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#276
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Upsettingshorts wrote...

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OMG. Save her from the dark side then!!


Meh. It's kind of fun to watch, actually. Eventually Sheryl and Sylvia will need to duel with light sabers over who assumes Luke's Mantle of Despair. I'm calling it now.


Where can we place bets on this?


Kickstarter.  It will fuel Sheryl's rage.

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

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you're the punchline..ha!

No, really, i can't explain "funny".

but good luck with that.


So shameless pandering then? I thought as much.

Carry on


Pretty sure Sheryl's statement was meant to convey the exact opposite.  Creating characters and then putting those characters through misery is not "pandering," in fact I'd say it has little to do with it one way or the other.  It just the opposite of some happy-go-lucky self-indulgent fanfic in which everyone is happy and gets what they wants.


I was referring to his mass hysteria, not the comment it-self.

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Parmida wrote...

Altered Idol wrote...

Parmida wrote...

Sheryl Chee wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

I mean, Luke? Luke will cut you ****es. And he'll like it a lot. Mary will gleefully rain hellfire down on the fans in general, and they will love her and despair. Jennifer pursues grim finality with sheer determination, and Sheryl just sort of swings around her plot hammer like some writer version of Harley Quinn. 


Really, what's the point of creating characters if you can't make them miserable?

So..........................no puppies and ponies for me?


You can have puppies and ponies.

They'll just be dead.

I hate you.:crying:

There, there. He doesn't make the game. There is still a chance for puppies and ponies. Okay, maybe not ponies, but puppies? Sure.

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David Gaider wrote...

chrissicross wrote...
OMG. Save her from the dark side then!!


Meh. It's kind of fun to watch, actually. Eventually Sheryl and Sylvia will need to duel with light sabers over who assumes Luke's Mantle of Despair. I'm calling it now.


Man, I don't like where this is going.

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Rule #1 for Bioware character design:

If it ain't broke, beat it up in the writer's pit until it's shattered.

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Altered Idol wrote...

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Honestly, for me it's not so much about making more romantic content, as it is.....pacing? it out. I'm trying to say managing the build up. Parsing it up so it's not one big romantic glob. At predetermined times. Specifically. And always...

Just have it feel more natural.


So you want a nudist companion?

You're sick and need help.

:innocent:


you know, and as I was typing in the word "natural", I knew someone was gonna have something snarky to say.

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David Gaider wrote...

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All i am really asking for  is that  Romance interactions  join the  plate  even something  like I  presented in this thread would make a  world of difference's


Romances already take up a big chunk of content. They're not intended to take an equal place to the other pillars of the game, nor will they ever. We don't want to make them a bigger part of the game, so repeatedly suggesting how making them bigger would make them awesome is a bit beside the point.


bleh .. cant say that makes me happy  ..especially

Since  no  tool has  been given to let modders  mod any of your game content since BG2   and you know  what  bg  2  is still playable becase of  all the player  made  mods even  after all these years.

or 

Up to this point Bioware has not released any paid  addtional LI romance dlcs for any of your games  that I know of 

If you dont want to do it  becase  you  think  its just a splash of gravey or a dinner roll or for whatever other  reason fine thats accptable ...but  at least  give other  peole the ability to do  it then,

is that not reasonable ?

Modifié par NovaBlastMarketing, 25 septembre 2012 - 05:48 .


#283
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the mods are kinda scaring me with their sadistic side...

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Emzamination wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...


you're the punchline..ha!

No, really, i can't explain "funny".

but good luck with that.


So shameless pandering then? I thought as much.

Carry on


Pretty sure Sheryl's statement was meant to convey the exact opposite.  Creating characters and then putting those characters through misery is not "pandering," in fact I'd say it has little to do with it one way or the other.  It just the opposite of some happy-go-lucky self-indulgent fanfic in which everyone is happy and gets what they wants.


I was referring to his mass hysteria, not the comment it-self.


What are you talking about?

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Altered Idol wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...

Honestly, for me it's not so much about making more romantic content, as it is.....pacing? it out. I'm trying to say managing the build up. Parsing it up so it's not one big romantic glob. At predetermined times. Specifically. And always...

Just have it feel more natural.


So you want a nudist companion?

You're sick and need help.

:innocent:

Eh?  That's not how I read it.

I agree with him that pacing  can make or break   the quality of a romance.  Content wise, DA2's romances were as good or better than DA:O's, but the pacing was unnatural.  Everything happened at pre-dermined Set times.

 On the other hand, DA:O's were presented  in a much more organic way.   The player was allowed  to pursue a romance as quickly or as slowly as he/she wished.  You could for, example, Roleplay a Morrigan romance as a "love at first sight" type of thing, getting her to sleep with you before you even set foot in lothering, and then having her profess her love for you shortly after  attaining your first army.  Or, you could take it slow, gaining her trust and affection in small, gradual quantities, thus having the whole thing come to a peak near the very end of the game.

I miss that.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 25 septembre 2012 - 05:46 .


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M2S SOLID JOSH wrote...

the mods are kinda scaring me with their sadistic side...


i think they were trying to. jus poking some fun. although, i do believe they have...how shall we say?...sadistic..tendencies..

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rapscallioness wrote...

What are you talking about?


Mass hysteria

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rapscallioness wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...


you're the punchline..ha!

No, really, i can't explain "funny".

but good luck with that.


So shameless pandering then? I thought as much.

Carry on


Pretty sure Sheryl's statement was meant to convey the exact opposite.  Creating characters and then putting those characters through misery is not "pandering," in fact I'd say it has little to do with it one way or the other.  It just the opposite of some happy-go-lucky self-indulgent fanfic in which everyone is happy and gets what they wants.


I was referring to his mass hysteria, not the comment it-self.


What are you talking about?


It is a mystery of the ages.

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rapscallioness wrote...

M2S SOLID JOSH wrote...

the mods are kinda scaring me with their sadistic side...


i think they were trying to. jus poking some fun. although, i do believe they have...how shall we say?...sadistic..tendencies..


Trust me.  They aren't joking :)

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NovaBlastMarketing wrote...
Since  no  tool has  been given to let modders  mod any of your game content since BG2 


Neverwinter Nights?
Dragon Age: Origins?

Tasmen wrote...

Trust me.  They aren't joking :)

They are joking.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 25 septembre 2012 - 05:51 .


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rapscallioness wrote...

Altered Idol wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...

Honestly, for me it's not so much about making more romantic content, as it is.....pacing? it out. I'm trying to say managing the build up. Parsing it up so it's not one big romantic glob. At predetermined times. Specifically. And always...

Just have it feel more natural.


So you want a nudist companion?

You're sick and need help.

:innocent:


you know, and as I was typing in the word "natural", I knew someone was gonna have something snarky to say.


Erm...I was only joking.

I was just highlighting how pretty reasonable requests can be taken to mean something ridiculous. 

It happens often on here.

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Tasmen wrote...


It is a mystery of the ages.


Slightly belated comments are always something to smile at.I think there were about 4 or 5 a page back =]

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Emzamination wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...

What are you talking about?


Mass hysteria


... the person is amused by Ms Chee's statement

I see no mass hysteria

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LolaLei wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

chrissicross wrote...
OMG. Save her from the dark side then!!


Meh. It's kind of fun to watch, actually. Eventually Sheryl and Sylvia will need to duel with light sabers over who assumes Luke's Mantle of Despair. I'm calling it now.


What about Tonia? Is she part of the dark side? Or does she use the force?


I enjoy the misery of others, as most writers do.

#295
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Emzamination wrote...

Tasmen wrote...


It is a mystery of the ages.


Slightly belated comments are always something to smile at.I think there were about 4 or 5 a page back =]


Nope, I would say my statement is still quite accurate and current events.  No need for a wayback machine here.

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Emzamination wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...

What are you talking about?


Mass hysteria


:mellow:

okay, you know what..nevermind.

*disengage*

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RinjiRenee wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...

What are you talking about?


Mass hysteria


... the person is amused by Ms Chee's statement

I see no mass hysteria


:whistle: Link

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Maria Caliban wrote...

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...
Since  no  tool has  been given to let modders  mod any of your game content since BG2 


Neverwinter Nights?
Dragon Age: Origins?


Additionally, BG had no official mod tools. NovaBlastMarketing certifiably has no clue what NovaBlastMarketing is talking about.

Tasmen wrote...

Trust me.  They aren't joking :)

They are joking.


Ehhh...

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Emzamination wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...

What are you talking about?


Mass hysteria


... the person is amused by Ms Chee's statement

I see no mass hysteria


:whistle: Link


I don't think you know what mass hysteria means

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argan1985 wrote...

Please, focus on the core gameplay mechanics and create a good RPG instead of spending a lot of resources on what in my opinion should just be secondary content.

 

It's already secondary content that is irrelevant to the main story.

argan1985 wrote... 

I have a feeling that a lot of you may disagree with me, but it just feels like there are many other areas where resources would be better spent.


And you have the actual figures of how many resources are being invested in romances? Either way, I can assure BW knows that they shouldn't invest ALL their resources into secondary content.