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[RedArmyShogun]

WHY DO YOU HATE ZEEE FRENCH SIRA OP? WE VEE KILL FOOR DIS OUTRAGE!!!

[Wulfram]

Orlais is a place where the brightness and beauty enjoyed by the upper classes is set against the squalor and oppression of the lower classes. Where the politeness and festivities mask hatred, jealousy and deadly intrigue.

It fits in perfectly well with the DA setting.

[Alikain]

whats wrong with the Orlesian accents it sound perfect in my ears and No am not from a French speaking country. the way i see it, it's good that we are going to orlais because we need to save the best part for last.

[Arcadian Legend]

I haven't got a problem with Orlais. Truth be told I'm just happy it's not Tevinter. Otherwise it'd just mostly be Kirkwall all over again but on a much bigger scale, and with slaves. Same Imperium architecture, blood mages everywhere etc.

Plus there are a few places in Orlais I'm kind of itching to explore. Val Royeaux being one of them. Some lesser centralised nations might be neat to go to as well, like the Anderfels, Nevarra and so on. Honestly even other Free Marches city states, so long as they aren't Kirkwall.

[Savber100]

YobelX wrote...

Look:

a) about the accent - yes, it's natural for different part of the world inside DA to speak with different accent, but for heaven's sake - NOT FRENCH. It's simply stupid, for the reason enlisted as . But for now, please accept that: in English, if you wanna mark that someone is different than you, you can easily make it with clear American accent, British accent etc. On personal level I won't ever tolerate French accent in DA, becouse it's ugly (sorry).

 

You see that's YOUR opinion. You can have your opinion and if you don't want to buy DA3 because it has lot of French people, well it's YOUR decision. I'm personally getting tired of hearing a bunch of American, British accent being the center accent for almost all fantasy settings. 

YobelX wrote... 
If we still talking lore - look. Just look. We have Kirkwall - dirty city full of crime, that smells. We have a world that is full of darkspawn, blood magic, normal magic, demons, Blight, etc. And now we are taking part of that world and make it ridiculously colorfull. Look where this logic can take us:

- Battlefield-like, brutal world as least in terms of graphic design Serious Sam 3. Really? Series that always had been 'out there' and satire, suddenly becomes serious? It's not fun anymore!

- We take World of Warcraft world, make a square, throw in it Dante's Inferno level of gore, graphic design, message, etc. Does it speak to you? Really?

Orlais, apart from my personal opinion about French culture being boring and pretentious, is a land so colorfull, that doesn't blend in well with the surroundings. Everywhere else there a Blight, there's a war, there's conflict between the Chantry and mages and etc. And only in Orlais we have laughter at the level of lunacy.

Part me, I really like comedy and fun. I find Oghren, Alistair, Anders, Zevran and even Merill commentaries hilarious. And I want this level of comedy in DA III and future games. But Orials isn't fun! It's anti-logic ( section), and it's pathetic rather than funny.

Wow where to begin? 

Ok first we have NEVER been to Orlais so I don't see how one can already leap into conclusions. 

Second, Orlais has been the center of corruption and death judging from what Leliana said. It's a dying empire along with a current MASSIVE civil war brewing with the empress currently MIA due to events in Dragon Age: Asunder along with being the CENTER of the Chantry schism and the Templar-Mage War as the Divine (who lives in the chas recently lost control of the Tempar and the Circles. If anything, the "colorfulness" of Orlais displays an even disturbing threat to the DA universe where evil is subtle and unseen for once. 

Third, check up on your history of the world because  even during the Dark Age there were always vast sprawling cities that were "colorful". Look at Rome, look at Constantinople, and look at Paris during those times... 

FInally, your entire argument is pretty much French people are a joke hence Orlais is a joke hence DA3 is a joke. 

Very circular and biased if you asked me... 

Modifié par Savber100, 25 septembre 2012 - 01:47 .

[Yobel]

SpunkyMonkey wrote...

A real world Empire consists of various countries, cultures and languages/accents, so why can this not be the case for DA 3?

God... It can't because the land of total, stupid CLOWNS doesn't work well with the rest of dark and brutal universe. Someone else before you wrote: Orlais is a part of the DA world, therefore it stays.

No, it isn't part of the world, it should not be in first place, that's the whole point<_< But if it is, due to some ridiculous idea making Origins, make it one character in DA III, one small town, and that's it. Orlais sucks. Maybe in another game, but not here.

What you are talking about SpunkyMonkey, other cultures, etc. is perfectly shown in the Qunari plot. Different culture, different beliefs, etc. But the land of CLOWNS? Nooooo waaaaay...

Modifié par YobelX, 25 septembre 2012 - 01:49 .

[Savber100]

YobelX wrote...

SpunkyMonkey wrote...

A real world Empire consists of various countries, cultures and languages/accents, so why can this not be the case for DA 3?

God... It can't because the land of total, stupid CLOWNS doesn't work well with the rest of dark and brutal universe. Someone else before you wrote: Orlais is a part of the DA world, therefore it stays.

No, it isn't part of the world, it should not be in first place, that's the whole point<_< But if it is, due to some ridiculous idea making Origins, make it one character in DA III, one small town, and that's it. Orlais sucks. Maybe in another game, but not here.

What you are talking about SpunkyMonkey, other cultures, etc. is perfectly shown in the Qunari plot. Different culture, different beliefs, etc. But the land of CLOWNS? Nooooo waaaaay...

You're not making any sense... 

Repeat to yourself what the guy said again. He said that since Orlais is a huge empire why can't it be a diverse bunch of people? Just because I meet several Americans doesn't mean you all speak English or with a specific accent... 

You keep complaining about the how Orlais doesn't fit but your only reason is that it's comedic and soft Oh? The nation that ended several Blights along with being the center of the Chantry and brought Feredaln to it knees for nearly centuries is a joke to you? Come on... Orlais has more backstabbers and corruption than any nation on Thedas (maybe only matched by the Tenvinter Imperium). 

Modifié par Savber100, 25 septembre 2012 - 01:55 .

[Maclimes]

Fun fact: You have no choice in the matter. The game WILL be set at least partially (and probably a good majority of the time) in Orlais. You can say "No" all you want, it won't change that fact.

Focus your energy on things that might actually change. (Which, I admit, I'm not entirely clear on).

[StaceysChain]

scyphozoa wrote...

I'm just happy to be seeing any new areas. Tevinter, Rivain, Anderfels, Nevarra, or Orlais. I just want new and more, I expect all locations to be uniquely awesome.

This!

[SpunkyMonkey]

YobelX wrote...

SpunkyMonkey wrote...

A real world Empire consists of various countries, cultures and languages/accents, so why can this not be the case for DA 3?

God... It can't because the land of total, stupid CLOWNS doesn't work well with the rest of dark and brutal universe. Someone else before you wrote: Orlais is a part of the DA world, therefore it stays.

No, it isn't part of the world, it should not be in first place, that's the whole point<_< But if it is, due to some ridiculous idea making Origins, make it one character in DA III, one small town, and that's it. Orlais sucks. Maybe in another game, but not here.

What you are talking about SpunkyMonkey, other cultures, etc. is perfectly shown in the Qunari plot. Different culture, different beliefs, etc. But the land of CLOWNS? Nooooo waaaaay...

Cheers Savber100, glad you see my point.

YobelX, I think you've missed my point entirely - ask yourself what an EMPIRE is..........

An Empire is not a Country - it is not a single nation with 1 culture, 1 language and 1 accent. The British Empire included India, Africa etc, - people in these areas did not all speak with a British accent.

Ergo, there's nothing to say that everyone in the Orlaisian EMPIRE will all be speaking French or with a French accent. It could actually lead to a superb diversity of culture and accents.

Modifié par SpunkyMonkey, 25 septembre 2012 - 02:02 .

[Applepie_Svk]

franciscoamell wrote...

Tevinter is the only country where magic is legal, could anywhere be more awesome? Orlais is too much about the Chantry and stuff.

In every country is magic legal, difference is betwen the order and corruption - Tevinter is still running in ancient footsteps of their predecessors with blood magic, chaos and yes slavery - guess what´s cause the Darkspawns, pride of Tevinter´s magisters which were hungry for power and knowlendge.

[SpunkyMonkey]

Applepie_Svk wrote...

franciscoamell wrote...

Tevinter is the only country where magic is legal, could anywhere be more awesome? Orlais is too much about the Chantry and stuff.

In every country is magic legal, difference is betwen the order and corruption - Tevinter is still running in ancient footsteps of their predecessors with blood magic, chaos and yes slavery - guess what´s cause the Darkspawns, pride of Tevinter´s magisters which were hungry for power and knowlendge.

Certainly sounds like a great place to liberate! (or destroy)

[Yobel]

For God's sake... Can anyone actually read my posts? I am not questioning the idea of an Empire, living through Blights, etc. I am questioning of level of humor that is low. I am questioning the idea of the Empire of idiots, dancing around with their fancy clothes, and around are people who actually look like they are fighting Blight. Armour, language, real problems oppose to just the huge impression everything is funny.

Orleasians seems to be a bunch of idiots who are too stupid to be killed by darkspawn. Maybe they are darkspawn themselves, who knows. Orlais doesn't fit within DA universe. End of story.

Modifié par YobelX, 25 septembre 2012 - 02:22 .

[Cutlass Jack]

So because we've seen one Orlesian fancy party, you assume the entire country is exactly like that?

Its also worth pointing out normally there's not a Blight going on in Thedas. And the last one was centered in Ferelden. And I seem to recall those partying Orlesians you mention who are unprepared to fight Darkspawn coming to help and getting stopped at the border by someone or other...

Modifié par Cutlass Jack, 25 septembre 2012 - 02:29 .

[SpunkyMonkey]

YobelX wrote...

For God's sake... Can anyone actually read my posts? I am not questioning the idea of an Empire, living through Blights, etc. I am questioning of level of humor that is low. I am questioning the idea of the Empire of idiots, dancing around with their fancy clothes, and around are people who actually look like they are fighting Blight. Armour, language, real problems oppose to just the huge impression everything is funny.

Orleasians seems to be a bunch of idiots who are too stupid to be killed by darkspawn. Maybe they are darkspawn themselves, who knows. Orlais doesn't fit within DA universe. End of story.

Yes we can read your posts and you can't seem to grasp the concept that an Empire is a massive, multi-cultural, multi-accented essence with multiple nationalies and subsequent offshoots.

Saying that "Orlais doesn't fit within DA universe" is bracketing all Orlaisions into one stereotype - not all members of the British empire were British, and not all Orlaisions have to be like your typical Olaision perception which you've based on a handful of characters in previous games.

Picturing the whole of this empire as a bunch of fancy noble clowns is very narrow minded.

Modifié par SpunkyMonkey, 25 septembre 2012 - 02:37 .

[Jackums]

franciscoamell wrote...

I say yes to Tevinter.

[Stormghost]

I'm not fussed about where the next game is set, providing it's a well-developed and interesting story.

I think there's a fair bit of opposition to the Orlesian setting because of the, shall we say, 'theatrical' Orlesians that have appeared in the previous games. I think some people didn't quite get the joke that the portrayal of Orlesians was in reference to the medieval stereotypes that the English had of the French, as pretentious and overly fancy.

If an Orlesian setting was done tastefully, with toned down accents and a more realistic portrayal of medieval/Renaissance France, then it should be a great setting indeed.

However, the OP seems to have a problem with the French generally, so I doubt he'll be satisfied unless Orlais is cut out entirely.

[spinachdiaper]

i'm not happy with DA3 being in Orlais, but if it has a lot of ****ty french maids and mimes i can punch in the face i'll put up with it

[Wulfram]

I don't think Orlais is very imperial these days. It's reduced to basically it's core territory, which would thus have been under the same government for centuries and thus probably isn't especially diverse.

[The Minority]

Sandal will be in Orlais. So we will be in Orlais. Get over it.

[Darth Death]

Tevinter or die trying.

[rolson00]

hmm i dont really like france the accent irritats me also!
i just hope you get to choose where the main charectar is from mind you i thought they were going to do a fereldon invasion of orlais.
i was looking forward to killing the orlaisians as one of king alaistars solders :-(

[Morlanwen]

It sounds like you never learned french history .. but I don't blame you .. I never learned , let's say, spanish history. But if DA universe is based on middle age europe, france (or orlais, call it like you want) was not a place with "a bunch of idiots dancing around with fancy clothes". It's just a stereotype ... like "hoo, americans only eat burgers and shoot everyone in the streets. I know it, i've seen this on TV". You don't like french-orlais culture? your choice, but you can't say that France in middle age was a funny place. There was wars, starvations, deseases, black death ...etc... like everywhere else in europe.
Like I said before, french accents made by non french-speaking VA made my ears bleed.