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[DarkKnightHolmes]

F' that. Go back to DAO version.

[Wrathion]

Man, you people really don't know what anorexia is.

[naughty99]

coles4971 wrote...

While I think the second elf looks horrible, I don't think it's fair to use a modded character, just how it's not fair to do the Shianni/Orana comparison.

I wasn't aware that image was from a mod.

I think the vanilla companion elf character from DA:O Velanna also looked like a human with pointy ears compared to Merrill, for example, who had some interesting racial features. After all, I take it elves are intended to be an entirely different species, and it's a bit refreshing to see something a little different from generic representations of elves in other games.





I suppose for the look of the Felicia Day character; however, they had to go back to a human with pointy ears, because she was supposed to resemble the actress.

Modifié par naughty99, 24 septembre 2012 - 06:19 .

[mousestalker]

Merrill is the example of the DA2 elf done right. I love the idea of a distinctive elven look. The problem is that elves are supposed, per the game itself, to be attractive and too many of the DA2 variety weren't.

[C9316]

What the hell makes you think DA2 elves are anorexic? They're just extremely fugly.

[Little Princess Peach]

coles4971 wrote...

Yes, there are people in favour of keeping the new elves. There are also people who want the ones from Origins back. There are also people who prefer neither.

maybe the half elves should look like the ones in origin and full blooded elves should stay like they are in DA2 then everyone is happy

[Eyil]

Alexandrine Delassixe wrote...

Man, you people really don't know what anorexia is.

Quoted, bolded, underlined and reddened for truth. Using "anorexic" as a term to mean "thin" or "emaciated" is extremely insulting. Imagine if every overweight person was called diabetic or morbidly obese. Even then it's not the same - try calling every overweight person a chronic overeater.

Modifié par Eyil, 24 septembre 2012 - 06:34 .

[megamacka]

I think Merril looked great!
However, most other elves I was just like..... wtf

[Rinji the Bearded]

> ITT we inappropriately use the term "anorexic" to apply to thin or slender people

jesus christ you people

[Hanako Ikezawa]

mousestalker wrote...

Merrill is the example of the DA2 elf done right. I love the idea of a distinctive elven look. The problem is that elves are supposed, per the game itself, to be attractive and too many of the DA2 variety weren't.

This. Just put more time into the generic models and we are set. 

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 24 septembre 2012 - 06:36 .

[Wulfram]

I think a lot of the problem was that minor NPCs were designed in a rather sloppy way. Most elves that had some effort put into them weren't too bad.

I would like to see them generally nudged a little closer to the human norm, without abandoning their distinctive traits entirely. Many of the traits were in fact less extreme on the more important elf NPCs than with the minor ones.

[tmp7704]

Eyil wrote...

Alexandrine Delassixe wrote...

Man, you people really don't know what anorexia is.

Quoted, bolded, underlined and reddened for truth. Using "anorexic" as a term to mean "thin" or "emaciated" is extremely insulting. Imagine if every overweight person was called diabetic or morbidly obese. Even then it's not the same - try calling every overweight person a chronic overeater.

You are putting your own words in the OP's mouth here -- there's not a single statement there that could be interpreted as the author thinking (or claiming) that "anorexic means thin or emaciated".

They are simply calling a spade a spade -- the body proportions of DA2 elf model are close match for proportions of anorexic human.

Modifié par tmp7704, 24 septembre 2012 - 06:44 .

[mya11]

This tread is very very strange and bad !!

[Eyil]

tmp7704 wrote...

Eyil wrote...

Alexandrine Delassixe wrote...

Man, you people really don't know what anorexia is.

Quoted, bolded, underlined and reddened for truth. Using "anorexic" as a term to mean "thin" or "emaciated" is extremely insulting. Imagine if every overweight person was called diabetic or morbidly obese. Even then it's not the same - try calling every overweight person a chronic overeater.

You are putting your own words in the OP's mouth here -- there's not a single statement there that could be interpreted as the author thinking "anorexic means thin or emaciated".

They are simply calling spade the spade -- the body proportions of DA2 elf model are close match for proportions of anorexic human.

Except anorexic people can be of any size. Anorexia is not a body size, it's an eating disorder. Plus, they look plenty healthy to me. As a bony, thin person myself, I can tell you that extremely insulting and just plain stupid to misuse anorexic in such a way.

[Rinji the Bearded]

tmp7704 wrote...
You are putting your own words in the OP's mouth here -- there's not a single statement there that could be interpreted as the author thinking (or claiming) that "anorexic means thin or emaciated".

They are simply calling spade the spade -- the body proportions of DA2 elf model are close match for proportions of anorexic human.

Slender =/= anorexic

Anorexia is defined as a fear of eating.  Anorexia is not a body type.   Some slender people can eat all they want yet are still called anorexic by ignorant people.    This is also drawing attention away from those who are actually anorexic and are in need of help, not generalizations and ridicule.

You are part of the problem.

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 24 septembre 2012 - 06:50 .

[challenger18]

Cultist wrote...

We already have them
http://desmond.image...jpg&res=landing
P.S. Fun fact. Just for fun I entered anorexic elf in google and dragon age images were on 2nd page.

Crack is a hell of a drug. 

Seriously though, I liked the concept of BioWare wanting to distinguish elves from humans. They are a separate race they deserve to look like their own race instead of small humans with pointy ears. I would like to see the concept developed more than it was DA2, but honestly I think it is just a matter of polygon count. Fenris and Merrill look great, most other elves (like the one above) did not get that same treatement and ended up looking alien in a bad way. 

[Eyil]

I'm one of those people who can eat as much as I like and have been called anorexic. Very few things rustle my jimmies, but this is one of them. In fact, proportionately I'm probably thinner than the elves in DA2. Does this mean that I have some sort of case of superexia?

DA2's elves are willowy.

Modifié par Eyil, 24 septembre 2012 - 06:49 .

[LadyJaneGrey]

As a fairly slender person, I've had people ask if I'm anorexic before and didn't appreciate it.  You can't help your genes or metabolism.

Could you reword the topic, OP?

@Eyil  Yup.  What I don't understand is why slight acquaintances ask this and think they might get a "yes" answer.  Even if I were, why would I tell you?

Modifié par LadyJaneGrey, 24 septembre 2012 - 06:52 .

[Eyil]

I think I have to try that sometime.

"Are you anorexic?"
"Yes. *stare*"

[mya11]

The devs must close this thread, it gets really matter what people are writing the fanbase in BSN !!
I want romance X or Y, I want qunari in my bed; I want Mr ou Mrs bi!!! ....

I've never seen so many in this bsn this style of request for a game !

[Arch1eviathan]

I am Arch1eviathan and I like this thread.

Modifié par Arch1eviathan, 24 septembre 2012 - 07:01 .

[tmp7704]

Eyil wrote...

Except anorexic people can be of any size. Anorexia is not a body size, it's an eating disorder.

http://www.google.co...define anorexic

an·o·rex·ic
adjective /ˌanəˈreksik/ 

1. Relating to, characterized by, or suffering from anorexia
2. Extremely thin

The word is recognized to have two different, common meanings. The OP is using the second meaning.

You are essentially arguing that someone who says "That's right" is using languange incorrectly because "right" is used to describe a direction.

Plus, they look plenty healthy to me.

Then why are you arguing that the OP meant to say the new elves look is "emaciated"? If you truly believe that's what a "plenty healthy" person looks like, that association shouldn't have occured to you at all, no?

Modifié par tmp7704, 24 septembre 2012 - 06:57 .

[Rinji the Bearded]

tmp7704 wrote...

Eyil wrote...

Except anorexic people can be of any size. Anorexia is not a body size, it's an eating disorder.

http://www.google.co...define anorexic

an·o·rex·ic
adjective /ˌanəˈreksik/ 

1. Relating to, characterized by, or suffering from anorexia
2. Extremely thin

The word is recognized to have two different, common meanings. The OP is using the second meaning.

You are essentially arguing that someone who says "That's right" is using languange incorrectly because "right" is used to describe a direction.

Plus, they look plenty healthy to me.

Then why are you arguing that the OP meant to say the new elves looks is "emaciated"? If you truly believe that's what a "plenty healthy" person looks like, that association shouldn't have occured to you at all, no?

Ahahaha cherry-picking internet definitions doesn't make you correct

BTW this is the definition I got when I visited the same link

Adjective: Relating to or suffering from anorexia.
Noun: A person suffering from anorexia.

Wow.

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 24 septembre 2012 - 07:05 .

[Eyil]

Google isn't exactly the most compelling evidence. Dictionary.com, Miriam Webster and the Oxford English dictionary only describe anorexic as "relating to a loss of appetite" (through anorectic) and relating to someone suffering from anorexia nervosa.

And I'm not saying that I think they look emaciated. I'm saying that if the OP thinks that they look emaciated, then they should bleeding well use the word emaciated.

Sources: http://www.merriam-w...ionary/anorexic
http://dictionary.re...browse/anorexic
http://www.oed.com/v...om=Anorexic#eid

Modifié par Eyil, 24 septembre 2012 - 07:04 .

[tmp7704]

RinjiRenee wrote...

BTW this is the definition I got when I visited the same link

Click "more info". You get only first definition by default.

As for cherry picking, you'd have to elaborate on it. I really can't read people's minds.