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[mya11]

pff pathetic question !!

[Herr Uhl]

Pelle6666 wrote...

Because he is a blank piece of paper on which they can write what ever they want an project all their personal preferences.

There are loads of people in the DA universe that are that, what sets him apart is mainly that he professed romantic interest in the female mage. Forbidden love and all that.

[Battlebloodmage]

Wulfram wrote...

Cullen could be interesting if they address his complicity in the Annullment and other actions of Meredith, rather than giving him a free pass because he switched sides at the last minute.

Being tormented by guilt wouldn't make him any less appealling to the fan girls, I'd guess.

It's part of his appeal for me. I kinda like the fixing-a-broken-man angle with him.

Modifié par Battlebloodmage, 24 septembre 2012 - 12:12 .

[Sable Rhapsody]

Zkyire wrote...
I'd imagine for the same reason us hetero guys like him too.

He hated the Mages for what the did in DA:O, but afterwards recognised that they weren't all like that.

And in DA2, amidst all the insanity, he managed to keep a level head on his shoulders. While the other Templars blindly followed Meredith's murderous rampage, Cullen actually stood up to her.

This.  I found him very likeable in DA2.

Never understood the sex appeal, though.  Maybe just because he creeped the hell out of me in DA:O.  Tormented and obsessed isn't usually my type.  

[R2s Muse]

bob_20000 wrote...

FIRST, he tries to kill a bunch of mages in DA:O.
THEN, he does absolutely nothing in DA2 (basically just there as a fan service)
So what did he do? Why is he so sexy? What's the big deal? To me, he's a very blank, emotionless, zero-dimensional character. HOW IS HE SO CHARMING?

Oh my stars, another of these threads... maybe find one of the others and read there??

In short, he's a fascinating character who, despite his limited screentime, has gone through a rollercoaster of character evolution through both games and his inner struggles epitomize one of the central controversies of the Dragon  Age world, the mage-templar debate. In the first game  you saw him go from mage sympathizer to someone who is now a victim of those very mages, tortured and suffering. In the second game, he is still recovering and yet spent the game with a growing uncertainty in whether Meredith's Circle follows the true principles of the Order. Regardless of which side you choose, he ultimately helps overthrow her in a bid to stand up for what he thinks the Order truly stands for, which isn't killing mages outright but protecting them as he protects others from them. He's seen both extremes of what a Circle can be and tries to find the moderate road.  Even DG has called him "the voice of sanity." All this sets him up to  be a remarkable window into the mage-templar conflict in the future, making him a fascinating option for companion.

All that's independent of the fact that he's smokin' hot, but then who isn't among the LIs.

So, I think if you imagine he did nothing in DA2, you may want to look again. If you don't find him interesting or charming, well, different strokes for different folks. But it's not just ravening fangirls who think he'd be a good addition as a companion.

[Get Magna Carter]

It was charming the way his shyness and sense of duty would lead him to run a mile when a female mage he fancied started flirting...(and you could chase him through the tower)

[Wulfram]

R2s Muse wrote...

Regardless of which side you choose, he ultimately helps overthrow her in a bid to stand up for what he thinks the Order truly stands for, which isn't killing mages outright but protecting them as he protects others from them.

Except if you side with the Mages all he really stands up for is not killing the Player Character.  Which seems a strange thing to balk at, when Meredith has ordered the deaths of loads of innocent men women and children with far less justification

Modifié par Wulfram, 24 septembre 2012 - 12:40 .

[RedWulfi]

Actually in DA2 he has second thoughts on mages. You can even talk to him about the way Mages are handled. And that if they had better learning and understanding they wouldnt go bat**** crazy.
He tries to spare 3 mages when they beg for mercy at your feet.

[FDrage]

R2s Muse wrote...

He's seen both extremes of what a Circle can be and tries to find the moderate road.  Even DG has called him "the voice of sanity." All this sets him up to  be a remarkable window into the mage-templar conflict in the future, making him a fascinating option for companion.

That I think is a good example on why Cullen could be a good companion (no not taking about LI here). We got plenty of opportunities to look into all the various facets of "beging a mage in Thedas" with Morrigan, Wynn, Merrill, Fenris, etc. but not as much from the "templar" / "oppose mage" side.

[Icinix]

Because his first name is Edward and he is a vampire.

..and apparently women like to be emotionally abused by men 7 times their age.

[R2s Muse]

Wulfram wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Regardless of which side you choose, he ultimately helps overthrow her in a bid to stand up for what he thinks the Order truly stands for, which isn't killing mages outright but protecting them as he protects others from them.

Except if you side with the Mages all he really stands up for is not killing the Player Character.  Which seems a strange thing to balk at, when Meredith has ordered the deaths of loads of innocent men women and children with far less justification

Well, I think part of that is just interpretation. He does in fact say the same thing in both cases. "This is not what the Order stands for. Knight-Commander, step down!" To my mind, it isn't just the killing of one individual, in either ending, but that murdering Hawke is finally the straw that broke the camel's back (ie. the "Last Straw"?) . He finally stands up for the fact that his view of the Order isn't that it runs around exacting corporal punishment whenever it sees fit, exemplified by his conversation when the mages surrender in the pro-templar ending. Yeah, he should have stopped the killing sooner, sure (EDIT: and it's a separate issue to debate whether he actually might have been able...), but I don't think it was ever just about killing one dude/chick.

Modifié par R2s Muse, 24 septembre 2012 - 12:52 .

[R2s Muse]

Icinix wrote...

Because his first name is Edward and he is a vampire.

..and apparently women like to be emotionally abused by men 7 times their age.

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Modifié par R2s Muse, 24 septembre 2012 - 12:54 .

[Icinix]

R2s Muse wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Because his first name is Edward and he is a vampire.

..and apparently women like to be emotionally abused by men 7 times their age.

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HAHAHAHAH! Awesome! Just awesome!

[hexaligned]

OCD, Maladaptive daydreaming, boredom. Take your pick.

[The Elder King]

Rovay wrote...

Because he still comes off as the sanest templar in all of Thedas.

Without considering the pro-mages templars (like Ser Thrask), or the templars who we don't know well enough but seem good people (Ser Otto and Ser Bryant), I think Gregoir is as sane as Cullen, if not more. He's actually a moderate templar.
Cullen would've tranquilized Anders at its seventh escape from the Circle.

Modifié par hhh89, 24 septembre 2012 - 01:21 .

[Vandicus]

hhh89 wrote...

Rovay wrote...

Because he still comes off as the sanest templar in all of Thedas.

Without considering the pro-mages templars (like Ser Thrask), or the templars who we don't know well enough but seem good people (Ser Otto and Ser Bryant), I think Gregoir is as sane as Cullen, if not more. He's actually a moderate templar.
Cullen would've tranquilized Anders at its seventh escape from the Circle.

Didn't Anders sort've prove him right in that case? Just saying. 

[NRieh]

We got plenty of opportunities to look into all the various facets of "beging a mage in Thedas" with Morrigan, Wynn, Merrill, Fenris, etc. but not as much from the "templar" / "oppose mage" side.

C'mon even in Kirkwall we've seen something like dozen of templars. He is not unique in any means. They used him twice in both games - so WHAT?

If you ask me about really unique (ex)templar - it's Alistair, who has his Calling somewhere near(by the way, unless Taint became same cureable as Tranquility). But letting you to romance him twice in series is hardly an option, and he had no 100% Plot Shield back in DAO - so there are some problems.

Some fans just liked Cullen. It's ok - some people just...like some other people. It does not mean they are special in any way. Some love Merrill, some love Anders, some love Cullen..

[The Elder King]

Vandicus wrote...



Didn't Anders sort've prove him right in that case? Just saying. 

Not really, since Anders in DA2 isn't the same Anders of Awakening. Justice/Vengeance influnced him, before and after the merging. He had rage against the Chantry and the Templars, but the spirit between him amplifies his rage and his desire of revenge. And he can't even fight this influence, since in the rivarly path he said that Vengeance is controlling him.

[sunnydxmen]

He the hottest Templar yet.

[nightscrawl]

Nrieh wrote...

I have no idea what's so "hot" about both him and Nathaniel.

To me, Nathaniel and Fenris have a similar appeal. They are both dark and moody, but they come around after they get to know you (the PC).

I'll add though that I would not like either of those men in real life. I would think that they needed to get over themselves. But, this isn't real life, it's Thedas, and minimal exposure to such characters is appealing.

As for Cullen... I wanted to give the poor guy a hug after learning that he still carries a torch my Amell Warden.

[Vandicus]

hhh89 wrote...

Vandicus wrote...



Didn't Anders sort've prove him right in that case? Just saying. 

Not really, since Anders in DA2 isn't the same Anders of Awakening. Justice/Vengeance influnced him, before and after the merging. He had rage against the Chantry and the Templars, but the spirit between him amplifies his rage and his desire of revenge. And he can't even fight this influence, since in the rivarly path he said that Vengeance is controlling him.

Anders chooses to fuse with a spirit(become an abomination) in order to help "save" the mages. Seems sort've inevitable that he would've made a deal with a desire demon or some other form of demon for the power to "save" the mages. Anders' repeated escape attempts(rather than trying to earn more priviliges like the mages who are allowed to travel around) from the already much nicer Fereldan Circle demonstrates high risk behavior. Anders is pretty much the poster boy for why mages shouldn't be free from supervision. He's part of the group that demonstrates what the templars believe to be dangerous behavior, and Anders follows through by committing a heinous act.

Everyone would be better off if he'd been Tranquil'd by Cullen earlier.

[R2s Muse]

Nrieh wrote...

We got plenty of opportunities to look into all the various facets of "beging a mage in Thedas" with Morrigan, Wynn, Merrill, Fenris, etc. but not as much from the "templar" / "oppose mage" side.

C'mon even in Kirkwall we've seen something like dozen of templars. He is not unique in any means. They used him twice in both games - so WHAT?

If you ask me about really unique (ex)templar - it's Alistair, who has his Calling somewhere near(by the way, unless Taint became same cureable as Tranquility). But letting you to romance him twice in series is hardly an option, and he had no 100% Plot Shield back in DAO - so there are some problems.

Some fans just liked Cullen. It's ok - some people just...like some other people. It does not mean they are special in any way. Some love Merrill, some love Anders, some love Cullen..

But not as a companion. Not in a way to see their "side of the story." We've seen a few moderate ones, yes, Greagoir from a certain perspective, that templar in Lothering, Thrask, Keran. But all as NPCs. But, the OP asked about Cullen, so we talk about Cullen.

And, Alistair is not really the poster child for being a templar. One, he never became one. Two, he doesn't really buy their dogma. He's the one who tells you about the whole lyrium control issue and such, for example. I don't think he would provide the same insight as having a real templar on your team.

[Minttymint]

Nrieh wrote...

Some fans just liked Cullen. It's ok - some people just...like some other people. It does not mean they are special in any way. Some love Merrill, some love Anders, some love Cullen..

Exactly, everyone has fans so why do you keep going on about Cullens fans like its worse somehow, like hes not just as good as the other characters you mentioned? Omg like hes an NPC he cant have fans!! ...  Isabela was just an NPC, Merril was just an NPC and yet they turned out to be pretty good companions, no? They now have an intresting background that no-one really thought about before cause they were just NPCs. Cullen has been in two games now, only a selected few NPCs have done that also without becoming companions and most of those NPCs were linked to the story somehow. Weve seen him be sweet, stern, kind, aggresive.. Always doing what he thinks is right and we have seen him change, evolve into a better person than he was when we last saw him. Hes been a victim and the offender. Hes helped the mages and the templars. He has a better personality and background than almost all other NPCs.  If he doesnt deserve to be a companion, that god damnit neither did Merrill or Izzy who were practically nobodys compared to him.

[Reznore57]

He's hot , shy , his voice is like honey , he has emotional scars ( most woman like that kind of things , it's a bit of a challenge ) but he seems to be calm and in control ( not a psycho , always a good thing too.)

Besides he was once in love with a mage , but didn't let it happen because he knew it was doomed.

Which is always nice because we had before :

Alistair : I know i've slept with you but now i'm king i have to dump you , it's my duty.
Zevran :I know i've slept with you but now i have feeling , I'm scared.I need some space.
Anders :I know i've slept with you but now I need to bomb the chantry.Justice is more important.
Fenris : I know i've slept with you , but now I 'm even more traumatized .Leave me alone I need to brood.

[EpicBoot2daFace]

bob_20000 wrote...

FIRST, he tries to kill a bunch of mages in DA:O.
THEN, he does absolutely nothing in DA2 (basically just there as a fan service)
So what did he do? Why is he so sexy? What's the big deal? To me, he's a very blank, emotionless, zero-dimensional character. HOW IS HE SO CHARMING?

Seriously though, BioWare fans are so accustomed to mediocre characters that it no longer makes a difference to them. They'll take anything at this point, including Cullen.