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[Jalfraezy]

It would be better if everybody would use consumables, ammo powers etc. Everybody stands a better chance

[K9lArthur]

Been playing ME3 MP since the beta and launch, recently more on and off, and I'm still at N7 350 because promoting is almost pointless. Although if I spent more time playing, rather than lurking on the forums, my N7 could have been over 2000 by now. So to the OP: NO.

[nanotm]

i dunno where people get that n7 of 120 means you spent at least 5 mill of credits though, my n7 is over 400 purely because i promoted a lot in the first few days of playing, my manifest is still weak aded to which i worked out the other day i havent even erarned more than 3 million credits, i just payed real money for a lot of pixels in the game, cos i realised on my first game that wihtout actually getting some better gear i wasnt going ot enjoy playing mp very much, i sill havent soloed a game even on bronze and half the time i miss something really important like the spawn right beside me and end up lettign the team down no matter what level i'm playing, oh that nad my internet connection is so finickety that 90% of the time i load into an existing game and end up on the wrong dificulty, dead on the wrong char/build/gear for most of the game. that and of course the inevitable fact i end up spending more than half the time i play getting disconected from server issues, always great to miss out on rewards because you dc right before the rewards notice><, i wouldnt worry about how good or bad others are, if you cant survive a wave solo your in the wrong dificulty period

[Hoz_Hun]

I'm N7 1200+ and I'm not supporting this idea.

1. There is always an option to leave the lobby if you feel uncomfortable with the current teammates.
2. There is also an option to kick the one you don't want to play, and if the others agreeing with you they will support and eliminate the poor guy.
3. There is an option to start a private match and play with friends you choose.

Besides all of that I find entertaining to play with low N7, newbie or unskilled players. It is another way to rise the challenging level of the game. We all know how different could be a platinum level (or other levels) from each other depending simply the players itselfs. Also I like to help others. Not every time of course. But If I have a mood for some quality games I have the options above. Best is the 3th one.

[DBL_ZA]

I often play platinum (N7 1650, i've stopped promoting now, skill and N7 rank do not correlate at all) and i usually heavily outscore players of N7 2k+, not to mention have to revive them every two seconds. It's too easy to buy your way to a high N7 ranking with your credit card, so N7 can't be used as a yardstick. You just have to take what you get, expect the worst, hope for the best, and see what happens

[Astartes Marine]

 I'd say at least 120.  That way all of that person's classes are fully powered and they've probably spent some time playing as each class and learning the pros and cons so they may be able to utilize them more effectively.

Of course the down side is that they might not have played as all or even many of the classes and just spent creds and got character cards.  Can't get it perfect.  But at least they'd have guaranteed level 20 characters so they wouldn't be TOTALLY defenseless.

[Igipopp]

Astartes Marine wrote...

 I'd say at least 120.  That way all of that person's classes are fully powered and they've probably spent some time playing as each class and learning the pros and cons so they may be able to utilize them more effectively.

Of course the down side is that they might not have played as all or even many of the classes and just spent creds and got character cards.  Can't get it perfect.  But at least they'd have guaranteed level 20 characters so they wouldn't be TOTALLY defenseless.

The Emperor protects.

[Tankcommander]

No, N7 means about as much as the color of your character lights.

[Jason76]

I have a rating of 450. Simply because I don't promote that much. That's it.

OP, I hope one day you end up with that one player like I did. Rating of more than 6000 who kept dying dying dying because they were so lousy (I kid you not). The player ran out of medigel at round 3 on SILVER. I was wtf...

[tMc Tallgeese]

N7 Restriction of 500?

Stop all problem matches they say?

TROLL CHALLENGE ACCEPTED. --BSN

[kingvenom41392]

you guys all preach about 120s but the lowest good player ive met is 250 and hes hardly geared hes just smart a 120 ungeared on platinum as good as they arent isnt going to work all the 120s left arent team players there selfish and dont get things done and i wont reply to argue as at this point you know your incosiderate and its arguing would just be childish

[regack]

Tankcommander wrote...

No, N7 means about as much as the color of your character lights.

I would like a better color picker for the lights, I don't find the limited choices for lights to fit with my asthetic.  That said... N7 means less than the color of your lights...

[CROAT_56]

your N7 rating has nothing to do with how good you are. I've seen 3000s that are as bad as 30s in bronze and sub 100s that are good in gold. There is no basis to institute a N7 requirement into plat matches.

Let me put it this way 120 is max N7 without any promotions so someone who played till they maxed there characters and just played all level 20 correctors is as good if not better than those who promote every chance they get.

[X M3TH0D1C4L X]

CROAT_56 wrote...

your N7 rating has nothing to do with how good you are. I've seen 3000s that are as bad as 30s in bronze and sub 100s that are good in gold. There is no basis to institute a N7 requirement into plat matches.

Let me put it this way 120 is max N7 without any promotions so someone who played till they maxed there characters and just played all level 20 correctors is as good if not better than those who promote every chance they get.

Pretty much this. I have also played with high level N7's and they were really bad, but not all are bad.

Instead of requiring a certain N7 rank, maybe Platinum should require a certain number of successful gold matches, certain amount of hours played, etc. Something along those lines.

Modifié par X M3TH0D1C4L X, 27 septembre 2012 - 01:24 .

[CROAT_56]

I could see that being a good idea maybe 40 hours

[comeatmeguy]

N7 rank means nothing.. I can beat an N7 rank 8000 by double his score or more (my N7 rank is 1041).

[AustereLemur799]

I can see your point. Unfortunately a high N7 rank doesn't guarantee that you're an awesome player. People do have bad matches too. On the other hand, a higher N7 rank is at least more comforting that the person has experience. Experience in this game counts, despite what people say.

At the end of the day, since everyone has different preferences about promoting; it's kind of a no-win situation. The most you can really do is judge people on their loadout (and I'm not saying that even determines whether or not a player is good or bad).

I stay out of Platinum period. The majority of people I've had the misfortune of playing with on there are missile glitchers, which obviously means they don't have the skills to be there in the first place. So, in that respect, people who are there and maybe wipe in an early wave deserve credit for playing the game earnestly and giving it a good go.

[SOMETHING_FOR_NOTHING]

nope


ive seen a N7 of 80+ who actually knows how to play in platinum far better than baddie scrubs with stat padded N7

[AustereLemur799]

You know, it's a little pointless to have an argument about N7 ranks in the first place.

A lot does actually hinge on what character you play during a match. For instance, destroyers, furies, krentinels and lift grenade-spamming asari vanguards are scoreboard leaders than, say, a shadow or a human sentinel (in certain sitauations - I'm only making an example).

It also depends on what enemy faction you're playing against. Tech powers are generally more effective against geth, just as biotics are most effective against Reapers. Conversely, biotics could have a harder time against geth, likewise tech classes against Reapers.

A good player, regardless of N7 rank, is someone who show versatility and adapt to any given situation while playing to their strengths and overcoming their weaknesses.

An N7 80 something outscoring an N7 3000 something is really a moot point to me. Doesn't mean anything.

Modifié par AustereLemur799, 27 septembre 2012 - 02:19 .

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

kingvenom41392 wrote...

you guys all preach about 120s but the lowest good player ive met is 250 and hes hardly geared hes just smart a 120 ungeared on platinum as good as they arent isnt going to work all the 120s left arent team players there selfish and dont get things done and i wont reply to argue as at this point you know your incosiderate and its arguing would just be childish

I don't understand a single word of what you're trying to say. 

[SavagelyEpic]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

kingvenom41392 wrote...

you guys all preach about 120s but the lowest good player ive met is 250 and hes hardly geared hes just smart a 120 ungeared on platinum as good as they arent isnt going to work all the 120s left arent team players there selfish and dont get things done and i wont reply to argue as at this point you know your incosiderate and its arguing would just be childish

I don't understand a single word of what you're trying to say. 

I'm also unfamiliar with this particular dialect.

Tronar wrote...

I think the OP has a point. Platinum is the hardest difficulty and there are three easier levels for a reason! There are always the few exceptions, but most people will not succeed without at least having some decent weapons, putting on good equipment and bringing a certain amount of experience with them.

The few cases I am choosing "Platinum Quick Match", because none of my Gaming Buddies are online, I've ended up way too often in lobbies full of low ranked N7s (<500) with weird or no equipment at all. I've even heard comments like "Yeah, we rock on Platinum. We make it to Wave 3 most of the times". Seriously?

Sorry, but people who don't even know that two players deactivating a device at the same time does NOT speed up the deactivation process shouldn't be playing Platinum. Period!

A minimum N7 Rank of 500 would definitely have my support and benefite both parties as outlined by the OP. Those players can still play Gold and still be overwhelmed (and maybe be happy, that they made it to Wave 6 most of the times).

I am not saying this, because my Rank is >500. I intentionally didn't even start playing Gold before I was in that range BTW. Because I wanted to be solid in Silver first and make sure I can carry my weight and have decent equipment before entering Random Gold lobbies.

Yes, there are always exceptions and there are people with a N7 Rank of 150 who might rock Platinum. But I've never seen any of them. Any decent players I have seen so far had a higher level. And those few shouldn't have a problem to Level up beyond 500 within less than two weeks, since any promotion round of all your 6 characters immediately gives you 180 rank points.

The discusion if N7 Rank is a good indicator or not is pointless beyond that. As I said, there are always exceptions and examples for both. But one thing can't be discarded: Someone with a Rank >500 has at least played a certain amount of games and thus gained a certain amount of experience and equipment. So he still might suck because of bad skill, but at least he knows that you stay with the Drone to make it move faster and that a Javelin and a Typhoon might not be the optimal loadout for an Adept.

I think it is annoying to have to leave so many lobbies because they are full of unexperienced players or in my own lobbies tell players entering with a Rank 10 that they most likely just made a mistake and didn't really want to play Platinum over and over again. I don't have a problem carrying people through Silver or Gold and answer all their questions during the game. But on Platinum people can actually cause a lot of problems by blocking spawns in the right locations or making an objective harder than it has to be just by being in the wrong place all the time.

Lawl. What a greaseball. BuckshotSamurai's words fit perfectly here.


Sorry Tronar, misinterpreted your post. Thanks for clearing that up in another thread.

Modifié par SavagelyEpic, 30 septembre 2012 - 02:51 .

[DHKany]

Kalas321 wrote...

PsychoticBiotic wrote...

No.

[The Renegade Fem-Shep]

tl;dr....oh and

DHKany wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

PsychoticBiotic wrote...

No.

[parico]

Basing it on N7 rank i vote no. Should it be unlockable maybe. I would have liked it if they made a ranking system or kept track of it somehow. I mean most games you have to beat once to play the hardest difficulty. My idea was you have to beat x number of bronze before playing silver x number of silver before gold etc. Play platinum with your friends or don't play is my advice most pugs are leaches. I stopped playing gold and platinum with people who wont use consumables or are bringing avenger 1s and my sanity is better for it.

[oO Stryfe Oo]

"My rank is <insert any number over 120 here> and I can outscore players ranked in the thousands!"

...That's how I'm reading a lot of these posts. Of course, most go on to state that N7 means nothing, which is true, but only after N7 120. Before that, assume noob status, and you'll most likely be spot on the money.