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[Sylvianus]

Maric / Loghain / Rowan / Katriel in the stolen throne were awesome. The same, I loved the calling / stolen throne arc for Maric, but also for Loghain.

However, I totally disagree. The Loghain in the Stolen Throne was pretty much the same in DAO. Besides, in the Calling, It's obvious how he already became more suspicious, sceptic, ( especially toward the wardens ) more confident, closer to the man we know in the game. The fact that there are many people who believe Loghain was right or follow him, shows that he was well written in the game.

The first time I played DAO, I was almost convinced by Loghain at the landmeet. The only thing that kept me from leaving him alive was Alistair who was crying like a girl. I didn't want to betray him. Otherwise...

Modifié par Sylvianus, 05 avril 2013 - 05:20 .

[Agelico]

There is a preview of Dragon Age: Until We Sleep #2.

...the nightmare was unexpected. I didn't recognise her at first.

[Reznore57]

...thanks for the link , Agelico.
I don't really like this preview...the fade seems again like ...a big miss.
It's supposed to be a dream realm ...and it's a problem I also had in DG's book , it doesn't feel like a dream it feels like character are just getting to different movie set.(and different costumes...)
Can't really explain it ...maybe the experience isn't enough random?
There's a Buffy episode which is about a dream and it's pretty cool , tons of random crap (like a cheese guy) and symbolic stuff.

I don't know , maybe I'll change my mind with the full issue .

[Cirram55]

^ I totally agree, in that preview the fade is unimpressive at best, again.
And yet in a comic book they don't have engine limitations or high costs of production. Would it have been so difficult to have something closer to these concepts?

[R2s Muse]

Reznore57 wrote...

...thanks for the link , Agelico.
I don't really like this preview...the fade seems again like ...a big miss.
It's supposed to be a dream realm ...and it's a problem I also had in DG's book , it doesn't feel like a dream it feels like character are just getting to different movie set.(and different costumes...)
Can't really explain it ...maybe the experience isn't enough random?
There's a Buffy episode which is about a dream and it's pretty cool , tons of random crap (like a cheese guy) and symbolic stuff.

I don't know , maybe I'll change my mind with the full issue .

Love that Buffy episode... and the unexplained cheese guy! Yeah, those did have more of a dreamlike feeling to them. I don't know what I'm really expecting from the Fade, but I must admit I'm a little tired of the "you're caught in your dream, let me save you with reality" type of story. I do wonder at the comment in the preview about "this is my realm" or whatever, suggesting that's not our villain but a Fade/demon version?

[MisterJB]

Titus really fits the Magister role to a fault, doesn't he?

"Muahaha Magic Power Godhood Muahaha"

I can't wait for him to get a sword through the face.

Modifié par MisterJB, 20 avril 2013 - 01:34 .

[lil yonce]

Cirram55 wrote...

^ I totally agree, in that preview the fade is unimpressive at best, again.
And yet in a comic book they don't have engine limitations or high costs of production. Would it have been so difficult to have something closer to these concepts?

I thought it was fine.

Asunder Spoilers:

In Pharamond's Tranquil nightmare in theFade everything was almost exactly as it was in real life except the streets of Val Royueax were off because he didn't get out much and the White Spire was huge-- way bigger than it should have been because it dominated his mental landscape. Everything about the tower was right-- the rooms, details, etc except everyone there was now a Tranquil.

End Spoilers.

I don't think there's supposed to be a random fakeness to it and I don't think its meant to look like a dreamworld or a wasteland while you're in someone's nightmare.

[lil yonce]

And Qunari Isabela. I like it. That was some threat she made to Varric and Mae-- geez. Okay, maybe she doesn't need the Qun but I like the discipline and the two handed weapon skillz she picked up, and that warrior outfit must be the hot rage in the streets of Par Vollen. Maybe the new Isabela will change up her look back in the real world-- keeping the Qunari look minus the markings.

Modifié par Youth4Ever, 20 avril 2013 - 04:40 .

[Brockololly]

MisterJB wrote...

Titus really fits the Magister role to a fault, doesn't he?

"Muahaha Magic Power Godhood Muahaha"

I just really hope that doesn't translate into DA3 with the Tevinter or whatever is going on with the Old Gods and Flemeth and Morrigan and so forth.

Just the whole "WE SHALL BECOME THE OLD GODS!! MUAAAHHAHAHAHA!" stuff was just...ugh.

[nightscrawl]

Agelico wrote...

There is a preview of Dragon Age: Until We Sleep #2.

...the nightmare was unexpected. I didn't recognise her at first.

Oh wow... she looks fantastic. I like her much better without that stupid bandana.

[lil yonce]

She does look good. I hope she keeps the look.

[ejoslin]

What is up with the outfits they put so many of the women into? I realize a lot of it is pandering, but bleh, can't they at least have outfits that would have a chance of actually staying on IRL?  Sorry, but that woman fighting with the gauze bandage over her boobs bugs me more than the one of the isolated woman in the woods lounging about in a thong and corset.

I realize I'm not the target audience for these, but still, ugh.

Modifié par ejoslin, 20 avril 2013 - 06:39 .

[MisterJB]

With all due respect; women have an history of being forced into ridiculous costumes in the past; male qunari walked shirtless into battle and I saw no one complaining how unrealistic or objectifying it was.
If anything, Isabela's "bandage" should not be there as far as the Qun is concerned who likely has little to nothing written on the matter of modesty. Thus, I don't really think they are trying to make Isabela look sexy; as opposed to her outfit in DA2; so much as they are trying to remain consistent with DA2 qunari while still mantaining a PG rating.

[ejoslin]

I would have less problem with her being topless, tbh. I had a bathing suit like that once, and honestly, making sure my boobs stayed covered when changing position sunbathing was an issue -- had I been swinging a sword, no way they would have stayed covered.

That boob wrapping -- and I'm talking about the narrow strip of cloth covering the one woman's boobs on a diagonal -- has no practical purpose and has no way of actually working. Make a bikini top if you must show that much boob -- something that has a chance of having some sort of practical purpose (keeping boobs out of the way or at least somewhat in place while swinging that sword).

Edit: And I do agree that women have been forced into ridiculous costumes in the past -- that doesn't mean that it should be continued.  I don't mind sexy, but bleh, at least try for something that has a small chance of doing something practical.

Anyway, like I said, I know I'm not the target audience for this, I realize, but it is completely offputting to me.

Modifié par ejoslin, 20 avril 2013 - 07:06 .

[Olwydd]

ejoslin wrote...

What is up with the outfits they put so many of the women into? I realize a lot of it is pandering, but bleh, can't they at least have outfits that would have a chance of actually staying on IRL?  Sorry, but that woman fighting with the gauze bandage over her boobs bugs me more than the one of the isolated woman in the woods lounging about in a thong and corset.

I realize I'm not the target audience for these, but still, ugh.

To be fair, none of the Qunari seem especially fond of shirts.

Modifié par Olwydd, 20 avril 2013 - 07:06 .

[ejoslin]

Olwydd wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

What is up with the outfits they put so many of the women into? I realize a lot of it is pandering, but bleh, can't they at least have outfits that would have a chance of actually staying on IRL?  Sorry, but that woman fighting with the gauze bandage over her boobs bugs me more than the one of the isolated woman in the woods lounging about in a thong and corset.

I realize I'm not the target audience for these, but still, ugh.

To be fair, none of the Qunari seem especially fond of shirts.

And that's fine.  My point is that a wrapping like that would not work at all.  Shirtless would be fine.  A wrapping would that actually hold her boobs in would be even better.  

Ah well, probably more people like the look than are bothered by the impossibility of it.

Modifié par ejoslin, 20 avril 2013 - 07:12 .

[MisterJB]

My intention was not to suggest that sacrificing practicality for sexyness was something that should continue but rather to acknowledge that women in videogames have an history of being squeezed into ridiculous costumes and I would not attempt to pretend otherwise.

I admit that as a member of the male gender, my knowledge regarding breasts getting in the way of tasks is dreadfully short and Isabela is a more endowed woman than most. So, maybe it is meant to serve some practical purpose.
Otherwise, I do not believe that the wrapping is meant to cover anything in-world since the culture o the Qun probrably doesn't place much value in modesty. The wrapping is merely there because of our own cultural taboo regarding nudity.

Modifié par MisterJB, 20 avril 2013 - 07:15 .

[whykikyouwhy]

I'm think that the Qunari look Isabela is sporting in the Fade might be based on Spader 7's design of her.

It seems that the preview scene is a Fade-driven worst fear sort of thing, akin to the Sloth Demon encounter in DA:O. Where the preview ends leaves much to interpretation though - will she be able to conquer the fear scenario, is some personal sacrifice about to take place, etc. It will be interesting to see how it ends, but in general, I'm not too fond of the particular direction the comics are taking Isabela in. 

[thats1evildude]

Oh, I get it. Varric is recounting what happened and he's lying about what went down with Isabela.

[nightscrawl]

ejoslin wrote...

What is up with the outfits they put so many of the women into? I realize a lot of it is pandering, but bleh, can't they at least have outfits that would have a chance of actually staying on IRL?  Sorry, but that woman fighting with the gauze bandage over her boobs bugs me more than the one of the isolated woman in the woods lounging about in a thong and corset.

I realize I'm not the target audience for these, but still, ugh.

It's a variation on the concept art for the female Qunari, so it's not surprising they went with that look.

ejoslin wrote...

I would have less problem with her being topless, tbh. I had a bathing suit like that once, and honestly, making sure my boobs stayed covered when changing position sunbathing was an issue -- had I been swinging a sword, no way they would have stayed covered.

I think this is a good point. Some Celtic warriors went into battle naked. This was for intimidation, but also to avoid clothing getting pushed into wounds. Though to be fair, I doubt it's made of of spandex like a bikini top is and wrapped very tightly, far more than a bathing suit.

Modifié par nightscrawl, 21 avril 2013 - 02:39 .

[WhiteKnyght]

What I'm guessing based on information given.

Flemeth is behind everything(as if that wasn't obvious enough already/)

She made the deal with Calenhad, and gave him the blood of an old god to acquire his powers(normal Reavers aren't that tough. Let alone powerful enough to unite a country.)

Titus got wind of it and that's why he wants Alistair and Maric's blood so badly(it further's his ambition of becoming one of the old gods)

Flemeth wanted Yavana to use Maric's blood to resurrect the remaining old gods without tainting them. Which also might explain why she wanted to preserve the soul of Urthemiel.(Meaning it is likely better to not do the Dark Ritual, just to stick it to her)

And for whatever reason, Morrigan got wind of it and wants to prevent it from happening(perhaps Flemeth, given the hatred of humans she shows, is planning on the genocide of the human race and the return of the dragons as the dominant species like in the story Yavana told)



It seems the taint is considered an enemy by Flemeth. So perhaps it is not tied to the old gods after all. In Yavana's story to Alistair, Dragons ruled the world in an age before the veil separating the Fade and the phsycial world existed.

So perhaps the Golden City was actually a Dragonic settlement, and something happened that caused the pollution we know as the Taint to claim it and convert it to the Black City. And perhaps the veil and the fade were created to keep it contained. And when the Magisters stepped into it, they unwittingly became vessels to carry the taint through the veil and into the mortal world.

If this speculation is true, one must wonder where the taint originates. Perhaps there is another being we haven't seen yet who is behind the taint and that is what the player will have to contend with in the final game of the series.

Modifié par The Grey Nayr, 21 avril 2013 - 03:14 .

[Renmiri1]

Fingers woven into sheets ? WTH ?

[Fredward]

Renmiri1 wrote...

Fingers woven into sheets ? WTH ?

For that always caressed feel.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

nightscrawl wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

What is up with the outfits they put so many of the women into? I realize a lot of it is pandering, but bleh, can't they at least have outfits that would have a chance of actually staying on IRL?  Sorry, but that woman fighting with the gauze bandage over her boobs bugs me more than the one of the isolated woman in the woods lounging about in a thong and corset.

I realize I'm not the target audience for these, but still, ugh.

It's a variation on the concept art for the female Qunari, so it's not surprising they went with that look.

Yeah, uh...all of the racial concept art had men topless and women in what was essentially their underwear.



You didn't see Merrill wearing that getup except during smexy time.

I suppose we should be grateful that female qunari get pants and shoes.

Modifié par Shadow of Light Dragon, 21 avril 2013 - 09:04 .

[thats1evildude]

Rasaan wore the same top.

I wouldn't worry too much about practicalities of clothing when it comes to adventures in the Fade, though. Isabela's not actually wearing that outfit, as it's not real. For that matter, that's not Isabela's actual physical body either.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 21 avril 2013 - 09:24 .