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[StarLitStranger]

More Romance!

Haha no worries guys, Bioware loves its female fan base of fangirls and a lot of it stems from the romance portions of these games.

Modifié par StarLitStranger, 27 septembre 2012 - 09:35 .

[Minttymint]

StarLitStranger wrote...

More Romance!

Haha no worries guys, Bioware loves its female fan base of fangirls and a lot of it stems from the romance portions of these games.

Oh Maker... Generalizations like these make me want to barf. The romance is good but I wouldnt say thats next to the only reason women play these games.

[StarLitStranger]

I didnt say that! I didnt say it was the only reason women play. DA is a great role playing game! but it's a big reason why their is that "fangirl" obsessive attitude towards these games. A fangirl isn't a normal fan base! Its a dedicated fandom train that stems from the unique formula of building up your character (through dialogue, action, and ROMANCE)

You yourself are rocking a Cullen signature. Hilarious.

Modifié par StarLitStranger, 27 septembre 2012 - 05:25 .

[jaza]

What? You want Bioware and EA to tone down their pixelated ****-toy stories and lose what loyal customers they have left?

[Darth Death]

MinttyMint wrote...

StarLitStranger wrote...

More Romance!

Haha no worries guys, Bioware loves its female fan base of fangirls and a lot of it stems from the romance portions of these games.

Oh Maker... Generalizations like these make me want to barf. The romance is good but I wouldnt say thats next to the only reason women play these games.

Well, there's the chopping of heads that's always appealing.  

[Minttymint]

StarLitStranger wrote...

I didnt say that! I didnt say it was the only reason women play. DA is a great role playing game! but it's a big reason why their is that "fangirl" obsessive attitude towards these games. A fangirl isn't a normal fan base! Its a dedicated fandom train that stems from the unique formula of building up your character (through dialogue, action, and ROMANCE)

You yourself are rocking a Cullen signature. Hilarious.

I didnt say that you said it was the -only- reason but that you said the majority stems from that and I feel thats false. My thought of what a fangirl is differs from yours so I shall not comment on that and yeah, I have a Cullen signature doesnt mean if hes not in the game i wont buy it. In fact if they cut romance out entirely Id still pre order it...
Im sporting this signature because theres a certain thread that needs to tone down the hate... What you think just because i have a characters name on a signature that, that makes me a fangirl? Uh huh.. 

[StarLitStranger]

It's just facts. Women love rpgs and mmos, they love bioware games, fan girls love romance (no matter what universe) and there's nothing wrong with it.  No one can say there isn't an abundance of female posters on this forum. These games have an appeal to the market.

Bioware has a unique edge and they know it! A good game with a romance sub-plot.
My only argument was that they wouldn't give it up because their loyal fans demand it.

I didn't mean to offend.

Modifié par StarLitStranger, 28 septembre 2012 - 09:27 .

[MiSS Provencale]

I'll disappoint the author of the post, but for me what makes the strength of bioware games it is precisely the romances! And I love romances. A wide choice is offered. I'm not gay but I must say that my warden and hawke were pleased with isabela but couple respectively with Alistair and Anders. I think it adds a touch of originality and excitement to the game I do not see myself playing a game without a Bioware romance (even more!). Romance with Alistair is probably the most worked all! And so much the better for us women!

[Minttymint]

StarLitStranger wrote...

It's just facts. Women love rpgs and mmos, they love bioware games, fan girls love romance (no matter what universe) and there's nothing wrong with it.  No one can say there isn't an abundance of female posters on this forum. These games have an appeal to the market.

Bioware has a unique edge and they know it! A good game with a romance sub-plot.
My only argument was that they wouldn't give it up because their loyal fans demand it.

I didn't mean to offend.

Thank you for explaining I now fully understand what you were saying and  you are correct Bioware wont give up romances because their fans love it be them male or female.  Im glad this ended peacefully unlike so many other arguments on these forums.

Modifié par MinttyMint, 28 septembre 2012 - 10:59 .

[SeismicGravy]

StarLitStranger wrote...

It's just facts. Women love rpgs and mmos, they love bioware games, fan girls love romance (no matter what universe) and there's nothing wrong with it.  No one can say there isn't an abundance of female posters on this forum. These games have an appeal to the market.

Bioware has a unique edge and they know it! A good game with a romance sub-plot.
My only argument was that they wouldn't give it up because their loyal fans demand it.

I didn't mean to offend.

Not completely true - The first game I played online was Ghost Recon, and there were quite a few female players playing the co-op campaigns.

I've also come across female players in

COD
Battlefield 3
Forza 4
Every Halo made from 3 upwards.
And even Chromehounds (Y U CLOSE SERVER SEGA!!!!)

[Sylvanpyxie]

Women love rpgs and mmos, they love bioware games, fan girls love romance (no matter what universe) and there's nothing wrong with it.

My advice to you would be to stop talking for the Female Gaming Community.

The use of generalizations will not help you make a valid argument.

[brushyourteeth]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Breathe, people. If you panic like this now, how are you going to make it through the period that still remains before any real info comes out? Gosh.

We could all put on a dress and dance the remigold while waiting, just a suggestion.

Okay, but only if it's a very pretty dress. 

[SamaraDraven]

brushyourteeth wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Breathe, people. If you panic like this now, how are you going to make it through the period that still remains before any real info comes out? Gosh.

We could all put on a dress and dance the remigold while waiting, just a suggestion.

Okay, but only if it's a very pretty dress. 

In red velvet, cut low in the front - we don't want to cover our features! And the shoes! <3

Okay. I'll stop. hehehe

[bloodmage13]

I gotta disagree with the original poster. I think romances are a great part of bioware games. I would still buy the game without it but the game would not be as good. Romances enhance the story in the dragon age series.

[SamaraDraven]

StarLitStranger wrote...

It's just facts. Women love rpgs and mmos, they love bioware games, fan girls love romance (no matter what universe) and there's nothing wrong with it.  No one can say there isn't an abundance of female posters on this forum. These games have an appeal to the market.

Bioware has a unique edge and they know it! A good game with a romance sub-plot.
My only argument was that they wouldn't give it up because their loyal fans demand it.

I didn't mean to offend.

That's funny. You may not have meant to offend but stating an old, out of date bias isn't a fact.
It's a myth. The fact that it was established by a male dominated
industry and touted as truth with a derogatory slant aganist female
gamers is what makes it offensive. Any girl who's been trashed for her
gender in multiplayer knows what I'm talking about.

Furthermore,
MMOs and RPGs were popular long before women were as prevelant in
mainstream gaming as they are these days. Girls love a lot of things pretty equally.

You're
right that there's nothing wrong with it, if that's what you dig but
it's not universally true of women to like romance in their games or
universally true that men don't. I'd cite personal examples but I
shouldn't have to justify my right not be subjected to sexism.

These
types of games you cite, were popular long before women were considered
a normal presence in games. Romance adds an extra dynamic to them and I
enjoy it sometimes for that reason (sometimes I murder-knife everyone)
but romance is not "for the women" - it's for all the players. Your
"facts" are out of date. Speak only for yourself, if this is true for you but not for the rest of us. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/joyful.png[/smilie]

[TScott215]

What is this? First I read similar thread about "toning down romances" for Mass Effect, now again for Dragon Age? I'm a dude, and I find the romance in these games to be fine, besides they are usually completely optional. Like my second play through of ME, I completely ignored romances altogether. Stop being such prudes.

[LolaLei]

StarLitStranger wrote...

I didnt say that! I didnt say it was the only reason women play. DA is a great role playing game! but it's a big reason why their is that "fangirl" obsessive attitude towards these games. A fangirl isn't a normal fan base! Its a dedicated fandom train that stems from the unique formula of building up your character (through dialogue, action, and ROMANCE)

You yourself are rocking a Cullen signature. Hilarious.

Well, I'm also a huge fan of Deadspace but I don't wanna **** a necromorph. You may not mean to offend but you'd do well to think before you post.

[Dragoonlordz]

I do not mind one way or the other about romances but I will say I would rather have them in than out simply because I know many people do enjoy them and I would be a big jerk if I tried to deny them that when the game is still in production. I would find it okay to argue against the quality of a feature post-release but not pre-release since I at this stage have no idea how good it could be or how will be done. If they are on par with most Bioware romances in previous games I think they are fine on that level with potential for improvement meaning deeper and more substance to them. If we do have them then they should not imho be toned down at all, improved upon as a feature sure but toned down no.

[someguy1231]

StarLitStranger wrote...

More Romance!

Haha no worries guys, Bioware loves its female fan base of fangirls and a lot of it stems from the romance portions of these games.

If that's true, then it speaks very, very poorly of their female fan base.

[StarLitStranger]

Wow. I am a female gamer. I am not saying all women like the same things... I'm taking about an overall market! I'm just stating STATISTICALLY those are the favored genere of games.

And it's my OPINION that Biowares success with this MARKET (because ulitmately their goal is to sell to a wide player base) comes from its character development including the romance portion!

Not every female gamer is a fan girl! That being said... Bioware certantly has more then it's fair share of it. Look at deviant art, fanfiction.net, and even some of these forum posts based on companion characters, the li. This is not a female only thing but Bioware is unique in the fact that it's a game company with a truly mixed fan base.

It's just my opinion based on statistics and my personal observations. It certainly wasn't intended to demean the female fan base (which I'm part of) just by saying this is a component that is enjoyed by Bioware s player base.
Yet I have everyone coming to the defend themselves! "You don't know me! I love violence! I'm great at multiplayer!" Okay and no one said you can't do or like anything! I WAS making a generalization because we are talking about a company trying to sell to a group and not you as an individual fan.

I'm just a fan saying that bioware has a unique market and makes great games for it. And in the middle of this discussion...

MiSS Provencale wrote...
I'll disappoint the author of the post, but for me what makes the strength of bioware games it is precisely the romances! And I love romances. A wide choice is offered. I'm not gay but I must say that my warden and hawke were pleased with isabela but couple respectively with Alistair and Anders. I think it adds a touch of originality and excitement to the game I do not see myself playing a game without a Bioware romance (even more!). Romance with Alistair is probably the most worked all! And so much the better for us women!

A perfect example of a loyal fan who wants what they have come to expect out of the game.  Bioware does not want to lose costumers over this. They are prefecting their own formula of games and romance plays a big role.


You lot take things a bit to seriously. I'm done with this conversation before I'm called a sexist female gamer and derail this topic further.

Modifié par StarLitStranger, 29 septembre 2012 - 05:30 .

[SamaraDraven]

The problem, StarLitStranger, that most people who've disagreed with you, have with your initial comment - as far as I can tell - is that it was written as if it was absolute in regards to female gamers. Also, it is untrue. Female gamers are more prevalent in games and thus, all game genres have received a boost in their popularity in the last decade or two. MMOs and RPGs enjoyed success before the increase of girl gamers.

Yes BioWare is known for the story telling element to their games and it has found a niche market to enjoy success with but it is their player base, not just the girls or even mostly the girls, they have established this rapport with. Saying they love their female players too much to give up the romances does a disservice to both BioWare and female gamers.

It diminishes what BioWare does best and foremost, which is tell a great story and build an immersive, enjoyable RPG. Especially because the romances are a small part of the game. Also, this absolute assertion you made had within it, a gross generalization of female fans - a generalization that has a strong negative association with it. We aren't far enough removed from that perception to take being generalized kindly, even in jest.

I think you meant your comments in a lighthearted manner and I'm sorry you feel you're being attacked. Around here, liberal use of personal disclaimers goes far to avoid that.

Modifié par SamaraDraven, 29 septembre 2012 - 04:54 .

[SeismicGravy]

Well I definitley had no intention of attacking anyone, and If it sounded as if I was I apologise. I was simply going on my personal experiences. I'll admit it's probably true that alot of females play RPGs and MMOs (My neice is crazy over Fable III), All I said was that I've played with them in other games too.

Modifié par SeismicGravy, 29 septembre 2012 - 11:56 .

[Crotchpunchr]

I just want the romance to be a little harder to pursue than they were in DA2. And Make the people in the romances actually sound like they like the protagonist.