tend downwards with great weight and pressure towards [the abyss]; and if [the Maker should curse you], you would immediately sink and swiftly descend and plunge into the bottomless gulf, and your healthy constitution, and your own care and prudence, and best contrivance, and all your righteousness, would have no more influence to uphold you and keep you from [the abyss], than a spider's web would have to stop a falling rock. Were it not for the sovereign pleasure of the [Maker], [Thedas] would not bear you one moment; for you are a burden to it; the creation groans with you; the creature is made subject to the bondage of your corruption, not willingly; the sun does not willingly shine upon you to give you light to serve sin; [Thedas] does not willingly yield her increase to satisfy your lusts; nor is it willingly a stage for your wickedness to be acted upon; the air does not willingly serve you for breath to maintain the flame of life in your vitals, while you spend your life in the service of [demons]. [The Maker's] creatures are good, and were made for men to serve [the Maker] with, and do not willingly subserve to any other purpose, and groan when they are abused to purposes so directly contrary to their nature and end. And the world would spew you out, were it not for the sovereign hand of [the Chantry] who hath subjected [you] in hope. There are the black clouds of [the Maker's] wrath now hanging directly over your heads, full of the dreadful storm, and big with thunder; and were it not for the restraining hand of [the Maker], it would immediately burst forth upon you.
[...]
O [mage]! Consider the fearful danger you are in: [...] You hang by a slender thread, with the flames of [possession] flashing about it, and ready every moment to singe it, and burn it asunder; and you have no interest in any Mediator, and nothing to lay hold of to save yourself, nothing to keep off the flames of [possession], nothing of your own, nothing that you ever have done, nothing that you can do, to induce [the Maker] to spare you one moment.
Now [the Chantry] stands ready to pity you; this is a day of mercy; you may cry now with some encouragement of obtaining mercy. But when once the day of mercy is past, your most lamentable and dolorous cries and shrieks will be in vain; you will be wholly lost and thrown away of [the Maker], as to any regard to your welfare. [The Maker] will have no other use to put you to, but to suffer misery; you shall be continued in being to no other end; for you will be a vessel of wrath fitted to destruction; and there will be no other use of this vessel, but to be filled full of wrath.
[...]
There is reason to think, that there are many [hidden apostate mages at this gathering] now hearing this discourse, that will actually be the subjects of this very misery to all eternity. We know not who they are, or in what seats they sit, or what thoughts they now have. It may be they are now at ease, and hear all these things without much disturbance, and are now flattering themselves that they are not the persons, promising themselves that they shall escape [possession]. If we knew that there was one person, and but one, in the whole [gathering], that was to be the subject of this misery, what an awful thing would it be to think of!
If we knew who it was, what an awful sight would it be to see such a person! How might all the rest of the [mages] lift up a lamentable and bitter cry over him! [...]And it would be a wonder, if some that are now present should not be in [taken hold of by demons] in a very short time, even before this year is out. And it would be no wonder if some [apostates], that now sit here, in some seats of this meeting-house, in health, quiet and secure, should be [taken] before tomorrow morning. Those [mages] that finally continue in a natural condition, that shall keep from [possession] longest will be there in a little time! your damnation does not slumber; it will come swiftly, and, in all probability, very suddenly upon many of you. You have reason to wonder that you are not already [the slave of some demon]. It is doubtless the case of some whom you have seen and known, that never deserved [possession] more than you, and that heretofore appeared as likely to have been now alive as you. Their case is past all hope; they are crying in extreme misery and perfect despair; but here you are in the land of the living and in the house of [the Maker and holy Andraste], and have an opportunity to obtain salvation. What would not those poor damned hopeless souls give for one day's opportunity such as you now enjoy!
And now you have an extraordinary opportunity, a day wherein [Andraste] has thrown the door of mercy wide open, and stands in calling and crying with a loud voice to poor sinners; a day wherein many are flocking to [the Circle], and pressing into the [city of the Maker]. Many are daily coming from the east, west, north and south; many that were very lately in the same miserable condition that you are in, are now in a happy state, with their hearts filled with love to him who has loved them, and washed them from their sins in his own blood, and rejoicing in hope of the glory of [the Maker]. How awful is it to be left behind at such a day! To see so many others feasting, while you are pining and perishing! To see so many rejoicing and singing for joy of heart, while you have cause to mourn for sorrow of heart, and howl for vexation of spirit! How can you rest one moment in such a condition? Are not your souls as precious as the souls of the [mages of Fereldan], where they are flocking from day to day to [the Chantry]?
And you, young men, and young women, will you neglect this precious season which you now enjoy, when so many others of your age are renouncing all youthful vanities, and flocking to [the Circle]? You especially have now an extraordinary opportunity; but if you neglect it, it will soon be with you as with those persons who spent all the precious days of youth in sin, and are now come to such a dreadful pass in blindness and hardness. -- And you, [children of illegal magic], do not you know that you are [at risk of possession], to bear the dreadful wrath of [the Maker], who is now angry with you every day and every night? Will you be content to be the children of [demons], when so many other [mage] children in the land are [secured by the watchful eye of the Order], and become the holy and happy children of [the Maker]?
[...]
Mages in the Hands of Hungry Demons
- Sermon given by Brother Edwards, 9:40 Dragon Age
[...]
The corruption of the heart of man is immoderate and boundless in its fury, and while wicked men live here, [the demonic possession of a single mage] is like fire pent up by the [Order's] restraints, [the abomination let loose] would set on fire the course of nature; and as the heart is now the sink of sin, so if sin was not restrained, it would immediately turn the soul [of Thedas] into a firey oven, or a furnace of fire and brimstone.
It is no security to [illegal mages] for one moment, that there are no visible means of death at hand. It is no security to a natural man, that he is now in health, and that he does not see which way he should now immediately go out of the world by any accident, and that there is no visible danger in any respect in his circumstances.
[Mages] walk over the pit of hell on a rotten covering, and there are innumerable places in this covering so weak that they will not bear their weight, and these places are not seen. The arrows of [possession] fly unseen at noon-day; the sharpest sight cannot discern them.
[Apostate mages'] prudence and care to preserve their own lives, or the care of others to preserve them, do not secure them a moment. To this [...] universal experience bears testimony. There is this clear evidence that men's own wisdom is no security to them from [possession]; that if it were otherwise we should see some difference between the wise and [talented enchanters] of the world, and others, with regard to their liableness to early and unexpected death: but how is it in fact? Eccles. 2:16. "How dieth the wise man? even as the fool."
All [apostates mages'] pains and contrivance which they use to escape [possession], while they continue to [fight the champions of the just], and so remain [at risk], do not secure them from [possession] one moment. Almost every [mage] that hears of [possession] flatters himself that he shall escape it; he depends upon himself for his own security; he flatters himself in what he has done, in what he is now doing, or what he intends to do. Every one lays out matters in his own mind how he shall avoid [the demons of the fade], and flatters himself that he contrives well for himself, and that his schemes will not fail. They hear indeed that there are but few [survivors outside the Circle's protection], and that the [greatest number of apostates] that have died heretofore are [lost to demons]; but each one imagines that he lays out matters better for his own escape than others have done. He does not intend to come to that place of torment; he says within himself, that he intends to take effectual care, and to order matters so for himself as not to fail.
But the foolish children of men miserably delude themselves in their own schemes, and in confidence in their own strength and wisdom; they trust to nothing but a shadow. The greater part of those who heretofore have lived under the same means of grace, and are now dead, are undoubtedly [taken by demons]; and it was not because they were not as wise as those who are now alive: it was not because they did not lay out matters as well for themselves to secure their own escape. If we could speak with them, and inquire of them, one by one, whether they expected, when alive, and when they used to hear about [possession], ever to be the subjects of misery: we doubtless, should hear one and another reply, "No, I never intended to [be taken]: I had laid out matters otherwise in my mind; I thought I should contrive well for myself -- I thought my scheme good. I intended to take effectual care; but it came upon me unexpected; I did not look for it at that time, and in that manner; it came as a thief -- [Demons] outwitted me: [The Maker's wrath was too quick for me]. Oh, my cursed foolishness! I was flattering myself, and pleasing myself with vain dreams of what I would do hereafter; and when I was saying, Peace and safety, then sudden destruction came upon me."
[...]
[Like the Magisters of Tevinter], your wickedness makes you as it were heavy as lead, and to tend downwards with great weight and pressure towards [the abyss]; and if [the Maker should curse you], you would immediately sink and swiftly descend and plunge into the bottomless gulf, and your healthy constitution, and your own care and prudence, and best contrivance, and all your righteousness, would have no more influence to uphold you and keep you from [the abyss], than a spider's web would have to stop a falling rock. Were it not for the sovereign pleasure of the [Maker], [Thedas] would not bear you one moment; for you are a burden to it; the creation groans with you; the creature is made subject to the bondage of your corruption, not willingly; the sun does not willingly shine upon you to give you light to serve sin; [Thedas] does not willingly yield her increase to satisfy your lusts; nor is it willingly a stage for your wickedness to be acted upon; the air does not willingly serve you for breath to maintain the flame of life in your vitals, while you spend your life in the service of [demons]. [The Maker's] creatures are good, and were made for men to serve [the Maker] with, and do not willingly subserve to any other purpose, and groan when they are abused to purposes so directly contrary to their nature and end. And the world would spew you out, were it not for the sovereign hand of [the Chantry] who hath subjected [you] in hope. There are the black clouds of [the Maker's] wrath now hanging directly over your heads, full of the dreadful storm, and big with thunder; and were it not for the restraining hand of [the Maker], it would immediately burst forth upon you.
[...]
O [mage]! Consider the fearful danger you are in: [...] You hang by a slender thread, with the flames of [possession] flashing about it, and ready every moment to singe it, and burn it asunder; and you have no interest in any Mediator, and nothing to lay hold of to save yourself, nothing to keep off the flames of [possession], nothing of your own, nothing that you ever have done, nothing that you can do, to induce [the Maker] to spare you one moment.
Now [the Chantry] stands ready to pity you; this is a day of mercy; you may cry now with some encouragement of obtaining mercy. But when once the day of mercy is past, your most lamentable and dolorous cries and shrieks will be in vain; you will be wholly lost and thrown away of [the Maker], as to any regard to your welfare. [The Maker] will have no other use to put you to, but to suffer misery; you shall be continued in being to no other end; for you will be a vessel of wrath fitted to destruction; and there will be no other use of this vessel, but to be filled full of wrath.
[...]
There is reason to think, that there are many [hidden apostate mages at this gathering] now hearing this discourse, that will actually be the subjects of this very misery to all eternity. We know not who they are, or in what seats they sit, or what thoughts they now have. It may be they are now at ease, and hear all these things without much disturbance, and are now flattering themselves that they are not the persons, promising themselves that they shall escape [possession]. If we knew that there was one person, and but one, in the whole [gathering], that was to be the subject of this misery, what an awful thing would it be to think of!
If we knew who it was, what an awful sight would it be to see such a person! How might all the rest of the [mages] lift up a lamentable and bitter cry over him! [...]And it would be a wonder, if some that are now present should not be in [taken hold of by demons] in a very short time, even before this year is out. And it would be no wonder if some [apostates], that now sit here, in some seats of this meeting-house, in health, quiet and secure, should be [taken] before tomorrow morning. Those [mages] that finally continue in a natural condition, that shall keep from [possession] longest will be there in a little time! your damnation does not slumber; it will come swiftly, and, in all probability, very suddenly upon many of you. You have reason to wonder that you are not already [the slave of some demon]. It is doubtless the case of some whom you have seen and known, that never deserved [possession] more than you, and that heretofore appeared as likely to have been now alive as you. Their case is past all hope; they are crying in extreme misery and perfect despair; but here you are in the land of the living and in the house of [the Maker and holy Andraste], and have an opportunity to obtain salvation. What would not those poor damned hopeless souls give for one day's opportunity such as you now enjoy!
And now you have an extraordinary opportunity, a day wherein [Andraste] has thrown the door of mercy wide open, and stands in calling and crying with a loud voice to poor sinners; a day wherein many are flocking to [the Circle], and pressing into the [city of the Maker]. Many are daily coming from the east, west, north and south; many that were very lately in the same miserable condition that you are in, are now in a happy state, with their hearts filled with love to him who has loved them, and washed them from their sins in his own blood, and rejoicing in hope of the glory of [the Maker]. How awful is it to be left behind at such a day! To see so many others feasting, while you are pining and perishing! To see so many rejoicing and singing for joy of heart, while you have cause to mourn for sorrow of heart, and howl for vexation of spirit! How can you rest one moment in such a condition? Are not your souls as precious as the souls of the [mages of Fereldan], where they are flocking from day to day to [the Chantry]?
And you, young men, and young women, will you neglect this precious season which you now enjoy, when so many others of your age are renouncing all youthful vanities, and flocking to [the Circle]? You especially have now an extraordinary opportunity; but if you neglect it, it will soon be with you as with those persons who spent all the precious days of youth in sin, and are now come to such a dreadful pass in blindness and hardness. -- And you, [children of illegal magic], do not you know that you are [at risk of possession], to bear the dreadful wrath of [the Maker], who is now angry with you every day and every night? Will you be content to be the children of [demons], when so many other [mage] children in the land are [secured by the watchful eye of the Order], and become the holy and happy children of [the Maker]?
[...]
Mages in the Hands of Hungry Demons
- Sermon given by Brother Edwards, 9:40 Dragon Age
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*pokes dead thread with stick to see if it will come back to life*
seriously, that can't be ALL you guys had left, can it? it was getting fun to watch!
seriously, that can't be ALL you guys had left, can it? it was getting fun to watch!
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I stand with the Templar Order. We must stop these abominations no matter the cost.
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labargegrrrl wrote...
*pokes dead thread with stick to see if it will come back to life*
seriously, that can't be ALL you guys had left, can it? it was getting fun to watch!
Though I happily aknowledge there are pro templars ( both reasonable and insane zealots ), they are very much in the minority compared to pro mages ( not the ones who want them to rule everything but the ones who feel they deserve their freedom or well more of it). This is just my opinion of cours and I can only try to judge by dragon age forums and people with who I have discussed the game(s ).
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Remember it is they who struck first. When the mages beg the templars to show mercy, to stay our hands, remember it is they who asked for this war.
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I support this... its hilarious (and secretly i hate everyone)
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i want the option to be able to have assassination quests on the templars that are anti-mage
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The Templars lost their way, they need a Dalish clan keeper as Knight Commander
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The Maker love Mages, because there are new Mages born everyday in Thedas...including Templar sons and daughters...Templar just cannot against the will of The Maker
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Nizaris1 wrote...
The Maker love Mages, because there are new Mages born everyday in Thedas...including Templar sons and daughters...Templar just cannot against the will of The Maker
Oh sure, that makes sense. In fact, the Maker loves mages so much that he turned a group of them into darkspawn when they tried to invade his city.
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Face of Evil wrote...
Nizaris1 wrote...
The Maker love Mages, because there are new Mages born everyday in Thedas...including Templar sons and daughters...Templar just cannot against the will of The Maker
Oh sure, that makes sense. In fact, the Maker loves mages so much that he turned a group of them into darkspawn when they tried to invade his city.
Someone actually believes the chantry version.
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Face of Evil wrote...
Nizaris1 wrote...
The Maker love Mages, because there are new Mages born everyday in Thedas...including Templar sons and daughters...Templar just cannot against the will of The Maker
Oh sure, that makes sense. In fact, the Maker loves mages so much that he turned a group of them into darkspawn when they tried to invade his city.
The Blight is the Maker punishment to mankind, no one can stop the Blight, Grey Warden only can postpone the utter destruction, Archedemon will always live again and bring another Blight. The Chantry are hypocrites who think the Maker love them while they themselves defying the Maker by supporting Grey Warden, so they create lies saying darkspawn are cursed Mages who defile the Golden City, Chantry propaganda
I think the Blight is the Maker punishment to the ones who oppress Mages
Edit : Maybe it was the Templar who invade the Golden City, who know? Few darkspawn are Mage-type anyway, most ar armored
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You know I always thought that lol if Darkspawn are corrupted mages, then why are they 95% warriors and rouges.
Anyway everyone knows by now that everytime Flemeth laughs or speaks in riddles, a darkspawn is born.
Anyway everyone knows by now that everytime Flemeth laughs or speaks in riddles, a darkspawn is born.
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DarkKnightHolmes wrote...
Someone actually believes the chantry version.
Well, considering I killed one of the corrupted magister lords who spoke of travelling to the Black City, i would say that the Chantry version now has a bit more credence to it.
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You know I always thought that lol if Darkspawn are corrupted mages, then why are they 95% warriors and rouges.
Yeah, because they are originated from Templars, the only faction that don't have Mage-class is the Templar and Dwarves. In DA2 there are Rogue-class Templar.
So i think, maybe once upon a time a go, Templar and Dwarves forcing a mage to open up the Veil, then they go into Golden City to meet the Maker themselves. The Maker got pissed off because the Templars disturbing The Maker watching spirits and demons having a football match, then The Maker cursed them all...later the Chantry blame the Mages
Edit : It is all started due to a chellenge from the Dwarves, they don't believe in the Maker, so Templar want to prove it to them....
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Terrorize69 wrote...
You know I always thought that lol if Darkspawn are corrupted mages, then why are they 95% warriors and rouges.
I wasn't aware that the majority of darkspawn were cosmetics.
Most of the original magisters who invaded the Black City are now long since dead. Corypheus may have been the only one left. Darkspawn don't reproduce sexually, so none of them are directly descended from the actual corrupted magisters.
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So i think, maybe once upon a time a go, Templar and Dwarves forcing a mage to open up the Veil, then they go into Golden City to meet the Maker themselves. The Maker got pissed off because the Templars disturbing The Maker watching spirits and demons having a football match, then The Maker cursed them all...later the Chantry blame the Mages
The Templar Order was founded after the fall of the Tevinter Imperium.
Nope. Sorry. Mage did it. Mages tainted the world.
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Most of the original magisters who invaded the Black City are now long since dead. Corypheus may have been the only one left. Darkspawn don't reproduce sexually, so none of them are directly descended from the actual corrupted magisters.
If so...how come corrupted HUMAN Magisters produce dwarves darkspawn offspring? (The Genlocks)
Edit : sorry, i misreading your post...but Darkspawn do reproduce sexually, the BROODMOTHERS
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Nizaris1 wrote...
Edit : sorry, i misreading your post...but Darkspawn do reproduce sexually, the BROODMOTHERS
That isn't sexual reproduction. Broodmothers are created through a torturous process of force-feeding captured women darkspawn blood and raw flesh until they mutate. All that matters is the race of the prisoner turned into a broodmother, as that corresponds to what kind of darkspawn she will birth. Broodmothers do that independently without any assistance from the darkspawn.
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Darkspawn are produced via broodmothers, remember? Broodmothers are created through a torturous process of force-feeding captured women darkspawn blood and raw flesh; those few who survive eventually mutate and begin producing darkspawn that correspond to the broodmother's race.
So a dwarven broodmother births genlocks, a human broodmother creates hurlocks and a qunari broodmother produces ogres.
You said earlier darkspawn don't reproduce sexually...
yes, they come from Broodmothers who mutated, then those Broodmothers got raped before they can produce darkspawns.
Broodmothers still need blob blob from darkspawn to produce baby darkspawn...
so now, how come HUMAN corrupted magisters producing genlocks from dwarves broodmothers by HUMAN blob blob?
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Nizaris1 wrote...
yes, they come from Broodmothers who mutated, then those Broodmothers got raped before they can produce darkspawns.
It's never been outright stated that broodmothers are raped by darkspawn. Hespith suggests that in her poem that they were "violated," but that could mean a lot of things; I'm pretty sure you would feel violated if you were force-fed darkspawn blood. Hespith is also more than a little crazy at that point.
It's not even clear whether the darkspawn have sexual organs. Have you ever seen a darkspawn's genitals?
Anyways, that's how the magisters eventually gave rise to the various races of darkspawn; they corrupted captured female prisoners of various races, turned them into broodmothers and it took off from there.
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It's never been outright stated that broodmothers are raped by darkspawn. Hespith suggests that in her poem, but Hespith is also out of her mind and given to poetic licence.
It's not even clear whether the darkspawn have sexual organs. Have you ever seen a darkspawn's genitals? As far as I know, they've got nothing between their legs.
Anyways, that's how the magisters eventually gave rise to the various races of darkspawn; they corrupted captured female prisoners of various races and it took off from there.
First day, they come and catch everyone.
Second day, they beat us and eat some for meat.
Third day, the men are all gnawed on again.
Fourth day, we wait and fear for our fate.
Fifth day, they return and it's another girl's turn.
Sixth day, her screams we hear in our dreams.
Seventh day, she grew as in her mouth they spew.
Eighth day, we hate it as she is violated.
Ninth day, she grins and devours her kin.
Now she does feast, as she's become the beast."
Now you lay and wait, for their screams will haunt you in your dreams.
If darkspawn is not produced sexually, how they are produced? Women cannot give birth without male blob blob, even it is a mutation....except Mary who have miraculous birth of Jesus Christ
So if you want to say darkspawn are from miraculous birth, then it is a miracle from the Maker, isn't it?
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That still doesn't explain that IF darkspawn were created from corrupted mages, why their descendants arnt magically gifted. Those first darkspawn would of used broodmothers, created from magical tainted blood, the broodmothers would of birthed magically gifted darkspawn. And the cycle would continue, but they didn't.
Modifié par Terrorize69, 19 octobre 2012 - 10:47 .
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Nizaris1 wrote...
If darkspawn is not produced sexually, how they are produced? Women cannot give birth without male blob blob, even it is a mutation....except Mary who have miraculous birth of Jesus Christ
So if you want to say darkspawn are from miraculous birth, then it is a miracle from the Maker, isn't it?
Like I said, broodmothers produce darkspawn independently. They just pop them out like the Alien Queen from, well, Aliens. A single broodmother can produce hundreds of darkspawn before it dies.
Here's where you're making a mistake: you're assuming that a broodmother needs to have sex with a genlock to create more genlocks. But if that were the case, then how could genlocks come into existence when there were NO genlocks to begin with? It's the old chicken and the egg problem.
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That still doesn't explain that IF darkspawn were created from corrupted mages, why their descendants arnt magically gifted. Those first darkspawn would of used broodmothers, created from magical tainted blood, the broodmothers would of birthed magically gifted darkspawn. And the cycle would continue, but they didn't.
Again, we're not talking about sexual reproduction here. Human children inherit traits from their parents, but darkspawn are not human. They don't even have parents to get their genes.
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Like I said, broodmothers produce darkspawn independently. They just pop them out like the Alien Queen from, well, Aliens. A single broodmother can produce hundreds of darkspawn before it dies.
Here's where you're making a mistake: you're assuming that a broodmother needs to have sex with a genlock to create more genlocks. But if that were the case, then how could genlocks come into existence when there were NO genlocks to begin with? It's the old chicken and the egg problem.
Broodmothers producing darkspawn by sex, so a genlock must rape dwarf Broodmother to produce genlock, thousands of genlocks.
If Broodmothers don't produce darkspawn sexually, why need women anyway? Why not kidnapping men, then making them Broodfathers, Darkspawns can spoof out from them too, no need sex.
Edit : Darkspawn may come out from Broodfathers mutated ass....
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