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[Isocadia]

Basicly what the title says. Is there a video card like that. Because right now my ATI radeon 9600 x1050 series ( version 9.11 ) doesn't work.

Isocadia

[Gorath Alpha]

It's not supposed to be able to; after all, that design card is six years old now.  You just can't expect to keep on using the same old antique hardware  while the games keep on improving and leaving the old junk behind: 

Windows XP Minimum Specifications
OS: Windows XP with SP3
CPU: Intel Core 2 Single (or equivalent) running at 1.6Ghz or greater
AMD 64 (or equivalent) running at 2.0Ghz or greater
RAM: 1 GB or more
Video: ATI Radeon X850 256MB or greater (either this is wrong)
NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT 128MB or greater (or this one is wrong)
DVD ROM (Physical copy)
20 GB HD space

(Note: IMO, the two above should be the Radeon X800 Pro, and the 6800 Vanilla)

Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 27 décembre 2009 - 06:27 .

[Gorath Alpha]

As long as I have this dupe sitting here, with no way to correct it, let's add a link to the Card Rankings thread, shall we?

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/58/index/128343

Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 27 décembre 2009 - 06:26 .

[Isocadia]

Thanks, sadly. Now I will need to update my entire computer ( new motherboard ). So I hope I will get the money soon to play the game.



Isocadia

[Gorath Alpha]

Sometimes, people identify themselves emotionally with their old PCs, and they'll be offended to have the old stuff described as junk.  The fact is, however, that the Radeon 9600 series really needed to have the number "300" or "400" in the name, but ATI wasn't associating their numbering with the performance yet, and they were replacing the 9500s with the 9600s, no matter that the 9500s had been much more powerful.  They were too loud, and drew too much current to fit into a low performance branded PC, and the "600" only meant that the newer cards were in fact newer. 

The fact is, the 9600's design soldiered on for another several years filling a bottom end slot at a bottom end price. 

All of the Xn00 cards from the X1050 through the X600 were all actually just 9600s, with the x300 as the original very bottom one.  After the last of the cheapest 9600s were sold out, the old die design couldn't be re-used, because the FAB plant had moved on down from the old  130 or 150 nm wafers.  The X300 dies were modified, turning the cards back from PCIe to AGP, and the name "9550" was tacked onto them.  They were made right along with the Xn00s, and when the new X1300 turned out to be too expensive to produce and sell for $30 (that one probably should've carried an "X1500" name, in fact), the X1050 was cloned from the worst of the X300s, the SE.

The 9550 and X1050 remained in production until the HD 2n00s were in series production, but were never given any functionality improvements (after all, for only $30, that's not what the buyers were looking for).  By today, that 2003 design does amount to not much better than junk, with the onboard chips from ATI and nVIDIA both being better than it was, now.

Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 27 décembre 2009 - 07:55 .

[Isocadia]

Well, just 1 more question. In that list, it says NVidia Geforce 9800 series, does that include the GeForce 9800 GT, because later in the list I see some GT's listed alone.

[Gorath Alpha]

When I was dealing with the original lists, all of the sub-variants had their own separate entries.  I chose to lump them together if they were at the extreme top end (and if I intended to include the bottom end at any point, that area would also be combined). 

I was most interested in the range of cards close to Minimum Requirement for the complete breakout of sub-variants, so the GT and Pro models do show up there all alone.  NTK's lists are really huge, with many models included that very few statesiders ever saw, many that hardly anyone ever saw, etc. 

Gorath
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[Isocadia]

So the GeForce 9800 GT is supported.

[Gorath Alpha]

It is, but is only available for PCIe, and given the extreme age of the 9600 series (and the subject title of the thread), I believed that your system was almost certainly an AGP video PC, not PCIe.  That new video bus came out the following year, with the Xn00 Radeons, and the Geforce 6n00s. 

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 28 décembre 2009 - 01:48 .

[Wyle Coyote]

Yes you can play with old systems!



I play on my ancient Dell desktop that I've upgraded over the years. It has an AGP bus that runs at a maximum of AGP 4x.



Here are my specs:

OS: Windows XP with SP3

CPU: Intel P4 Hyper-threaded running at 3.06Ghz

RAM: 1 GB of RDRAM

Video: ATI Radeon HD3650 AGP 512MB DDR2



There is an occasional stutter, but nothing that makes it unplayable or irritates me enough to not play.

[Gorath Alpha]

My preferred recommendation is the HD 4650 / 4670, becuase they have smaller current requirements, a resultant smaller heat signature, higher performance (the HD 4670 is very close to what an HD 3850 can do, unless the screen real estate and pixel count are very large).

However, the penalty for staying with AGP has been getting worse, as the number of sales for AGP have fallen so low lately. Where a PCIe version might be had, from a good brand, for $43 after rebate, the AGP version is closer to $90, no rebates, no free shipping (and the AGP versions of the HD 3650 are really scarce now).

Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 28 décembre 2009 - 01:22 .

[Isocadia]

Well, I have been saving money for a new computer ( since this one sucks ). And this game just gavethe final push. You can't stay with AGP video cards. It's like making a new album but only release it on a LP ( old disk, its LP in dutch ). So thank you very much for your help and I hope that soon I will be able to play this game.



Isocadia

[SirDremor]

http://www.hisdigita...oduct1-47.shtml



Of course, they're not cheap, but HD4670 is actually not a bad card...

I wonder, if DAO will support it though...

[Vadaghar]

SirDremor wrote...

http://www.hisdigita...oduct1-47.shtml

Of course, they're not cheap, but HD4670 is actually not a bad card...
I wonder, if DAO will support it though...

I'm using an HIS HD 4670 IceQ Native HDMI 1GB (128bit) DDR3 AGP card right now, and the game runs smooth as silk. Running graphics and textures on the High settings and haven't had any problems. If you do decide to get an HIS card though, DON'T use the drivers for the card on the HIS website. You're better off just going to AMD's website and downloading the latest Catalyst Hotfix.

Oh yeah, and I'd suggest at least a 500 watt power supply. The minimum requirement is only a 450 watt, but the extra 50 watts DO make a difference, or at least they did for me.

EDIT- Forgot to mention that I'm also using the ATI Overdrive to overclock my GPU, and I'm running the game at 1680 x 1050 resolution. (Card can go higher, but unfortunately my monitor doesn't support anything beyond that.)

Modifié par Vadaghar, 29 décembre 2009 - 12:22 .