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The return of spiky armor?


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#51
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Korusus wrote...

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I for one loved the rogue outfits for both
Hawke and Isabela. Isabela's outfit looked both rogue and pirate like. I
thought it was a nice change compared to the usual run of the mill,
generic and rather boring looking full leather rogue outfits.


Isabella was a joke.  The concept art for DA3 we've seen hopefully means that won't be repeated.  Points for being original, but come on...that was just outrageous.


Outrageous ? Hyperbole. Sorry, I don't agree. I'll meet you half way though, Isabela would've worked fine too with showing a little less skin. Either way I still like the outfit and given her character I wouldn't even expect her outfit to be chaste to begin with.

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 Eww, no more spike armor please.

Would MUCH rather go back to DAO's armor styles, they felt way more believable.

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Wulfram wrote...


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Practical?


I think the complaint is with the heavier armours.

But yes, that armour is bad too.

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DA3 armor sets will be inspired by one "french" country. I think that the same applies for DA:O (practical Ferelden) and DA2 (...huh, how would I describe Free Marches/Kirkwall?)

Modifié par Dagr88, 24 septembre 2012 - 08:13 .


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Hawke looked like a hobo with those "champion" costumes. All he needed was a trolly.

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Wulfram wrote...


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Practical?


Yeah, people who dislike the armours in DAII dislike that armour too. At least in general.

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Depending on the world/mythology the game involves, I like spiky armor. For dragon age, probably should tone down the spikes. I like the heavy metal look, but I'm not sure it fits that well in ferelden outside of a Boss or other fierce diety. Unless we intend to journey to the world of Brütal Legend for the Inquisition, I'd say stick with what works best for BioWare...whatever that may be.

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I don't think words are necessary.

Modifié par EpicBoot2daFace, 24 septembre 2012 - 08:17 .


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Looks good.  Like Cassandra's armour

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Modifié par Wulfram, 24 septembre 2012 - 08:26 .


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Wulfram wrote...

A lot of DA2 armour was fine. It's mostly just the champion's set which is so over the top.

I love the stuff Warrior Hawke starts out in. More of it and stuff like it please
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Agree with the OP.

Lets see some realistic looking armor designs, and dump the spiky comic book style armors.

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Wulfram wrote...

Looks good.  Like Cassandra's armour

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The problem with her armor is it looks plastic. But that's probably a lighting issue.

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EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

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I don't think words are necessary.


Nice mod.

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EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

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I don't think words are necessary.


Just looking at that makes me want to play a Warrior in DA3. I miss my days in DAO with the original unpatched Blood Dragon Armor.

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EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

Looks good.  Like Cassandra's armour

The problem with her armor is it looks plastic. But that's probably a lighting issue.


I think that might be intentional as to make her less conspicious in low light conditions. I kind of like it, even though it harkens me back to ****ty Volvo Amazons with a housepaint paintjob from the fields of my youth.

It makes sense in context though.

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Spiky armor can look good u know, so long as its well designed.

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I think this stuff looks great.

Modifié par EpicBoot2daFace, 24 septembre 2012 - 09:22 .


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Neither DA:O nor DA2 have 'realistic' armour (which is not necessarily boring or even simple-looking).
They both fluctuate between two ends of the kind of armour you find in D&D 3rd edition and later, and other contemporary 'mainstream' pen & paper RPG's and videogames. In that sense, both the spiky and the non-spiky armour are 'generic' in the sense of being typical for mainstream fantasy RPG's. And that DA:O and DA2 have both types is only logical, because it is a very, very, very typical example of mainstream fantasy RPG's. Call it D&D without paying the licensing fees. And with a bit less colour, fewer races and far less varied enemies.

The first DA game was at the more 'muted' (less spiky and colourful) end of the spectrum, but just as fake. You just have to look more carefully at it. A bit of knowledge about armour helps.

Mainstream fantasy RPG armour, with relatively low spikyness factor:

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Regdar, human fighter, iconic character in D&D 3.0 & 3.5

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Another iconic character, Korrin, human marshal

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Tordek, iconic Dwarven fighter. Yep, spiky.

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Overview of armour types, D&D 3.0 and 3.5 Player's Handbook. Plain and spiky.

Personal preferences are a matter of taste. I do agree that the spiky versions (but also the excess of belts, straps and buckles) are more obviously fake, and thus more likely to break suspension of disbelief. But DA was always a setting which was very 'fragile' in that respect. Best to say 'what the hell why not' and , provided the combat is fun and the characters engaging, try to enjoy the ride.

Having said that: I think BioWare would do well to get rid of the worst excesses, it appears to put too many people off. It doesn't really distinguish it from other fantasy RPG's either, they are also prone to similar or even more intense levels of spikyness and belt-and-buckle-and-straps-itis.

Modifié par Das Tentakel, 24 septembre 2012 - 09:46 .


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Mr Fixit wrote...

I know some people think that generic (whatever that means) = bad. But to me this looks 1000x better, more practical, and yes, cooler, than any stylised armor in DA2.

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That's still extremely stylized, and most of the Rogue armors in DA2 look something like this anyway.

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Plaintiff wrote...

Mr Fixit wrote...

I know some people think that generic (whatever that means) = bad. But to me this looks 1000x better, more practical, and yes, cooler, than any stylised armor in DA2.

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That's still extremely stylized, and most of the Rogue armors in DA2 look something like this anyway.


It's a style, alright. One that avoids anything that is really implausible or unpractical (though I wouldn't put my potions there). The rogue armours vary from the silly to the 'muted looking' but unrealistic, and even the most sane ones have a couple of things that are decidedly off as in 'pretty dumb'. That is totally independent of whether I like them visually or not - I do like some of them.

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LotR is a great example of a stylised yet consistent, and above all, good look. You don't have to be cartoonish to be memorable and recognisable.

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I liked the spikes. They were on one armor set. The rest were "normal"

I'd just appreciate greater diversity. Like if I killed a guy from Orlais, gimme Orlais armor pieces. If I pwn some Fereldans, gimme that Fereldan armor. If a lay down the wreck on some Elves, I want to look that lame ass puny girly boy armor they have.

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Also, I could care more or less for spikes but please not boring stuff that actually looks like it came from a history book. I want to look cool, not boring.

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Han Shot First wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

A lot of DA2 armour was fine. It's mostly just the champion's set which is so over the top.

I love the stuff Warrior Hawke starts out in. More of it and stuff like it please
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Agree with the OP.

Lets see some realistic looking armor designs, and dump the spiky comic book style armors.


Yes. While we're at it, why don't we all get shoe-horned into playing generic shield n' sword warriors too? <_<

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@Mr Fixit

Totally agree..LotR is also in a fantasy setting and the some of the armors in there were 'pimped' too, yet they did not create disbelief as Das Tentakel has stated in his post above.

Saw another picture of a LotR armor in this thread that looked really good imho.

Differentiation between armors of different regions in Thedas and seeing the differences is something that would really be cool. MotA had some of that by the little plates that were on the shoulders of the gentlemen participating in the hunt. Overall though missed the differences in armor depending on where the people where from. Races had differend armors, yes, but the humans were fairly bland overall in what armor they wore.

Here a picture from LotR, fully armored but covered by the weapon and colors of the city/region:

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AppealToReason wrote...

Also, I could care more or less for spikes but please not boring stuff that actually looks like it came from a history book. I want to look cool, not boring.


To each his own, but I'd like my character to look appropriate for the situation he's in, with attire and armour that is functional and in tune with the general atmosphere of the game.

That to me is 'cool'. Cool arises out of context, it's not some extracontextual thing that just *is* by some intrinsic virtue of being cool.

Come to think of it, I hate meaningless words like 'cool' or 'fun'.