Aller au contenu

Photo

NEW COMIC - Dragon Age: Until We Sleep


485 réponses à ce sujet

#276
R2s Muse

R2s Muse
  • Members
  • 19 861 messages

Cirram55 wrote...

Mmmh, why is everyone calling the witch a *she*?
In the comic, while Aristen is telling the legend it shows a robed masculine figure, with muscles, abs, chest up in the open and no horns, as a witch of the wilds should have. I admit it'd have more sense if it were Flemeth or one of her daughters, but *he* really looked like a *him* to me.

Or am I missing something?

You know, this occurred to me, too. Looking closely hard to say. The shoulders seem  broad, but the bodice and narrow waist looked like DA2!Flemeth's to me. They just say "witch" don't they?  No pronoun.

Modifié par R2s Muse, 27 mars 2013 - 07:19 .


#277
Face of Evil

Face of Evil
  • Members
  • 2 511 messages

R2s Muse wrote...

Hmm, maybe I'm remembering something wrongly, but I thought he was conceived the, erm, traditional way. Granted they were on the run from the Darkspawn in the Deep Roads, and it was a quickie...


The Deep Roads are sort of like Make-out Point, but with more monsters.

Or possibly just as many, depending on what kind of movie you're in.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 27 mars 2013 - 07:38 .


#278
R2s Muse

R2s Muse
  • Members
  • 19 861 messages

Face of Evil wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Hmm, maybe I'm remembering something wrongly, but I thought he was conceived the, erm, traditional way. Granted they were on the run from the Darkspawn in the Deep Roads, and it was a quickie...


The Deep Roads are sort of like Make-out Point, but with more monsters.

Or possibly just as many, depending on what kind of movie you're in.

LOL Nothin' says lovin' like Darkspawn taint infecting the walls around you!

#279
LolaLei

LolaLei
  • Members
  • 33 006 messages

R2s Muse wrote...

Face of Evil wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Hmm, maybe I'm remembering something wrongly, but I thought he was conceived the, erm, traditional way. Granted they were on the run from the Darkspawn in the Deep Roads, and it was a quickie...


The Deep Roads are sort of like Make-out Point, but with more monsters.

Or possibly just as many, depending on what kind of movie you're in.

LOL Nothin' says lovin' like Darkspawn taint infecting the walls around you!


And people say romance is dead! :lol:

#280
Cirram55

Cirram55
  • Members
  • 311 messages

R2s Muse wrote...
You know, this occurred to me, too. Looking closely hard to say. The shoulders seem  broad, but the bodice and narrow waist looked like DA2!Flemeth's to me. They just say "witch" don't they?  No pronoun.


Exactly. I don't know in Thedas, but IRL witches are considered to be female and male as well.

As for reavers, couldn't anyone with a twitter account ask Gaider whether there's any difference between Maric, the Warden, or even a warrior Hawke with a reaver specialization (and s/he didn't even need to drink dragon blood)?

#281
Willowhugger

Willowhugger
  • Members
  • 3 489 messages
I confess, I applaud David Gaider for inserting a positive trans character. That's like the last taboo left to writers.

Kudos.

#282
Reznore57

Reznore57
  • Members
  • 6 144 messages
The witch looks female , a tall female with large shoulder , but she had a fluffy pauldron.
If you look closely the witch has breast , a small waist/large hips and she's wearing a dress.
So not a male witch.

#283
MisterJB

MisterJB
  • Members
  • 15 587 messages
Unless I'm much mistaken, a witch specifically means a female practicioner of magic.
The male equivalent would be warlock.

Modifié par MisterJB, 27 mars 2013 - 08:25 .


#284
Cirram55

Cirram55
  • Members
  • 311 messages
^
Warlocks, sorceresses, witches, wizards and mages (and yadda yadda yadda) are all different things. Some of them are exclusively one gender (wizard and warlock male, sorceress only female), others may be both (mages and witches).

The figure could be female, of course, but still: no horns even under the cape. Maybe not every witch of the wilds has them? I hope so (yay for Morrigan possibly not subject to drastic "Power rangers" overhauls!)

And Maevaris? Loved her, so tastefully handled.

Modifié par Cirram55, 27 mars 2013 - 08:27 .


#285
Firky

Firky
  • Members
  • 2 140 messages
OK. I just reread it. I understand the beginning now. Varric tricks me every time.

I like the theme of "being exposed" that seems to run all the way through, and touches lots of characters.

That bit where Varric says, "Wait for me," strikes me as incredibly ominous.

#286
David Gaider

David Gaider
  • BioWare Employees
  • 4 514 messages

Willowhugger wrote...

I confess, I applaud David Gaider for inserting a positive trans character. That's like the last taboo left to writers.

Kudos.


Thanks! I'm very pleased with how Maevaris turned out, and with how eager the rest of the team was in getting her in there. I didn't want to "announce" what she was-- but simply have a character who was present for reasons beyond her transgender identity.

Modifié par David Gaider, 27 mars 2013 - 09:21 .


#287
Willowhugger

Willowhugger
  • Members
  • 3 489 messages

Thanks! I'm very pleased with how Maevaris turned out, and with how eager the rest of the team was in getting her in there. I didn't want to "announce" what she was-- but simply have a character who was present for reasons beyond her transgender identity.


I've already seen posts on it on other boards. Being fans they are, they're already discussing whether a Magistar should have used Blood Magic to change their body.

But yes, it took me awhile to realize what you'd done.

Thanks again for doing a positive thing like this. I know several transgender folk over the net who will be pleased.

#288
Sister Goldring

Sister Goldring
  • Members
  • 1 551 messages
I just finished reading episode one of Until We Sleep (and I'm preemptively sorry because I can feel a big nerdy gush coming on)...........it was the BEST opening comic EVER!!!!!!!

I mean how great was that. We had King Maric strung up in what can only be described as an 'awkward' situation, creepy villainous blood mages (with glowing eyes and hoods....you can't get much more evil than that in my opinion.), Isabela with a conscience, a damsel in distress (foreshadowing much backstory I hope), Varric narrating cynically in the beginning and Alistair just being his sexy self.

I'm having a great morning! I'm only pissed that it ended and I have to wait for another month to find out what happens on the next page. David Gaider (and I say this with love) you are a torturous bstard!!!!!

#289
Who is that Masked Man

Who is that Masked Man
  • Members
  • 197 messages
So far I'm liking the new comic. Hey, they finally found Maric!

Also, now I have to play DAO over again and respec Alistair as a Reaver.

#290
Nerevar-as

Nerevar-as
  • Members
  • 5 375 messages
I have to wait until september...

And Reaver is hereditary? I´m going to use Alistair as one in my next playthroughs.

Modifié par Nerevar-as, 27 mars 2013 - 10:46 .


#291
TMJfin

TMJfin
  • Members
  • 718 messages
Wow, that was great first issue, just loved it. I have only one problem and it's just because of me. While reading I hear the voices of characters I know in my head, but with Ste... I mean Arishok it always starts with voice of Armas before turning to DA:O Stens voice and this happens every single time Arishok says something xD Really wondering why.

#292
Willowhugger

Willowhugger
  • Members
  • 3 489 messages
To be fair, I imagine that Reavers are MEANT to be terrifying to most people. Likewise, I expect they're rare as ****. Unfortunately, however, it's only a minor bonus to the Warden's Band of Awesome.

A good note, btw, I love how Varric mentions he's "friends with a few blood mages."

It was a nice nod to my Hawke. It's a pity David Gaider can't make a more direct reference to the leads. Obviously, for example, Alistair would refer to the Hero by their name in his thoughts. I hope Arishok will mention them, though.

"I miss the Warden" or something.

#293
TEWR

TEWR
  • Members
  • 16 988 messages

it's funny because what he did is very close to "forbidden magic."


Not close. It actually is blood magic, same as the Warden Joining is blood magic. Mages and Chantry scholars alike cite it as such.

That's what me and some others have been complaining about. It's hard to accept dragon blood as being so special, the secret to the rebirth of the Imperium when we've fought Mercenary Reavers in DA2 and crazy inbred Reavers in DAO.
Honestly, with all the dragons the Warden killed you could probrably make an army of dragon-powered mages.


I was honestly expecting Calenhad's blood to be the blood of Andorhal as an OGB, considering Calenhad was born in the exact same year Andorhal was slain. Which would've made Aurelian Titus' motives make a helluva lot more sense because it would fit with Tevinter culture and history. 

What makes more sense? Some generic Reaver status that Calenhad possessed being the key to the Imperium's rebirth or Andorhal OGB Calenhad being the key to the Imperium's rebirth?

Plus, it'd go along with Flemeth wanting to preserve the Old Gods, and the... line from the previous issues about the first kings and the Old Gods and dragons.

The only way this whole Reaver blood thing works is if the Dragon Calenhad made a blood martini from was Andorhal himself.

Course, that raises the question of how he could drink the blood of a tainted Old God.

Seems kinda weak to just say "Reavers are special!" like this when -- while they're powerful and dangerous -- they didn't really seem to be... amazingly awesome. I dunno. I preferred my speculation more then this explanation we were given.

Par for the course, I expect.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 28 mars 2013 - 03:16 .


#294
Face of Evil

Face of Evil
  • Members
  • 2 511 messages
I have not read the comic so I feel I can't pass judgement, but from what I've gleaned, was the dragon whose blood Calenhad drank not a really old high dragon? 

The Codex on dragon cults states that the mother dragon at the head of the cult sacrifices a few of her young to supply the blood for her cultists. It can be inferred that all the Reavers in the Cult of Andraste were empowered the same way, as were any Reavers in DA2.

(Supposing that they were actual "true" Reavers. You can pick up the specialization from a book, so I imagine there's some faux-Reavers out there who learned how to mimic the real deal's power.)

Point is, I suspect actually killing a high dragon to get its power holds a bit more weight than chugging some dragonling blood. Especially if it was a dragon on the verge of dying of old age; that itself is kind of out of the norm.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 28 mars 2013 - 03:43 .


#295
TEWR

TEWR
  • Members
  • 16 988 messages

Point is, I suspect actually killing a high dragon to get its power holds a bit more weight than chugging some dragonling blood. Especially if it was a dragon on the verge of dying of old age; that itself is kind of out of the norm.


Perhaps, but there's never really been anything to suggest that the different stages of Dragon growth have an effect on the overall power of a Reaver.

And IIRC, Kolgrim talks about how the blood gained was from "Andraste" herself. I also remember him using the term wyvern, but admittedly I haven't done the whole Reaver schtick in a long time. There was really little point for me to side with the insane man who knows jack **** about magic.

#296
TEWR

TEWR
  • Members
  • 16 988 messages

In the comic, while Aristen is telling the legend it shows a robed masculine figure, with muscles, abs, chest up in the open and no horns, as a witch of the wilds should have.


Perhaps it's Aldenon the Wise?

#297
Willowhugger

Willowhugger
  • Members
  • 3 489 messages
Counterpoint: This is Dragon Age not a hypothetical "realistic" fantasy universe.

King Callenhad gets the Reaver specialization *AND* he's a high level King.

It doesn't have to be that ALL of his power is Blood Magic related, just that it gave him an Edge.

I think it's SYMBOLIC more than anything else - that the people in DA are rarely Lily-White and Heroic.

#298
Face of Evil

Face of Evil
  • Members
  • 2 511 messages

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

And IIRC, Kolgrim talks about how the blood gained was from "Andraste" herself. I also remember him using the term wyvern, but admittedly I haven't done the whole Reaver schtick in a long time. There was really little point for me to side with the insane man who knows jack **** about magic.


His exact words are: "Behold the blood of a dragon! Drawn from the beating heart of a wyvern! Drink in the strength of a thousand generations!"

His wording is somewhat vague, though I'd note that the part about drawing blood from the heart of a wyvern suggests the donor is killed.

#299
Willowhugger

Willowhugger
  • Members
  • 3 489 messages
A Reaver is probably going to be far tougher than your average Fereldan is all I'm saying.

Look at Sten, who is just a regular footsoldier.

#300
TheJediSaint

TheJediSaint
  • Members
  • 6 637 messages
If there was ever a time where I thought Varric was a character from a First Person Shooter, it was the moment at the end of the first issue where he decided to shoot the giant evil glowing magical thingy of blood and doom.