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Why do fangirls love Cullen so much?


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brushyourteeth wrote...

2.) Is this topic really at 8 pages? Really?


Not that surprising. I started a thread on whether or not nudity should be in DA]I[ and i wasn't expecting many replies at all. I was actually expecting most people to say "Wow really, is this all you think about?". But no, the thing got to 12 pages in under two days. And people were actually interested in the topic.

Point is people love this crap.

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Plaintiff wrote...

Why do people like Fenris? Why do people like Merrill? Why do people like Aveline and Saemus and the Arishok? Why do people like Sten, or Wynne? I find little to nothing likeable about those characters and it perplexes me that anyone's opinion should differ from my own, which is obviously the only correct one.

Why does anyone like anyone? It's personal taste. It doesn't matter what reasons people have for liking Cullen because obviously you just don't see those reasons.


I wasn't trying to be rude or anything, I was just asking.
Wait a minute, *reads own post*
Oops... sorry.
By the way, after reading some insults thrown at me, I just ought to let you know that I didn't WANT to use the term 'fangirls'. It's just that I couldn't come up with another term at the time. In hindsight, I should've said 'fanatics' or something even less insulting.

Modifié par bob_20000, 25 septembre 2012 - 05:17 .


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berelinde wrote...

A better question might be how one intriguing character with great growth potential manages to provoke insecure males to begin countless whinge threads.

No one has confirmed Cullen's inclusion in DA3, but one way or another, OP is going to have to face the possibility that the game will include characters that interest others more than him.


Not insecure, it's wierd that anyone would like a character like Cullen he doesnt do anything besides be paranoid and prejudice. The rouge mage offering quests in the city with the reward sack had just as much potential to "grow as a character"   yet you don't see boards about him, and he even had a very silly hat to laugh at.

 you have two counts of flame bait in your post 1.) calling the op insecure 2.) passive agressively calling him selfish.:police: flames bait isn't cool bro.

I am in favor of the OP's post. He asked a legitamite question if you don't have an actual answer don't say anything.

If I asked "why do people like sten?" I could expect the answer 'because  no" or "he's a big softie" but there isn't really a reason to like cullen that I'm aware of, unless youre in to the whole paranoid and prejudice thing.

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Difference is, Sten was a full companion and Cullen hasn't been. If he ever is a companion then there would be more reason/fodder for people to hate him or love him etc.

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We should all be like this dude...

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He's got potential, assuming Bioware actually deigns to give his past involvement in both Annulments some major attention.

To be specific, his complicity in allowing Meredith to be the de facto Viscount of Kirkwall for 3 years and his part in the unjustified Annulment of several hundred mages -- if not a couple thousand due to the influx of mages from Starkhaven.

He needs to be wracked with guilt, if only to make him seem believable given his history. That's from a writer's analysis, but really it's obvious it needs to be done that way.

Plus, fangirls love angst.

And for the love of Christ, make him actually competent instead of oblivious.

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As long as he is a normal and sympathic type of char like almost ever party member in DAO I'm ok if he is present in DA3.

I'm not ok with such a cliché char like almost everybody in DA2, f.e. as female party members we have Merrill the naive child, Isabela the pirate wh_ore, Aveline the man in the body of a woman and Bethany the innocent shrinking violet.

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Alexander1136 wrote...
Not insecure, it's wierd that anyone would like a character like Cullen he doesnt do anything besides be paranoid and prejudice. The rouge mage offering quests in the city with the reward sack had just as much potential to "grow as a character"   yet you don't see boards about him, and he even had a very silly hat to laugh at.

 you have two counts of flame bait in your post 1.) calling the op insecure 2.) passive agressively calling him selfish.:police: flames bait isn't cool bro.

I am in favor of the OP's post. He asked a legitamite question if you don't have an actual answer don't say anything.

If I asked "why do people like sten?" I could expect the answer 'because  no" or "he's a big softie" but there isn't really a reason to like cullen that I'm aware of, unless youre in to the whole paranoid and prejudice thing.



But there are always people who like side characters -- you can definitely see that if you lurk around these boards for a little while. For example, I know people on these boards who were adamantly pushing for Athenril to be upgraded to a LI and she only had two scenes with Hawke. It wasn't like she was anymore developed than Cullen, yet something about her was appealing to some players.

Sometimes peripheral characters can be the most intriguing because you can always create or imagine details about them that you can't with a much more established character.

Don't really see how it is weird.

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brushyourteeth wrote...

2.) Is this topic really at 8 pages? Really?


I actually agree. I replied to someone and BOOM! 8 whole pages forward (WHAT?).

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I'd also state that, based on what he's said in the past, he needs to be very much of a bumbler around women -- or women he finds attractive, I think.

No matter his sexual orientation, he should really just be unable to talk to women without babbling incoherently or blushing and looking away -- while with male characters he's fine around them.

It'd actually be really weird to see Cullen not do that, in all honesty. I mean, that's... pretty much what I've come to expect of him given the Mage Origin and his embarassment about trying to talk to the women of the Rose.

Or maybe he just gets embarassed around really sexual women, and not women in general.

I dunno. I'm not a Cullen expert.

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Perhaps it's just me but I don't see "prejudice" and "hates mages" as reasons to not have him as a companion, considering we've had Fenris and the whole "hates mages" is a potential route you can take your protagonist in.

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

He's got potential, assuming Bioware actually deigns to give his past involvement in both Annulments some major attention.

To be specific, his complicity in allowing Meredith to be the de facto Viscount of Kirkwall for 3 years and his part in the unjustified Annulment of several hundred mages -- if not a couple thousand due to the influx of mages from Starkhaven.

He needs to be wracked with guilt, if only to make him seem believable given his history. That's from a writer's analysis, but really it's obvious it needs to be done that way.

Plus, fangirls love angst.

And for the love of Christ, make him actually competent instead of oblivious.


Agreed. It's something that needs to be addressed, especially with the rape and torture that was supposed to be going on in the Gallows. I doubt he was physically involved in any of that, since DG said that he was one of the nice guys, but I'd want to know if he was aware that it was going on, if so did he do anything to stop it (and if not, why not etc.)

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Because he doesn't appear often and is rather "mysterious", making him the perfect breeding ground for hipster bacteria.

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svenus97 wrote...

Because he doesn't appear often and is rather "mysterious", making him the perfect breeding ground for hipster bacteria.


I dunno, I wouldn't call him particularly mysterious... he seems to think out loud too much to be considered an enigma lol.

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I expect Cullen will be the new Merril in that some people will decry BioWare's radical changes to the character.

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

I'd also state that, based on what he's said in the past, he needs to be very much of a bumbler around women -- or women he finds attractive, I think.


It's been seven to ten years since the mage origin.

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

I'd also state that, based on what he's said in the past, he needs to be very much of a bumbler around women -- or women he finds attractive, I think.

No matter his sexual orientation, he should really just be unable to talk to women without babbling incoherently or blushing and looking away -- while with male characters he's fine around them.

It'd actually be really weird to see Cullen not do that, in all honesty. I mean, that's... pretty much what I've come to expect of him given the Mage Origin and his embarassment about trying to talk to the women of the Rose.

Or maybe he just gets embarassed around really sexual women, and not women in general.

I dunno. I'm not a Cullen expert.

I was more under the impression that the women at the Rose had simply refused to talk to him. I'd have to check the scene again, but I believe the term he uses to describe them is "unhelpful" or "uncooperative", or something along those lines.

He seemed very much altered from his appearance in Origins. The way I interpret it is that, after the trauma he endured at the Ferelden Circle, specifically being tormented with illusions of his female mage crush, he has come to view his sexuality as a weakness, and simply doesn't allow himself to indulge those feelings at all anymore.

I could be wrong, of course.

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because they hate the chantry and he's part of it and somehow that makes sense

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It's been seven to ten years since the mage origin.


He seems to have still been shy around ladies in Enemies Among Us, where he's very bashful about his attempts at talking to the ladies there.

Still, those happen in a relatively subsequent timeline -- roughly a year or two -- so perhaps he has grown out of it. Maybe he can talk to women he finds attractive -- or are very Isabela-esque in what they say -- and has no problems with it.

And for reasons I don't know, I just can't fathom that being the case. It seems so... un-Cullen. I truly can only see him as a person that can't talk around women. That's part of his character to me.

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SamaraDraven wrote...

We should all be like this dude...

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I don't know... he seems a little grouchy.

*awkward silence*
*cricket chirps*

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*Tumble weed rolls past*

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Bob, I don't think you'll be winning any Oscars with that one...

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Allan Schumacher wrote...

Bob, I don't think you'll be winning any Oscars with that one...


:lol: Lol.

Neither will you Allan, neither will you....  

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Allan Schumacher wrote...

Bob, I don't think you'll be winning any Oscars with that one...


I don't know whether to applaud or cry on that one.

Maybe I'll just do both...

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

It's been seven to ten years since the mage origin.


He seems to have still been shy around ladies in Enemies Among Us, where he's very bashful about his attempts at talking to the ladies there.

Still, those happen in a relatively subsequent timeline -- roughly a year or two -- so perhaps he has grown out of it. Maybe he can talk to women he finds attractive -- or are very Isabela-esque in what they say -- and has no problems with it.

And for reasons I don't know, I just can't fathom that being the case. It seems so... un-Cullen. I truly can only see him as a person that can't talk around women. That's part of his character to me.


One thing that I think is overlooked for this thread, among many others is... everyone has to be approaching their 40's at this point!

Morrigan, Cullen, Sten, Allistair, the Warden... they were all 20-something's in DA:O, I'd wager. Well, its been ten years since then. Which puts them all in their 30's, possibly in their late 30's. 

Now, nothing is wrong with people in their late 30's, but I think people are just forgetting that if we get a new protagonist, chances are they will be a fresh face in their early 20's again (just like always), so a Cullen LI will be robbing the craddle, more or less.

Just an observation. People seem to forget that a lot of time has actually passed between the first game and the third, time which has aged all of the characters.

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Fast Jimmy wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

It's been seven to ten years since the mage origin.


He seems to have still been shy around ladies in Enemies Among Us, where he's very bashful about his attempts at talking to the ladies there.

Still, those happen in a relatively subsequent timeline -- roughly a year or two -- so perhaps he has grown out of it. Maybe he can talk to women he finds attractive -- or are very Isabela-esque in what they say -- and has no problems with it.

And for reasons I don't know, I just can't fathom that being the case. It seems so... un-Cullen. I truly can only see him as a person that can't talk around women. That's part of his character to me.


One thing that I think is overlooked for this thread, among many others is... everyone has to be approaching their 40's at this point!

Morrigan, Cullen, Sten, Allistair, the Warden... they were all 20-something's in DA:O, I'd wager. Well, its been ten years since then. Which puts them all in their 30's, possibly in their late 30's. 

Now, nothing is wrong with people in their late 30's, but I think people are just forgetting that if we get a new protagonist, chances are they will be a fresh face in their early 20's again (just like always), so a Cullen LI will be robbing the craddle, more or less.

Just an observation. People seem to forget that a lot of time has actually passed between the first game and the third, time which has aged all of the characters.

Cullen gets sexier as he ages:wub:, haven't you seen him in DA2?<3ސ<3
AND I have a thing for 40 years old manly men! they seem very.....ripe for...er..... "harvest":devil:

Modifié par Parmida, 25 septembre 2012 - 01:18 .