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[naughty99]

Seboist wrote...

Tommyspa wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

Oh look, a white knight has rode in to defend ME3's honor. How amusing.

This is irony right? Or downright childish.

Anyway. So when did it become news that a MP based FPS out sold a story driven RPG?

BL2 is a superior story driven RPG than ME3.

Haven't played BL2 yet, so I can't fully compare the two. However, judging by the trailers and gameplay videos I've seen, it seems to be more about teaming up with your friends and collecting increasingly powerful loot.

Do you really feel like you are role playing a character and doing interesting quests, etc.? Do people RP in co-op mode?

Modifié par naughty99, 25 septembre 2012 - 11:19 .

[Chromie]

naughty99 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Tommyspa wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

Oh look, a white knight has rode in to defend ME3's honor. How amusing.

This is irony right? Or downright childish.

Anyway. So when did it become news that a MP based FPS out sold a story driven RPG?

BL2 is a superior story driven RPG than ME3.

Haven't played BL2 yet, so I can't fully compare the two. However, judging by the trailers and gameplay videos I've seen, it seems to be more about teaming up with your friends and collecting increasingly powerful loot. Do people RP in co-op mode?

Do you really feel like you are role playing a character and doing interesting quests, etc.?

Well he said story driven and I'd have to agree it's not like BL2 pisses off it's fan base or destroys beloved characters like the Illusive Man. The story in BL2 is by no means amazing or even great it is what it is. 

Modifié par Skelter192, 25 septembre 2012 - 11:22 .

[billy the squid]

Borderlands 2 is awesome sauce. I like it more than ME3 easily, is it universally considered better? Don't know don't care. Big impovement on BL1, which was a great game in itself. And BL2 is a MP game? So doing the same SP campaign with a friend in Co-op is now considered a MP game like Battlefield 3, CoD etc.? Hahaha wow. moving the goal posts aren't some people.

And Borderlands had a massive initial player base, you know being the first game in a completely new IP. lol.

Modifié par billy the squid, 25 septembre 2012 - 11:34 .

[frustratemyself]

rolson00 wrote...

...But who would have thought Borderlands 2 would beat ME3! ...

Anyone that's played the first Borderlands

[C9316]

Perhaps now Bioware will step it up with their future products, I doubt it though.

[Seboist]

frustratemyself wrote...

rolson00 wrote...

...But who would have thought Borderlands 2 would beat ME3! ...

Anyone that's played the first Borderlands

BL1 was "ME1 done right" in terms of game mechanics.

[Seboist]

C9316 wrote...

Perhaps now Bioware will step it up with their future products, I doubt it though.

Nah, they'll still sell their games on name recognition and their juvenile wish fulfillment ("Romances").

ME3 told us all we needed to know about EAware having no serious intent on making meaningful choices(ones that impact the gameplay), branching narrative or non-shallow RPG mechanics.

[Seboist]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

With that said, I'm definately going to give Borderlands 2 a try. Seems like a pretty interesting game.

Good man.

[C9316]

Seboist wrote...

C9316 wrote...

Perhaps now Bioware will step it up with their future products, I doubt it though.

Nah, they'll still sell their games on name recognition and their juvenile wish fulfillment ("Romances").

ME3 told us all we needed to know about EAware having no serious intent on making meaningful choices(ones that impact the gameplay), branching narrative or non-shallow RPG mechanics.

But of course they'll try to say otherwise.

Prime example here.

[billy the squid]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

Only when the "basic gaming market" applies to ME3, apparently.

So, you don't realize the average multi-player game will outsell the average single-player game?

I realize that you're completely full of s*** and have about as much knowledge of the "basic gaming market" as anyone else here, and seriously doubt you'd have barged in here and asserted your "knowledge" had the news been about any game other than ME3.

It appears that you're angry that I'm not criticizing ME3 or praising BL2 which seems to be the point of this thread. All I'm saying is that, in general, MP games sell more than SP games so it shouldn't be surprising that it happened in this case.

No need to get all mad about it.

So what's that thing on ME3 menu called? MP? pffft. ME3 is as much a MP game as Borderlands 2. You want a MP game, go look at CoD. Ghost Recon or BF.

[billy the squid]

@ Hanar. You mean good then and actually part of the main storyline.

Modifié par billy the squid, 25 septembre 2012 - 11:58 .

[Fast Jimmy]

Seboist wrote...

C9316 wrote...

Perhaps now Bioware will step it up with their future products, I doubt it though.

Nah, they'll still sell their games on name recognition and their juvenile wish fulfillment ("Romances").

ME3 told us all we needed to know about EAware having no serious intent on making meaningful choices(ones that impact the gameplay), branching narrative or non-shallow RPG mechanics.

As terrible as this sounds, I find it extremely interesting that the VERY active romance threads in the DA3 forums are pre-dominantly full of users with female avatars...

[Eternal Phoenix]

Seboist wrote...

Good to see the superior RPG with better choice and consequence and an antagonist far superior to the pathetic TIM/Cerberus and Reapers sell more.

Forgive me if I'm wrong but isn't Boderlands 2 like Borderlands 1 in terms of story elements? This means there's zero dialogue choices, zero role playing, zero choices and zero consequences. As for the topic; so what? Blacks Ops 2 will sell more and win some GOTY awards along with RPG of the year award. Halo 4 will sell the most on the 360 and win some GOTY awards.

[streamlock]

1. Look for EA to announce a shoot and loot, probably based on an existing IP down the road. Possibly using the Frostbite engine.

2. I play a game like ME for the sole purpose of loosing myself in the story, universe. It's more like a good book. I'm not looking for a social experience. As decent as ME3's MP was, it still felt tacked on, and did not hold my interest for more then a month.

3. Something like boarderlands is what I actually go out and look for friends to play with. The story is somewhat shallow, but entertaining. Never takes itself to seriously. We are not having deep philosophical discussions while playing it.

4. Why are we comparing the sales of these two properties?

[Seboist]

Elton John is dead wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Good to see the superior RPG with better choice and consequence and an antagonist far superior to the pathetic TIM/Cerberus and Reapers sell more.

Forgive me if I'm wrong but isn't Boderlands 2 like Borderlands 1 in terms of story elements? This means there's zero dialogue choices, zero role playing, zero choices and zero consequences. As for the topic; so what? Blacks Ops 2 will sell more and win some GOTY awards along with RPG of the year award. Halo 4 will sell the most on the 360 and win some GOTY awards.

There's no meaningless dialogue options,no and you can LARP(what you call "role playing") in BL2 as much as in any other game. As far as choice and consequence goes during various side quests you have the option of turning in [insert item here] to character A or B for differing rewards and then there's one side quest chain where you can choose to side with in a gang war. Heck, there's even one mission where you have the option of committing suicide and even get reward for it!

Much better than the throwaway dialogue and cutscene fluff in recent EAware games that provide the same experience as watching it on youtube.

[Rockworm503]

Borderlands has one of the best, if not the best villain ever.. Seriously Handsome Jack might push Joker off the first spot for me.