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[Lord_Dweedle]

 Or the players love interest?

seems to me it would be alot better than having the star kid...

just a thought.

[Argolas]

Lord_Dweedle wrote...

 Or the players love interest?

Then I would accidantly pick Refusal because I would feel insulted.

[Lord_Dweedle]

Argolas wrote...

Lord_Dweedle wrote...

 Or the players love interest?

Then I would accidantly pick Refusal because I would feel insulted.

why? it would seem more personal than a kid that shepard dosnt know

[Jadebaby]

No, I like it being the kid because the dreams foreshadow the catalyst as a bad person.

[Argolas]

Lord_Dweedle wrote...

Argolas wrote...

Lord_Dweedle wrote...

 Or the players love interest?

Then I would accidantly pick Refusal because I would feel insulted.

why? it would seem more personal than a kid that shepard dosnt know

I do not want any reaper overlord in Shepard´s head. "Catalyst" should keep it professional. I always found it disturbing that this AI has access to Shepard´s mind.

[Village_Idiot]

This would add fuel to the "Catalyst is deceiving Shepard" fire. Playing on Shepard's emotions would come off as (more) manipulative.

[fchopin]

The kid is perfect, you cannot improve on perfection.

[Argolas]

Shadrach 88 wrote...

This would add fuel to the "Catalyst is deceiving Shepard" fire. Playing on Shepard's emotions would come off as (more) manipulative.

He already is playing with Shepard´s emotions. Shepard saw the kid die and it haunted him in his dreams ever since.

[SpamBot2000]

Shepard's dreams would have to be about strippers too. Hmmm.... it would make sense in that way at least.

[shodiswe]

Personaly I would have prefered it if the hologram had depicted the citadel... since that is the Catalysts true form...

[shepskisaac]

Of course it would've been better. Child acting influences our perception of this character heavily. Had it been Ash/Kaidan (whoever died on Virmire), or Avina, or yes, even a stripper NPC, as long as with an adult voice of a capable actor, the reaction would've been better.

[Gandamack]

It would have been something my Shepard thought more about than the kid so...yeah it would have been better.

[Taboo]

It would have really ****ed with my poor Shepard's head if the Catalyst had chosen Miranda's shape and didn't talk with her voice.

[JBPBRC]

Jar Jar Binks would've been better. The image of Jar Jar is familiar to many for wrecking one franchise, wouldn't have been as much of a shock.

[dreamgazer]

Fine pole-dancing moves would've probably confused Shepard even more in the decision chamber.

Serious answer: if the Catalyst had taken the form of someone familiar to Shepard, someone who had died or could die at the hands of the conflict (survivor or fatality at Virmire, love interest, Anderson, anyone), it would've driven the choice much more easily towards destroy for retribution's sake. The child evokes---or, more accurately, attempts to evoke---thoughts of the future and the innocents who couldn't fight back and perished in the war, where other forms would've provoked anger, vengeance, and a finite solution. The catalyst doesn't want that.

True neutrality would've been the form of Avina, the ever-present VI on the Citadel, which would've been really interesting with a few script tweaks. The child from the ponderous, dreary forced nightmares is easily the most manipulative visualization the Reaper collective intelligence could take, in terms of leading Shepard towards the non-destroy choices.

[DirtyPhoenix]

hell yes, one of those asari strippers from purgatory/omega.

[JBPBRC]

dreamgazer wrote...

 The child evokes---or, more accurately, attempts to evoke---thoughts of the future and the innocents who couldn't fight back and perished in the war, where other forms would've provoked anger, vengeance, and a finite solution. The catalyst doesn't want that.

Huh. Guess that didn't work on me. I was so angry of chasing the damn kid in the dream sequences that taking the child's form guaranteed me choosing the Red option just to KILL IT WITH FIRE!

[dreamgazer]

JBPBRC wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

 The child evokes---or, more accurately, attempts to evoke---thoughts of the future and the innocents who couldn't fight back and perished in the war, where other forms would've provoked anger, vengeance, and a finite solution. The catalyst doesn't want that.

Huh. Guess that didn't work on me. I was so angry of chasing the damn kid in the dream sequences that taking the child's form guaranteed me choosing the Red option just to KILL IT WITH FIRE!

Well, nobody said its mind games actually had to work. 

[Cutlass Jack]

dreamgazer wrote...
True neutrality would've been the form of Avina, the ever-present VI on the Citadel, which would've been really interesting with a few script tweaks.

I've said this myself in the past. Avina would have been an incredible way to go. It would have harkened beautifully to the ending of ME1. In that something familiar and seemingly irrelevant you keep seeing is actually incredibly important.

Instead of the "WTF" moments we got with the Kid (and Baby Reaper in ME2), it would have done the reverse. Connected all three games in a way that makes you feel stupid for not having seen it all sooner.

[JBPBRC]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...
True neutrality would've been the form of Avina, the ever-present VI on the Citadel, which would've been really interesting with a few script tweaks.

I've said this myself in the past. Avina would have been an incredible way to go. It would have harkened beautifully to the ending of ME1. In that something familiar and seemingly irrelevant you keep seeing is actually incredibly important.

Instead of the "WTF" moments we got with the Kid (and Baby Reaper in ME2), it would have done the reverse. Connected all three games in a way that makes you feel stupid for not having seen it all sooner.

Avina would've been great. It would've brought up thoughts of "Has it been watching me this whole time?" and etc. Hell, the Shepard VI program would've worked better than the damn vent/dream kid.

[Lawrence0294]

If it was something like Hal 9000, then it would've taken away the impression the Reapers are just some childen's toys.

[JBPBRC]

kratos0294 wrote...

If it was something like Hal 9000, then it would've taken away the impression the Reapers are just some childen's toys.

Or a Dalek.

Shepard: Why are you doing this?

StarDalek: So you will be EX-TERM-IN-ATED!

[Wulfram]

Avina would have made the "Why didn't the Catalyst do anything in ME1?" questions more obviously problematic.

Modifié par Wulfram, 25 septembre 2012 - 02:30 .

[Cutlass Jack]

JBPBRC wrote...

Avina would've been great. It would've brought up thoughts of "Has it been watching me this whole time?" and etc. Hell, the Shepard VI program would've worked better than the damn vent/dream kid.

Yep and it would explain why it had such personal interest in Shepard. You were having polite conversation with it for three games now.

Though I must admit, if it used the Shep VI interface to talk with you, that would have been hysterical.

[JBPBRC]

Wulfram wrote...

Avina would have made the "Why didn't the Catalyst do anything in ME1?" questions more obviously problematic.

True, but the visual appearance would've been better at least. It still raises the question as to why Sovereign didn't just wake the guy up when he was interfacing with the entire Citadel network in relative peace and quiet before Shepard reopened the Citadel walls.