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[Icinix]

The Hierophant wrote...

Icinix wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

M25105 wrote...

Thread starter, you're lucky you didn't see the thread that reached over 20 pages before it got locked filled with posters wanting to see full front nudity in the sex scenes. Sometimes I wonder whether half this forum is filled with horny teens and women in their 70's or not.

Didn't Fox news say the same thing about Mass Effect?

Judging by the amount of love interest / romance banners that came into existence during and after ME2 and the threads asking for better sex scenes....they may have been right.

What's funny is that posters who are well known advocates for increased romance despised the make "DA3 sex scenes likeTW2" premise. So i don't know about Fox News assessment yet.

Yeah - thats a funny one - a lot of people complaining about the scenes in TW2 also made sure they slept with every character they could in the game - when by memory there is only once scene that occurs with nudity that is irrespective of players choice.

Nothing quite like giving players choice then the players complaining because the can't keep their fingers off the 'sleep with NPC' option.

[The Hierophant]

David Gaider wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...
So i guess we are stuck in Limbo until then?

Indeed. Until we do more than simply announce the game and actually start providing some info, 95% of the threads on this forum will be speculation.

You're welcome.

<sighs>Oh well, patience is a virtue i wish i had.(Views love related thread # 103,052 before the announcement.)

[The Elder King]

David Gaider wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...
So i guess we are stuck in Limbo until then?

Indeed. Until we do more than simply announce the game and actually start providing some info, 95% of the threads on this forum will be speculation.

You're welcome.

Do you enjoy watch the threads about story speculation, and how far they are from the true story (IF they are far )?

Modifié par hhh89, 24 septembre 2012 - 10:07 .

[Herr Uhl]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Indeed. I'm a regular on this board and it stil boggles my mind. One poster on here suggested BioWare create a digital soap opera game for all the folks who go crazy over these digital relationships.

That happens every other day though when it comes to romance threads. "Go play a dating sim", "Go play a hack and slash" and "Get your chocolate out of my peanut butter".

I think it reached the metaphorical climax around when Jennifer Hepler mentioned that she'd like a feature allowing you to skip combat.

[The Hierophant]

Icinix wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

Icinix wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

M25105 wrote...

Thread starter, you're lucky you didn't see the thread that reached over 20 pages before it got locked filled with posters wanting to see full front nudity in the sex scenes. Sometimes I wonder whether half this forum is filled with horny teens and women in their 70's or not.

Didn't Fox news say the same thing about Mass Effect?

Judging by the amount of love interest / romance banners that came into existence during and after ME2 and the threads asking for better sex scenes....they may have been right.

What's funny is that posters who are well known advocates for increased romance despised the make "DA3 sex scenes likeTW2" premise. So i don't know about Fox News assessment yet.

Yeah - thats a funny one - a lot of people complaining about the scenes in TW2 also made sure they slept with every character they could in the game - when by memory there is only once scene that occurs with nudity that is irrespective of players choice.

Nothing quite like giving players choice then the players complaining because the can't keep their fingers off the 'sleep with NPC' option.

Agreed it's hilarious. Outside of the Triss scene, Phillipa & Cynthia scene, everything else was optional. 

[David Gaider]

hhh89 wrote...
Do you enjoy watch the threads about story speculation

I have a peculiar ability-- if there's a thread that looks like it's something that will make me roll my eyes, I'll just avoid it. Or not, depending on how masochistic I feel at that moment.

and how far they are from the true story (IF they are far )?

Every now and again some of the speculation is correct-- but even a dead clock is bound to be right at least twice a day.

[The Hierophant]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Icinix wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

It's just the amount of romance threads are ridiculous. Why not make an official romance thread or something?

Indeed. Were I the OP and had I just come back from a hiatus, I would swear looking at a lot of these threads that DA3 was going to be a Japanese Dating Game involving lots of cosplay gifts.

Indeed. I'm a regular on this board and it stil boggles my mind. One poster on here suggested BioWare create a digital soap opera game for all the folks who go crazy over these digital relationships.

Was that me, or someone else?(sometimes i'm drunk.)

Actually, I think it was you.

<ashamed of self>

[The Elder King]

David Gaider wrote...

hhh89 wrote...
Do you enjoy watch the threads about story speculation

I have a peculiar ability-- if there's a thread that looks like it's something that will make me roll my eyes, I'll just avoid it. Or not, depending on how masochistic I feel at that moment.

Well, I find that in almost every thread, there's a post that will make me laugh. There's the reason why when I have time I read threads wich I can't stand (they're generally are the ones who periodically appears in the respective forums, like the Cerberus's role in the ME3 forum during development).

and how far they are from the true story (IF they are far )?

Every now and again some of the speculation is correct-- but even a dead clock is bound to be right at least twice a day.

Did it ever happen that a people guessed a main plot (putting aside the obvious, like fighting the Arishok in DA2)?

[Menagra]

Gremnock wrote...

Altered Idol wrote...

Why exactly does there have to be an either/or? Why can't they focus on both to give us the kind of game that appeals to all fans of the series. Give us the "core gameplay mechanics" that make the best RPG's but why not also give us realistic and believable romances that enhance the gaming experience?

I seriously don't understand the fractious nature of the romance aspect of RPG's. In the best games, romance doesn't detract for the quality of the game, it makes it better. In my opinion.

This..I agree 100%. I want my CULLEN!!!

OMG yes cullen as a romance

And to OP I think it's unfair to ask the developer to tone down a part of the game so many enjoy. Really bioware should flush the romances out more b/c people want them so much. Romances are not a "sim" as some people call it. I actually think bioware has not embraced them as much as they should simply due to fear of being defined as a "sim" (it seems that's the case anyway). No, it's a story that we want to see happen. That's all.


I personally enjoyed watching Aveline romance Donnic as much as I enjoyed my Hawk romance Anders (boy that did not turn out ). Same for Tali and Garrus (though Tali sort of cuts out his heart and hands it to him). It just enriches the story is all. And in Bioware's style romances fit REALLY well in the dialogue system and they add to the immersion. Bioware just might be the more "romantic" game developer and there's nothing wrong with that.

EX: In Skyrim all people wanted was ability to have children, not more romance dialogue. Bethseda's style is to make the player feel apart of the world. And so when you get married in skryim you don't quite feel apart of the world seeing other families have children. Then Bethseda made the game more immersive by not only allowing you to adopt but also to customize your house because that's just Bethseda's style. That made the bethseda "romance" perfect for a bethseda game due to the customization. Bioware's style is the dialogue circle where you get to know characters more by talking to them throughout the game. And romances open up a lot of information on each character. And so really asking for more romances is about a hairline away from asking for more emersion in the game. It's just another way to make the game feel like a rich experience as it is a role playing game. And as I said it just compliments Bioware's style.

[shedevil3001]

i love the way bioware have handled the romances in game, and to expand them would be great, its what makes their games stand out from other game developers

[upsettingshorts]

David Gaider wrote...

Every now and again some of the speculation is correct

I see you've been reading Anarya's posts.

Obviously.

[argan1985]

frostajulie wrote...

argan1985 wrote...

I've been away from these boards for a few years, and I can hardly believe my eyes now that I'm back. It seems at least a third of all game threads are in some way related to the romance options in the game. I can't believe that this is what RPGs have come to focus on.

Remember BG2? That was done in a good way, the romance was there as something in the background; adding a little bit to the story of the Bhaalspawn, if you will. But the way it was done in DA2 and the way it is focused on in "Things you want for Dragon Age 3"-threads is staggering.

Please, focus on the core gameplay mechanics and create a good RPG instead of spending a lot of resources on what in my opinion should just be secondary content.

I have a feeling that a lot of you may disagree with me, but it just feels like there are many other areas where resources would be better spent.

first of all have you even played Biowares games?  The romances ARE toned down, it is us the fans that tone it up The romances are still good, and in the background and add a bit to the story but it is us the fans who get all excited about it and there are reasons for this.

1.  People respond to romance and the idea of love, it is an integral part of being human and it personalizes a story in a way nothing else can.

2.  Bioware is the only gaming company that takes advantage of this aspect of the human condition and uses it as a way to enhance and strengthen their stories and games.  This is called novelty and it has not worn off yet.

3.  Bioware has never made a game that focused on the romances.  They have always struck a good balance.  It has always been the fans who have asked for more.  Its because they are good at it.

So to sum it up Bioware is not the one who has hyped up the romances and need to tone it down.  It is us the fans who hype them up because they are so enjoyable and novel.  And if you don't like it you need not read the romance related threads.  We are not going anywhere.

Yes, I've played every Bioware game except Shattered Steel, MDK2 and Jade Empire. The romances in previous RPGs were toned down, but in the last couple of games it feels like they are taking more space. It seems like I stepped in a hornet's nest here; I can understand why they are there, but it just seemed like there was a disproportional amount of attention given to them.

I apologize if anyone took offense. It's not what I'd like to see given a lot of resources and work spent, but if they listen to their fanbase, good on them.

[upsettingshorts]

The only game where I would say that is true is Mass Effect 2, if only because there were so many companions that a lot of content for romance-able characters was hidden in romance dialogue and nowhere else. So you got a lot of calibrations from Garrus. But that's a different team, and one game hardly makes a trend.

[addiction21]

I am rather entertained its the "oh god theres so many romances thread" posters are keeping them bumped on the front page.

Good job...

[shedevil3001]

the good thing about the romances is that most of them arent forced' with maybe 1 or 2 exceptions of companions hitting on our protagonist, but making them optional does make it much better, bioware have done great writing the romances, i only hope we do see more li stuff, as long as it stays optional and not forced, then those that want it can have it, and those that dont can do without it so everyone wins

[Plaintiff]

Truly, it is a terrible thing when people enjoy one aspect of a product "too much".

[Nashimura]

shedevil3001 wrote...

the good thing about the romances is that most of them arent forced' with maybe 1 or 2 exceptions of companions hitting on our protagonist, but making them optional does make it much better, bioware have done great writing the romances, i only hope we do see more li stuff, as long as it stays optional and not forced, then those that want it can have it, and those that dont can do without it so everyone wins

People hit on others in real life, and sometimes they get turned down....it disappoints them of course but unless there of a special kind they get over it. I didnt mind turning Anders down as my male Hawke, he showed like....3 seconds of disappointment and forgot about it - can even become good friends with Hawke. So i dont mind what you would call forced as long as there is a clear way to say no, as there was in DA2.  

[shedevil3001]

i like just about everything in biowares games, of course there are some things i dont like, but nothing that prevents me from enjoying the game itself

oh when i said forced, what i mean is for those that dont like all the romance stuff they can avoid it and those that like them can have them, so that basically everyone wins

Modifié par shedevil3001, 24 septembre 2012 - 11:07 .

[EpicBoot2daFace]

Someone needs to create an offical romance thread or add a sub-forum. It's annoying having to sift through all these romance threads that talk about the same thing just with a different character.

[shedevil3001]

a combined romance thread, oh dear those never end well, liking a companion that others dont like usually leads to bad things worse than looking at the broodmother in awakening

[Shadow Fox]

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

op Looks like you would be happier playing a game like Skyrim. something i wont waste time or money on because of the shoddy way they handled romances.. Bioware is know n for their romances and is the main reason why I buy their games

IMO they need to divert More resource to enhancing the character interaction and romance area because they not put enough depth or content into them especially in ME3

What the hell I've heard ridiculous complaints about Skyrim but this is the stupidest one so far the  TES are not dating sims so what did you expect?

And frankly Skyrim's romances are more realistic for the medevalisc time period.

Well I think they're just fine the way they are I don't want these games to become simple dating sims.

[Direwolf0294]

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

NovaBlastMarketing wrote...

op Looks like you would be happier playing a game like Skyrim. something i wont waste time or money on because of the shoddy way they handled romances.. Bioware is know n for their romances and is the main reason why I buy their games

IMO they need to divert More resource to enhancing the character interaction and romance area because they not put enough depth or content into them especially in ME3

What the hell I've heard ridiculous complaints about Skyrim but this is the stupidest one so far the  TES are not dating sims so what did you expect?

And frankly Skyrim's romances are more realistic for the medevalisc time period.

Well I think they're just fine the way they are I don't want these games to become simple dating sims.

I loved Skyrim, but the romances were tacked on rubbish. Really disappointed with how they were handled. I wasn't expecting BioWare level romances, but I thought they'd at least be of the same quality as the Fable games. 

I don't see why people think including romances in an RPG = dating sim. That thought process just blows my mind. RPGs are all about stories and characters, how can anyone say no to meaningful interaction with characters in the world? 

[davepissedatending]

Tone down :/ I say rev up love the romances

[Overdosing]

*sips some beer*

No.

****** and sex.

That is all.

[artsangel]

I really like the amount of romance content we currently get, and I'm glad David says it's going to stay roughly the same. It's a huge improvement over something like Skyrim's "I'm wearing a necklace, marry me" "ok" without making it a huge focus of the game and turning it into a medieval relationship simulator. It allows you to feel closer to the characters and helps round out the overall story - it's like the romance subplots in almost any non-romance movie. It's not what the movie (or game) is about, but it makes the characters more human, relatable, and just provides a nice happy feeling when they get to be together despite all the dramas and dangers of the main plot surrounding them.