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So how's the Templars vs Mages war gonna be presented?


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The mages are not an army, nor do they represent a country or have strongholds to defend.
And the Templars will possibly clash with the local autorithies if they pretend to cross borders to launch an assault to whatever fortress on whatever country the mages gather.

Who leads the mages?
Who leads the Templars?
Is there going to be massive open field battles Braveheart style? Or is it going to be more of a witch hunt? Are the mages going to act as small terrorist cells or like a full army?
Where do the mages hide? Are they a "faction" or are they scattered?
Will Tevinter intervene to try to recruit any powerful mages on its best interests?
Will the Qunari act seeing how the force that drove them away from Thedas is now free, and it could either destry itself, get destroyed, or just become an independent force that could conquer all of Thedas and even the Qunari themselves?
Is it going really to be a war, or will both groups just watch each other carefully with the occasional skirmish?
Will the war suddenly be interrupted by some world changing event?

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opinions?

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Aren't the Qunari still stalemated in Tevinter? I don't remember DA2 specifically addressing it, but I didn't play much DA2 either. Either way last I knew the bulk of those two nations factions are tied up at present.

I don't think there are enough free mages in the south to constitute an army.  They will rely mostly on guerrilla tactics, and subversion, I would think.

Modifié par relhart, 24 septembre 2012 - 11:14 .


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I doubt the Qunari will be terribly involved though I suspect we'll encounter the Ben Hassreth (Probably spelled that wrong)

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You would think that the mages would head to Tevinter and maybe Fereldan(?). The current Divine also sympathises with the plight of the mages so with the Chantry/Templar split, perhaps they are harbouring the mages. They will probably be led either by Magisters or a First Enchanter.

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I'd say it's likely the mages are led by a daemon. Flemeth possibly.

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relhart wrote...

I'd say it's likely the mages are led by a daemon. Flemeth possibly.

wouldn't that ****** off those who sided with Orsino in DA2?

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Elfman wrote...

You would think that the mages would head to Tevinter and maybe Fereldan(?).


Smart ones would head to Ferelden over Tevinter.

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filetemo wrote...

relhart wrote...

I'd say it's likely the mages are led by a daemon. Flemeth possibly.

wouldn't that ****** off those who sided with Orsino in DA2?


I couldn't stomach DA2 long enough to finish it.  I know Orsino existed in the setting, but not much more about him than that.  I was just basing it off of Biowares apparent hardon for making all mages who don't want to live as slaves, blood mages.

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relhart wrote...

I couldn't stomach DA2 long enough to finish it.  I know Orsino existed in the setting, but not much more about him than that.  I was just basing it off of Biowares apparent hardon for making all mages who don't want to live as slaves, blood mages.


Gaider complained that too many people sided with mages "automatically." It seems the solution was to make mage antagonists insane and stupid. That's why Decimus thinks Merrill and the others are templars, that's why some mages followed a raving lunatic like Tahrone (even though she looks like a crack addict), that's why Grace wants revenge against Hawke even if he helped her, and that's why Orsino loses his marbles and becomes the recycled Harvester from GoA. Instead of fleshed out characters from both factions, we have caricatures who are silly, insipid, and tiresome. It was a disappointment.

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LobselVith8 wrote...

relhart wrote...

I couldn't stomach DA2 long enough to finish it.  I know Orsino existed in the setting, but not much more about him than that.  I was just basing it off of Biowares apparent hardon for making all mages who don't want to live as slaves, blood mages.


Gaider complained that too many people sided with mages "automatically." It seems the solution was to make mage antagonists insane and stupid. That's why Decimus thinks Merrill and the others are templars, that's why some mages followed a raving lunatic like Tahrone (even though she looks like a crack addict), that's why Grace wants revenge against Hawke even if he helped her, and that's why Orsino loses his marbles and becomes the recycled Harvester from GoA. Instead of fleshed out characters from both factions, we have caricatures who are silly, insipid, and tiresome. It was a disappointment.


That's Bioware's thing nowdays; make every character an utter moron.

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relhart wrote...

I'd say it's likely the mages are led by a daemon. Flemeth possibly.

I actually figure that at least one faction will be led by possibly even a Pride Demon in disguise.

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filetemo wrote...

The mages are not an army, nor do they represent a country or have strongholds to defend.
And the Templars will possibly clash with the local autorithies if they pretend to cross borders to launch an assault to whatever fortress on whatever country the mages gather.

Who leads the mages?
Who leads the Templars?
Is there going to be massive open field battles Braveheart style? Or is it going to be more of a witch hunt? Are the mages going to act as small terrorist cells or like a full army?
Where do the mages hide? Are they a "faction" or are they scattered?
Will Tevinter intervene to try to recruit any powerful mages on its best interests?
Will the Qunari act seeing how the force that drove them away from Thedas is now free, and it could either destry itself, get destroyed, or just become an independent force that could conquer all of Thedas and even the Qunari themselves?
Is it going really to be a war, or will both groups just watch each other carefully with the occasional skirmish?
Will the war suddenly be interrupted by some world changing event?


1: Grand Enchanter Fiona im guessing
2. Lord Seeker Lambert Van-Reeves... if he's still alive, which is unclear if he isn't then we dont know yet
3. I'm guessing the mages will act as small terrorist cells or within armies (Ferelden and Rivain are likely to support them, maybe Nevarra as well since they are eager to expand their territory and conquer some of Orlais who are likely to side with the Templars.)
4. There will probably be one primary faction (Now free circle mages) and a bunch of minor blood mage factions who will go to any lengths to crush the templars or something.
5. Tevinter is unlikely to intervine and It's not in the Court of Magisters interests to recruit more mages according to David Gaider who said they would be seen as nothing more than political competition. They are still at war with the Qunari so would be unwilling to get involved in a conflict involving the rest of thedas.
6. The Qunari may certainly act, I'm hoping so to see this as the established lead-up at the end of the game for dragon age 4.
7. The Mage Templar War will be a contributing factor to a series of battles and declarations of war between the nations of thedas. Such as the Ferelden-Nevarran alliance or a war between the faithful Andrastian Andefels and the Nevarrans invading Orlais to expand their territory and having taken the mages side. or the faithful Antivans and the Mage sympathizing Rivani's. =D
8. Yes, most likely. or peace will be established or one side destroyed through the actions of the DA3 PC

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I don't think the Templar/Mage war be be nearly as clean and easily categorized as the name would suggest. I suspect there will be plenty of mages who outright agree with the Templars and side with them against the rebel Mages. And the opposite of course. I'm not even sure it will evenly break down into two sides. You've got, at least, one faction that thinks mages need to be eradicated/treated like dangerous animals, one faction the believes mages need to be treated with respect, educated, and yet set apart, and one that thinks they should be allowed to do whatever they want with no overt control. And that's just humans. Elves and Qunari clearly have their own ideas about how mages should be treated. On top of that, you also have various other major organizations such as the Wardens with their own ideas about mages.

It's a very complex conflict, and I hope they are able to do it justice. I'd hate if they simplified it to just mages vs Templars.

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Badassfully, hopefully.

Modifié par Get fired up, 25 septembre 2012 - 09:39 .