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[Chriagon]

David Gaider wrote...

Thankfully, Sylvia is now here to push things towards the Light Side. She likes puppies and wildflowers and sunshine. With Luke whispering in her ear, of course, it's only a matter of time...

OMG. Save her from the dark side then!!

[David Gaider]

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...
All i am really asking for  is that  Romance interactions  join the  plate  even something  like I  presented in this thread would make a  world of difference's

Romances already take up a big chunk of content. They're not intended to take an equal place to the other pillars of the game, nor will they ever. We don't want to make them a bigger part of the game, so repeatedly suggesting how making them bigger would make them awesome is a bit beside the point.

[rapscallioness]

Emzamination wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...

Sheryl Chee wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

I mean, Luke? Luke will cut you ****es. And he'll like it a lot. Mary will gleefully rain hellfire down on the fans in general, and they will love her and despair. Jennifer pursues grim finality with sheer determination, and Sheryl just sort of swings around her plot hammer like some writer version of Harley Quinn. 

Really, what's the point of creating characters if you can't make them miserable?

Oh, this is just too funny. Lmao. Slightly alarming, but funny.

:mellow:I may be alone here but I don't get it...What's the punchline?

you're the punchline..ha!

No, really, i can't explain "funny".

but good luck with that.

[David Gaider]

chrissicross wrote...
OMG. Save her from the dark side then!!

Meh. It's kind of fun to watch, actually. Eventually Sheryl and Sylvia will need to duel with light sabers over who assumes Luke's Mantle of Despair. I'm calling it now.

[Yrkoon]

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...


This is my view on how it should be

Turkey -  the main plot story
Mash potatoes -   character interaction/ romance 
Stuffing - is the game play and mechanics

Ugh...  I'd switch the stuffing and mashed potatoes around.  Game play and mechanics are significantly more important than romances.   I'd also point out that "character interaction" is an overly broad term, and could in fact be the Gravy for the Turkey, thus making it part of the main course.  or, on the other hand, they could be nothing but minor seasonings for the Stuffing, and not  an integral part of the dinner at all.

It's hard to accurately make these sorts of analogies when trying to describe the ideal makeup of an RPG.  Personally, I see RPGs as whole supermarkets full of  groceries, and who's to say what's going to be on your weekly shopping list?

Modifié par Yrkoon, 25 septembre 2012 - 05:32 .

[Altered Idol]

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

David Gaider wrote...
**snip^^
We know romances are popular. Not liking them won't make them less popular. Lots of threads by the same people also won't make us turn the game into the romance simulator. We're well aware the forums are a big fishbowl, and anything said here is taken with a giant grain of salt.

IMO  I don't see why  anyone would  ever think  that any of your games has ever come even  close to  a dating sim in any of your  games.  That's why  I choose to use the phrase "double the content "  in one of my last responses " to  show  how disproportionate  the ratios were.

There  hasn't been  enough   romance   material  to  even get close to that  but even if it was  a "dating sim"  is closer to a true RPG that  my favorite example  of   a waste of time and money  from another company could   think  of becoming.

If  people don't want to romance  they  can  just skip that content and  get back to  mindless button mashing and killing stuff ..

My  whole  issue  is I  believe that  romance  and  character  interaction  and  romance  should be of at least  equal importance  just  feel the proportions are unbalanced and always have been that is one of the reasons I am vocal

Take a Turkey dinner for example

This is my view on how it should be

Turkey -  the main plot story
Mash potatoes -   character interaction/ romance 
Stuffing - is the game play and mechanics

It should al be able  to  on the  plate  in  equal proportions 

What  I always perceive  as happing  as   everything  else takes up the whole plate  and romance ends  up being a splash  of  gravy  or in some of your  games just  simple dinner  roll.

All i am really asking for  is that  Romance interactions  join the  plate  even something  like I  presented in this thread would make a  world of difference's

http://social.biowar.../index/14206985

I hate food analogies, its so cheesy!

[Emzamination]

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

I  ****ing hate that phrase and want to skewer anyone who uses it.

Sadly most everyone's a critic...not necessarily good ones mind you, but critics none the less.

[LolaLei]

Lol

Modifié par LolaLei, 25 septembre 2012 - 05:31 .

[Xilizhra]

David Gaider wrote...

chrissicross wrote...
OMG. Save her from the dark side then!!

Meh. It's kind of fun to watch, actually. Eventually Sheryl and Sylvia will need to duel with light sabers over who assumes Luke's Mantle of Despair. I'm calling it now.

Maybe all the negative writers will be eaten by some kind of despair-induced black hole, bringing down the hammer of poetic justice or something. I don't even believe in poetic justice and I still want to see that. Although if anyone would be eaten by a black hole, there are those from a different development team who'd be at the top of my list.

[Parmida]

Sheryl Chee wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

I mean, Luke? Luke will cut you ****es. And he'll like it a lot. Mary will gleefully rain hellfire down on the fans in general, and they will love her and despair. Jennifer pursues grim finality with sheer determination, and Sheryl just sort of swings around her plot hammer like some writer version of Harley Quinn. 

Really, what's the point of creating characters if you can't make them miserable?

So..........................no puppies and ponies for me?

[LolaLei]

David Gaider wrote...

chrissicross wrote...
OMG. Save her from the dark side then!!

Meh. It's kind of fun to watch, actually. Eventually Sheryl and Sylvia will need to duel with light sabers over who assumes Luke's Mantle of Despair. I'm calling it now.

What about Tonia? Is she part of the dark side? Or does she use the force?

[Altered Idol]

Parmida wrote...

Sheryl Chee wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

I mean, Luke? Luke will cut you ****es. And he'll like it a lot. Mary will gleefully rain hellfire down on the fans in general, and they will love her and despair. Jennifer pursues grim finality with sheer determination, and Sheryl just sort of swings around her plot hammer like some writer version of Harley Quinn. 

Really, what's the point of creating characters if you can't make them miserable?

So..........................no puppies and ponies for me?

You can have puppies and ponies.

They'll just be dead.

[upsettingshorts]

David Gaider wrote...

chrissicross wrote...
OMG. Save her from the dark side then!!

Meh. It's kind of fun to watch, actually. Eventually Sheryl and Sylvia will need to duel with light sabers over who assumes Luke's Mantle of Despair. I'm calling it now.

Where can we place bets on this?

[Emzamination]

rapscallioness wrote...


you're the punchline..ha!

No, really, i can't explain "funny".

but good luck with that.

So shameless pandering then? I thought as much.

Carry on

[rapscallioness]

Honestly, for me it's not so much about making more romantic content, as it is.....pacing? it out. I'm trying to say managing the build up. Parsing it up so it's not one big romantic glob. At predetermined times. Specifically. And always...

Just have it feel more natural.

[Altered Idol]

rapscallioness wrote...

Honestly, for me it's not so much about making more romantic content, as it is.....pacing? it out. I'm trying to say managing the build up. Parsing it up so it's not one big romantic glob. At predetermined times. Specifically. And always...

Just have it feel more natural.

So you want a nudist companion?

You're sick and need help.

:innocent:

[upsettingshorts]

Emzamination wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...


you're the punchline..ha!

No, really, i can't explain "funny".

but good luck with that.

So shameless pandering then? I thought as much.

Carry on

Pretty sure Sheryl's statement was meant to convey the exact opposite.  Creating characters and then putting those characters through misery is not "pandering," in fact I'd say it has little to do with it one way or the other.  It just the opposite of some happy-go-lucky self-indulgent fanfic in which everyone is happy and gets what they wants.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 25 septembre 2012 - 05:37 .

[Parmida]

Altered Idol wrote...

Parmida wrote...

Sheryl Chee wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

I mean, Luke? Luke will cut you ****es. And he'll like it a lot. Mary will gleefully rain hellfire down on the fans in general, and they will love her and despair. Jennifer pursues grim finality with sheer determination, and Sheryl just sort of swings around her plot hammer like some writer version of Harley Quinn. 

Really, what's the point of creating characters if you can't make them miserable?

So..........................no puppies and ponies for me?

You can have puppies and ponies.

They'll just be dead.

I hate you.

[Tasmen]

Emzamination wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...

Sheryl Chee wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

I mean, Luke? Luke will cut you ****es. And he'll like it a lot. Mary will gleefully rain hellfire down on the fans in general, and they will love her and despair. Jennifer pursues grim finality with sheer determination, and Sheryl just sort of swings around her plot hammer like some writer version of Harley Quinn. 

Really, what's the point of creating characters if you can't make them miserable?

Oh, this is just too funny. Lmao. Slightly alarming, but funny.

:mellow:I may be alone here but I don't get it...What's the punchline?

Your tears.

[mesmerizedish]

Sheryl Chee wrote...

Because I'm actually a talking dollar bill. Now you know.

If I do a dance, will you stick yourself in my panties?

[Mr Fixit]

Emzamination wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...


you're the punchline..ha!

No, really, i can't explain "funny".

but good luck with that.

So shameless pandering then? I thought as much.

Carry on

[wanders in the middle of something]

What's this? Ah, yes, Emzamination embarassing herself... again.

[goes away whistling merrily]

Modifié par Mr Fixit, 25 septembre 2012 - 05:38 .

[rapscallioness]

Emzamination wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...


you're the punchline..ha!

No, really, i can't explain "funny".

but good luck with that.

So shameless pandering then? I thought as much.

Carry on

What? Lol! Whatever....

[upsettingshorts]

Tasmen wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

I may be alone here but I don't get it...What's the punchline?

Your tears.

Pretty much.

[Rinji the Bearded]

Mr Fixit wrote...

[wanders in the middle of something]

What's this? Ah, yes, Emzammination embarassing herself... again.

[goes away whistling merrily]