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Lord Aesir wrote...
Well, the supposed leak, which has been right so far, had a summary that said in no uncertain terms that the main character would be the Inquisitor. Something about "Taking up the mantle of the Inquisitor..." or something to that effect.



Here's the quote from the survey leak:


"From the ashes of that explosion something new arises: the Inquisition. As the Inquisitor, is falls to you to build up your power and martial your forces, uncover secrets and build connections across the world. You must explore forgotten spaces, uncover ancient mysteries and uproot those who would destroy the fabric of the world."

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 I was expecting to see this meme in this thread, and I was disappointed:

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The survey quote sort of makes the DA Inquisition sound sort like the 40K Inquisition

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Zevais wrote...

During the Inquisition of Spanish history, everyone was being questioned; the time period was crazy. Perhaps we may be evading the Inquistion for our own safety or the safety of our world.

The only way we can become safe is to discover the roots of the world epidemic and try to do something about it.

It would make sense from the Mage perspective when other theories make you question how they would become Inquisitors.

I am just throwing in my two cents. Agree and Disagree!



I hope PC indeed is an  Inquistor heartless and vile! It'd be awesome to( have an option to) play a character genuinely and sincerely evil for a change. Usually the dark side in practise means an annoying guy who saves the world as opposed to paladin who saves the world. Most evil deeds always happen in sidequests,very little ever carries over to what the entire games story actually is about. It'd be refreshing to be an evil guy pursuing evil goals.

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Humm come to think of it, I'm officially and formally guessing the following:

Two player characters. Same story told from POV of a Mage and an Inquisitor both.

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I hope that's not the case. I'd like to play as the Inquisition. I missed being part of a powerful group like the Grey Wardens in DA2.

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I hope it's something like this. I'm gonna join the rebel mages for sure - I don't wanna be some stupid inquisitor!

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LolaLei wrote...

This is something that only occurred to me yesterday (I'm a bit slow like that.)

I mean, just because the title is going to be called "Dragon Age 3: Inquisition" like the leaked survey suggested, doesn't mean everything else in the survey was legit... It could have been a lucky guess since there were a few hints about it in DA2 etc. With that in mind, maybe the "Inquisition" will be what the newly rebelled Seekers/Templars decide to rename themselves because they're going back to "the old ways" where they'd hunt/kill mages etc. Perhaps our protagonist won't be part of the Inquisition at all.


You, my good ser, just pointed out my exact thoughts on the subject. I prefer it that way as well, because my planned character is going to be a mage who loathe the templars much (At least in the beginning).

Besides, I'm sticking with what David Gaider said during an interview: ""It'd be interesting to see if the Inquisition ever rose up again."

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LolaLei wrote...

This is something that only occurred to me yesterday (I'm a bit slow like that.)

I mean, just because the title is going to be called "Dragon Age 3: Inquisition" like the leaked survey suggested, doesn't mean everything else in the survey was legit... It could have been a lucky guess since there were a few hints about it in DA2 etc. With that in mind, maybe the "Inquisition" will be what the newly rebelled Seekers/Templars decide to rename themselves because they're going back to "the old ways" where they'd hunt/kill mages etc. Perhaps our protagonist won't be part of the Inquisition at all.


Bioware's response to the "leak" was to get the pictures taken down and to speed up announcing the game, when they could easily have just gone "hahahaha no" if it wasn't true.

The leak is real.  Details may not reflect what's actually in the game - after all, the point of that sort of survey is presumably to work out what you should change - but the basic core is unlikely to shift massively.

Though I suppose they could have known it would likely leak and put in misinformation...

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I just hope we can choose I don't want to be forced into a fraction again

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Spanish inquisitor maybe it has something to do with antiva.

Modifié par sunnydxmen, 25 septembre 2012 - 07:06 .


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The Grey Nayr wrote...

So that's likely the origin of the title. Templars resume being the Inquisition and make everybody's lives hell. And by the end you'll probably get the choice to support or destroy them.

Lol Dragon Age 2: Part Deux.

Modifié par nightscrawl, 25 septembre 2012 - 09:29 .


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Wulfram wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

This is something that only occurred to me yesterday (I'm a bit slow like that.)

I mean, just because the title is going to be called "Dragon Age 3: Inquisition" like the leaked survey suggested, doesn't mean everything else in the survey was legit... It could have been a lucky guess since there were a few hints about it in DA2 etc. With that in mind, maybe the "Inquisition" will be what the newly rebelled Seekers/Templars decide to rename themselves because they're going back to "the old ways" where they'd hunt/kill mages etc. Perhaps our protagonist won't be part of the Inquisition at all.


Bioware's response to the "leak" was to get the pictures taken down and to speed up announcing the game, when they could easily have just gone "hahahaha no" if it wasn't true.

The leak is real.  Details may not reflect what's actually in the game - after all, the point of that sort of survey is presumably to work out what you should change - but the basic core is unlikely to shift massively.

Though I suppose they could have known it would likely leak and put in misinformation...

I wouldn't assume that would be enough proof if I were you. While it does make it look likely, it does not really make the leak 100% true. I don't know really what their reason for deleting the images is, but they would be really stupid if they think that would be enough to erase it (I'm assume people will tell me that they are).

Remember the original ME3 ending leak? That was false, and we got something else entierly.

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LolaLei wrote...

This is something that only occurred to me yesterday (I'm a bit slow like that.)

I mean, just because the title is going to be called "Dragon Age 3: Inquisition" like the leaked survey suggested, doesn't mean everything else in the survey was legit... It could have been a lucky guess since there were a few hints about it in DA2 etc. With that in mind, maybe the "Inquisition" will be what the newly rebelled Seekers/Templars decide to rename themselves because they're going back to "the old ways" where they'd hunt/kill mages etc. Perhaps our protagonist won't be part of the Inquisition at all.

Uh huh, keep telling yourself that.

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Izana wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

This is something that only occurred to me yesterday (I'm a bit slow like that.)

I mean, just because the title is going to be called "Dragon Age 3: Inquisition" like the leaked survey suggested, doesn't mean everything else in the survey was legit... It could have been a lucky guess since there were a few hints about it in DA2 etc. With that in mind, maybe the "Inquisition" will be what the newly rebelled Seekers/Templars decide to rename themselves because they're going back to "the old ways" where they'd hunt/kill mages etc. Perhaps our protagonist won't be part of the Inquisition at all.


Bioware's response to the "leak" was to get the pictures taken down and to speed up announcing the game, when they could easily have just gone "hahahaha no" if it wasn't true.

The leak is real.  Details may not reflect what's actually in the game - after all, the point of that sort of survey is presumably to work out what you should change - but the basic core is unlikely to shift massively.

Though I suppose they could have known it would likely leak and put in misinformation...

I wouldn't assume that would be enough proof if I were you. While it does make it look likely, it does not really make the leak 100% true. I don't know really what their reason for deleting the images is, but they would be really stupid if they think that would be enough to erase it (I'm assume people will tell me that they are).

Remember the original ME3 ending leak? That was false, and we got something else entierly.

Wasn't that ending from the original script that was chucked in development?

At any rate, why would they take down the pictures and ask people to remove the word by word quotes in favor of synopsises if they spoiled nothing?

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if we are not the inquisitior then what's the point of introducing a new protag

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Lord Aesir wrote...

Izana wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

This is something that only occurred to me yesterday (I'm a bit slow like that.)

I mean, just because the title is going to be called "Dragon Age 3: Inquisition" like the leaked survey suggested, doesn't mean everything else in the survey was legit... It could have been a lucky guess since there were a few hints about it in DA2 etc. With that in mind, maybe the "Inquisition" will be what the newly rebelled Seekers/Templars decide to rename themselves because they're going back to "the old ways" where they'd hunt/kill mages etc. Perhaps our protagonist won't be part of the Inquisition at all.


Bioware's response to the "leak" was to get the pictures taken down and to speed up announcing the game, when they could easily have just gone "hahahaha no" if it wasn't true.

The leak is real.  Details may not reflect what's actually in the game - after all, the point of that sort of survey is presumably to work out what you should change - but the basic core is unlikely to shift massively.

Though I suppose they could have known it would likely leak and put in misinformation...

I wouldn't assume that would be enough proof if I were you. While it does make it look likely, it does not really make the leak 100% true. I don't know really what their reason for deleting the images is, but they would be really stupid if they think that would be enough to erase it (I'm assume people will tell me that they are).

Remember the original ME3 ending leak? That was false, and we got something else entierly.

Wasn't that ending from the original script that was chucked in development?

At any rate, why would they take down the pictures and ask people to remove the word by word quotes in favor of synopsises if they spoiled nothing?

Like I said, I don't know what their reason behind the action is, but they should be smart enough to understand that wouldn't be enough to stop people's mouths. Besides, I'm not saying that the leak is false as a whole. I just think it's best to assume that it might not be entirely true. I mean, the whole the that someone is pulling the strings of the chaos of Thedas and the Inqusition will rise could very likely be true, but the whole fact that the PC is a part of the group might be false.

It's quite likely that there is something true in the leak, but I'm guessing not all of it is. 

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Izana wrote...

Like I said, I don't know what their reason behind the action is, but they should be smart enough to understand that wouldn't be enough to stop people's mouths. Besides, I'm not saying that the leak is false as a whole. I just think it's best to assume that it might not be entirely true. I mean, the whole the that someone is pulling the strings of the chaos of Thedas and the Inqusition will rise could very likely be true, but the whole fact that the PC is a part of the group might be false.

It's quite likely that there is something true in the leak, but I'm guessing not all of it is. 

...I think you're reaching, but hey, whatever floats your boat.  Fact is.  We know some of it's true and have no proof that any of it is false.

People need to stop with the assumption that the Inquisitors are anti-Mage.  The leak specifically calls it a new inquisition, as I recall.  This one likely founded by the Mage sympathizing Divine and for the purpose of tracking this puppeteer behind events, not mages.

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Lord Aesir wrote...

People need to stop with the assumption that the Inquisitors are anti-Mage.  The leak specifically calls it a new inquisition, as I recall.  This one likely founded by the Mage sympathizing Divine and for the purpose of tracking this puppeteer behind events, not mages.


This is the from Codex entry The Seekers of Truth:

"...the Inquisition once hunted heretics and cultists as well as mages, and their reign of terror ended only with the inception of the Circle of Magi. They became the Templar Order, for good or ill the watchers of the mages and the martial arm of the Chantry."

If the new Inquisition wanted to be neutral, why use a name with this history? What mage would want to join such a group even if it claims to be for another purpose?

Modifié par Keriana, 26 septembre 2012 - 12:10 .


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Keriana wrote...
This is the from Codex entry: The Seekers of Truth:

"...the Inquisition once hunted heretics and cultists as well as mages, and their reign of terror ended only with the inception of the Circle of Magi. They became the Templar Order, for good or ill the watchers of the mages and the martial arm of the Chantry."

If the new Inquisition wanted to be neutral, why use a name with this history? What mage would want to join such a group even if it claims to be for another purpose?

I know what the Inquisition is in the lore.  I just realize that an old name is not always indicative of who they are.  The Templars have no reason to rename themselves, the Templars are already mage hunters.  Also, consider the literal meaning of the term, an investigation.  This term, for all it's baggage, does not mean the old inquisition resurrected.  There is no proof of that.  The only information we have says that the Inquisition's purpose is to hunt a puppeteer in the shadows, not mages.  The name may simply indicate that, like the old Inquisition, the new one acts without supervision from another power like the Chantry.

Aside from references to a centuries dead organization, there is no convincing proof to say that the new Inquisition is anti Mage.  As for why a Mage would want to join, I imagine one would want to discover the true purpose of all the bloodshed.  (Personally, I doubt the protagonist will have any more choice than the various Warden Origins about joining)

Modifié par Lord Aesir, 26 septembre 2012 - 12:18 .


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Lord Aesir wrote...

Keriana wrote...
This is the from Codex entry: The Seekers of Truth:

"...the Inquisition once hunted heretics and cultists as well as mages, and their reign of terror ended only with the inception of the Circle of Magi. They became the Templar Order, for good or ill the watchers of the mages and the martial arm of the Chantry."

If the new Inquisition wanted to be neutral, why use a name with this history? What mage would want to join such a group even if it claims to be for another purpose?

I know what the Inquisition is in the lore.  I just realize that an old name is not always indicative of who they are.  The Templars have no reason to rename themselves, the Templars are already mage hunters.  Also, consider the literal meaning of the term, an investigation.  This term, for all it's baggage, does not mean the old inquisition resurrected.  There is no proof of that.  The only information we have says that the Inquisition's purpose is to hunt a puppeteer in the shadows, not mages.  The name may simply indicate that, like the old Inquisition, the new one acts without supervision from another power like the Chantry.

Aside from references to a centuries dead organization, there is no convincing proof to say that the new Inquisition is anti Mage.  As for why a Mage would want to join, I imagine one would want to discover the true purpose of all the bloodshed.  (Personally, I doubt the protagonist will have any more choice than the various Warden Origins about joining)


It makes sense, I'll give you that much. But I think the reson why many are not convinced that the Inquisition is what the leak tells us is true is that they were the original mage-hunters and what Inquisition means in real life. While the term "Inquisition" is different in the DA world from our world, they are still quite similar when it comes to heretic hunting. If the "new" Inquisition is a neutral group that what the leak describes it to be, then they wouldn't be an Inquisition in first place. 

Now you also say it does not make sense for the defected Templars and Seekers to call themself the Inquisition. I say, it does. The ancient group of mage and heretic hunters became the Templar order and the Seekers of Truth when they joined with the Chantry. When both groups argeed that the Nevarran Accord is null and void because the Circle is no more, they don't reconize the Chanty's authority anymore and decides to hunt mages their own way. It just seems logical to call themselves the Inquisition once again if they are not under Chantry rule. There are known Seekers who are still loyal to the Chantry, and they still call themselves "Seekers". In a dark age like this, it could be a way to tell who belongs to the Chantry and who is not. 

Think of it like this: The mage hunters were known as the Templar Order and the Seekers of Truth when they are under the authority of the Chantry. When they are on their own, they are known as the Inquisition.


I'm not saying that what you're saying is wrong. You can tell me "I told you so" if the leak was correct in the next few months if you want to. I'm just saying that we should not assume too much of what lies in store for us. Wait and see is all we can do now.   

Modifié par Izana, 26 septembre 2012 - 02:17 .


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I believe the Inquisition will be neutral. What I'm sceptical about is this making sense.

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Being that this is "after" the destruction of the chantry in Kirkwall, maybe there'll be some way for a mage to work for this inquisition? If they have to fight mages even more, it might help to have a few on your side.

That said, I too am skeptical this will make sense. Unless they limit character creation even further than they have in previous games.

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Lord Aesir wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

This is something that only occurred to me yesterday (I'm a bit slow like that.)

I mean, just because the title is going to be called "Dragon Age 3: Inquisition" like the leaked survey suggested, doesn't mean everything else in the survey was legit... It could have been a lucky guess since there were a few hints about it in DA2 etc. With that in mind, maybe the "Inquisition" will be what the newly rebelled Seekers/Templars decide to rename themselves because they're going back to "the old ways" where they'd hunt/kill mages etc. Perhaps our protagonist won't be part of the Inquisition at all.

Uh huh, keep telling yourself that.


Er, don't be a dick.

I was merely suggesting a possible alternative. It doesn't bother me either way whether we play as the Inquisitor or not. 

Modifié par LolaLei, 28 septembre 2012 - 03:38 .


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nightscrawl wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

So that's likely the origin of the title. Templars resume being the Inquisition and make everybody's lives hell. And by the end you'll probably get the choice to support or destroy them.

Lol Dragon Age 2: Part Deux.


Except that you don't destroy the Templars in either choice in DAII. You kill Meredith(and the crazy **** deserves it,) you just kill a bunch of them in one choice, which doesn't make much of a dent in the order.

Plus the New Inquisition will be different than the Templars anyway. Before, the Templars power was constrained by the Chantry, there was abuse, but they were held back. When Lambert divorced the Templars and Seekers from the Chantry, he said from there on they would be handling the mages the way they saw fit. Meaning they're going to get a lot meaner.

Also the way David Gaider put it before, the Inquisition was founded to bring order during a chaotic time, more problems than just mages were happening, so the New Inquisition will probably cause problems not just for mages, but all orders. The Grey Wardens, the Qunari, the countries, and the Chantry.