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Direwolf0294 wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

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op Looks like you would be happier playing a game like Skyrim. something i wont waste time or money on because of the shoddy way they handled romances.. Bioware is know n for their romances and is the main reason why I buy their games

IMO they need to divert More resource to enhancing the character interaction and romance area because they not put enough depth or content into them especially in ME3

What the hell I've heard ridiculous complaints about Skyrim but this is the stupidest one so far the  TES are not dating sims so what did you expect?

And frankly Skyrim's romances are more realistic for the medevalisc time period.

Well I think they're just fine the way they are I don't want these games to become simple dating sims.


I loved Skyrim, but the romances were tacked on rubbish. Really disappointed with how they were handled. I wasn't expecting BioWare level romances, but I thought they'd at least be of the same quality as the Fable games. 

I don't see why people think including romances in an RPG = dating sim. That thought process just blows my mind. RPGs are all about stories and characters, how can anyone say no to meaningful interaction with characters in the world? 

I'm still suprised people had any expectations for the marrige system at all considering their games aren't known for deep meaningful characters then again this is BSN...

Oh it's quite easy to reach that conculsion on here when you have people basicly saying they should prioritize the romance feature over others.*Like say combat and story*

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David Gaider wrote...

Adding double the content would require it to be a much more important part of the game. We're not going to do that.

While I like and enjoy the romantic content in the games -- I've certainly voiced my opinions of various aspects of it here on these forums -- I'm glad to read this.

Modifié par nightscrawl, 25 septembre 2012 - 03:30 .


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Lokiwithrope

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I just want more actual threads...

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 I actually wish the romances would last longer and be more elabourate. Imagine taking your guy/girl to the pub to chat about the days events, or strolling hand in hand through the woods when travelling. How about multicharacter dialogue just sitting around the fire discussing politics, religion and other subjects. I think the fact that they end as soon as your genitals cross paths is a pity.

It seems every RPG has a small band of people who claim to hate romances. The reason is generally because they want to be different and think being against that which is popular makes them "more hardcore"

Modifié par MrCrabby, 25 septembre 2012 - 03:51 .


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Lokiwithrope wrote...

I just want more actual threads...

Come on... as of this post there are 23 pages of threads in this sub-forum. They're not ALL romance threads, neither are they the majority of threads. But it IS a popular topic, everyone wants something different, so such threads are likely to be on the first page with several pages of posts inside. There isn't really a stigma against bumping or necroing old threads on the BSN, people do it routinely. Find a few that interest you and post in them.

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Sakanade wrote...

If you want romances in your games so much, go play a dating sim?


No..:ph34r:

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MrCrabby wrote...

 I actually wish the romances would last longer and be more elabourate. Imagine taking your guy/girl to the pub to chat about the days events, or strolling hand in hand through the woods when travelling. How about multicharacter dialogue just sitting around the fire discussing politics, religion and other subjects. I think the fact that they end as soon as your genitals cross paths is a pity.

It seems every RPG has a small band of people who claim to hate romances. The reason is generally because they want to be different and think being against that which is popular makes them "more hardcore"

It's only the bioware games where people make a big deal out of romances most other rpg players don't care about them.

Modifié par Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke, 25 septembre 2012 - 04:25 .


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Lokiwithrope wrote...

I just want more actual threads...


I started a thread on spec/storyinteraction, it's just no one cares. Romance is apparently a big thing for Bioware games. I can't actually say that I disagree, but that's definately not all there is to the game.

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The romances aren't a big part of the game at all; they mostly consist of 3-4 cheesy dialogue scenes and a cut-price "love scene" at the end. They don't intersect with the main plot at all.

However, a large and widely maligned contingent of the fanbase are inexplicably obsessed with them, to the point that at least 1/5 of all posts are related to romance, a rediculous fan attention to depth of content ratio. Doubtless these are the sort of people who kiss their Edward Cullen posters every morning and write unintentionally hilarious fanfiction about "twoo luv". Pay them no heed, OP, and rest assured that DA is, for the most part, a serious RPG series and not a toothless dating sim.

Modifié par AndrahilAdrian, 25 septembre 2012 - 04:48 .


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AndrahilAdrian wrote...

The romances aren't a big part of the game at all; they mostly consist of 3-4 cheesy dialogue scenes and a cut-price "love scene" at the end. They don't intersect with the main plot at all.

However, a large and widely maligned contingent of the fanbase are inexplicably obsessed with them, to the point that at least 1/5 of all posts are related to romance, a rediculous fan attention to depth of content ratio. Doubtless these are the sort of people who kiss their Edward Cullen posters every morning and write unintentionally hilarious fanfiction about "twoo luv". Pay them no heed, OP, and rest assured that DA is, for the most part, a serious RPG series and not a toothless dating sim.


Are you able to reassure me with your kind and wordsmitherised words that it won't be an action smash fest?

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the romance was never big part of bioware game, some fans just saw it as a big deal.
I don't think we can call a few unique dialogs and fade to black scene with 2 peoples
in undies as a major part of the game

although, I think it's one of the main reasons for peoples to buy the game.

Modifié par d-boy15, 25 septembre 2012 - 05:02 .


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AndrahilAdrian wrote...
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However, a large and widely maligned contingent of the fanbase are inexplicably obsessed with them, to the point that at least 1/5 of all posts are related to romance, a rediculous fan attention to depth of content ratio. Doubtless these are the sort of people who kiss their Edward Cullen posters every morning and write unintentionally hilarious fanfiction about "twoo luv".
*snip*


That's excactly the point. This ridiculous obsession with "romance" and "liasons" and "sexuality" have me wondering about the mental health of several of the posters.

It's a GAME, for crying out loud. And while romance can certainly be an integral and fun part of a game, it's rapidly becoming ridiculous when people ~demands~ bi-sexuality, this or that person as a liason, more romantic content and blah, blah, blah.

How about this: It's called Dragon Age III: Inquisitor. Maybe a vow of celibacy is required!!! maybe that could be an integral part of the plot! Maybe the protagonist ~does~love someone, but is forever barred from approaching him or her, because of religious demands?

But noooo..... we ~have~ to have romance, to the degree where the rest of the plot will have to give way for the demands from dissatisfied geeks who'd probably write hatemails to Tolkien, were he still alive, about Aragorn turning down Eowyn.

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It's not just a game. It's drama, comedy, etc. It's no different than going to the movies or theatre, or popping in an album and listening through. It's not just stats and mechanics, it's not an arcade quickie.

N7 Lisbeth wrote...

I'd say dialing up the romances would be a more welcome option. No need to wait until the end of the game to have it come together (ahem, no pun intended), and more dialogue and having it integrate into the plot would be nice as well.

Many romances in adventure stories do directly affect choices made and risks taken.


Agreed with this. Integrate the romances better into the main story, rather than treating them like side quests, and stop following essentially the same formula for every romance for every game. Dial up the intimacy about 3 notches, go full mature drama/dramedy in presentation, and alter the basic animation and physicality of the characters throughout the game, when in a romance. Much better option. :)

Modifié par cindercatz, 25 septembre 2012 - 05:18 .


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It is to be expected as we have zero information at this point in time.

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argan1985 wrote...

I've been away from these boards for a few years, and I can hardly believe my eyes now that I'm back. It seems at least a third of all game threads are in some way related to the romance options in the game. I can't believe that this is what RPGs have come to focus on.

Remember BG2? That was done in a good way, the romance was there as something in the background; adding a little bit to the story of the Bhaalspawn, if you will. But the way it was done in DA2 and the way it is focused on in "Things you want for Dragon Age 3"-threads is staggering.

Please, focus on the core gameplay mechanics and create a good RPG instead of spending a lot of resources on what in my opinion should just be secondary content.

I have a feeling that a lot of you may disagree with me, but it just feels like there are many other areas where resources would be better spent.


I agree with you, it should be it's own seperate catagory. on the discussion board.

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David Gaider wrote...

but even a dead clock is bound to be right at least twice a day. ;)


Unless it's one of those 24 hour clocks......

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There're a lot more girls/women playing games these days, so  more romance focus in RPG's, was inevitable.

Modifié par Yuqi, 25 septembre 2012 - 09:04 .


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I agree with another poster, just forget all the combat and make it a dating sim. Hell make everyone bisexual too, and let's cater to the need of those that love animals and get a lioness/lion for romance options. After all, all this spells, swords, killing monsters, looting, exploring and discovering just takes away from the game right? Namely humping anything that moves.

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M25105 wrote...

I agree with another poster, just forget all the combat and make it a dating sim. Hell make everyone bisexual too, and let's cater to the need of those that love animals and get a lioness/lion for romance options. After all, all this spells, swords, killing monsters, looting, exploring and discovering just takes away from the game right? Namely humping anything that moves.


*pats head*

There there.

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M25105 wrote...

I agree with another poster, just forget all the combat and make it a dating sim. Hell make everyone bisexual too, and let's cater to the need of those that love animals and get a lioness/lion for romance options. After all, all this spells, swords, killing monsters, looting, exploring and discovering just takes away from the game right? Namely humping anything that moves.

Because anyone who wants romance in videogames is not only a ****, but also rapes animals!

Good lord.

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:) Maybe a bit too far, but sometimes I wonder whether people actually care more about romance options for Dragon Age 3, then actual changes/improvement in the game and the overall atmosphere.

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Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...]I'm still suprised people had any expectations for the marrige system at all considering their games aren't known for deep meaningful characters then again this is BSN...



It's not like Bioware has deep meaningful characters then again this is BSN.

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Kroitz wrote...

It would be fun to watch how many people would still play Bioware games if you took out the dating sim aspect.

Just for that, I give positive vote.


Yes, Oh god yes.

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The romances are a vital mechanic to any Bioware game,they help suck the player in the game universe..........if you remove/ignore the deep character development and the romance elements then it's just not a Bioware game........the ability to bond and side with character team mates is why I play Bioware games.

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What's the point of companions if I can't **** them up the ass?