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ladyofpayne wrote...

Why Maevaris on the one picture woman but she becomes man on another?


Like Serendipity, she's a man. She/he just dresses up as a woman. I think it was first revealed in the first 'Until We Sleep' when I just thought that she had small mammaries. But nope, her wiki says that she's transexual and David confirmed that.

It quite possibly be Maric's dream. But then I thought that if he'd dream of on of his sons, he'd dream of both and Cailan isn't anywhere to be seen. Besides, he doesn't know that Alistair's after him. From what I've read/seen, he wouldn't care enough over Alistair for him to be at the forefront of his mind.

It's much more likely that it's Alistair simply wishing for his family, and acting as a snobbish prince to fit his new role. Otherwise, it could be a shared dream (which is actually even more likely than both). Less effort for the spirits to construct. Alistair gets his family and Maric gets his kingship back.

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O, Maker magisters are all crazy! In DA 3 I will slay every mage crossing to my path!

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ladyofpayne wrote...

O, Maker magisters are all crazy! In DA 3 I will slay every mage crossing to my path!


Um... lets not assume all mages are evil okay? Because that may not be the case at all.

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Read #2, great as usual. Those first few pages were pretty sad, but also an interesting insight into Varric.

Looking forward to the final issue! :D

Has it been mentioned at all if all three books are going to be collected into an anthology? Since these are all parts of a single story, that would be nice to have; I also know that Darkhorse has done several anthologies, so it might be something they would do.

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MisterJB wrote...

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What the hell is that brown thing Maric is riding?

Truly, the Fade is home to many strange and unnatural beasts. :P


This is going to be kinda out there, but could it be a wingless griffon? It's certainly no bronto, and the Grey Wardens of old used to ride griffons into battle. I can't think of any other mounts...:whistle:

C'mon, it's Ferelden. It's obviously some sort of overgrown mabari. They are probrably bred by royalty to be ridden into battle.


So what do we know about these mutant Mabari/demigriffons (thats what a wingless griffon  is called), could they show up in DA3?

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nightscrawl wrote...

Read #2, great as usual. Those first few pages were pretty sad, but also an interesting insight into Varric.

Looking forward to the final issue! :D

Has it been mentioned at all if all three books are going to be collected into an anthology? Since these are all parts of a single story, that would be nice to have; I also know that Darkhorse has done several anthologies, so it might be something they would do.

Yes, it's apparently due out in September.
http://www.darkhorse...til-We-Sleep-HC

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MisterJB wrote...

I'm almost 100% sure it's Alistair's. It reflects his wish to have a family as well as his wish to have the
burden of being king lifted from his shoulders. Meanwhile, Maric is acting the like the projections we've met in DAO. Subtly attempting to expell any intruders who might awake the Dreamer. "You're not welcome."

Plus, if it was Maric's dream, there would be some elven ladies around and I haven't seen any.

LOL Good points. I was also wondering why this Fade dream wouldn't be more similar to Maric's dream in the Calling, i.e. imagining he lived happily ever after with Katriel or something similar. Somehow I doubt his biggest life concern would be the child he's never even met. On the other hand, do the Fade demons get to pick and choose your memories? Perhaps an Alistair dream seemed most apropos given the circumstances... Hmm. Or, say, someone else is pulling the strings, like Titus... which brings me to:

Harlequin2 wrote...

It quite possibly be Maric's dream. But then I thought that if he'd dream of on of his sons, he'd dream of both and Cailan isn't anywhere to be seen. Besides, he doesn't know that Alistair's after him. From what I've read/seen, he wouldn't care enough over Alistair for him to be at the forefront of his mind.

It's much more likely that it's Alistair simply wishing for his family, and acting as a snobbish prince to fit his new role. Otherwise, it could be a shared dream (which is actually even more likely than both). Less effort for the spirits to construct. Alistair gets his family and Maric gets his kingship back.

I kinda like this idea of a shared dream... So, say the dreams are being shaped/controlled by Titus, it could make sense that he's cocooned both Alistair and Maric in the same dream of a sham family, preying on both of their regrets simultaneously. After all, at that part of the story, Titus is on to them and actively pursuing/messing with them. This would also explain Mae's comments about going the wrong direction and why hasn't Titus attacked us yet...  Plus, come to think of it, neither Alistair nor Maric have seen the other at this point, so neither would have the "correct" mental image from which to imagine the other.

Modifié par R2s Muse, 25 avril 2013 - 01:14 .


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R2s Muse wrote...

Yes, it's apparently due out in September.
http://www.darkhorse...til-We-Sleep-HC

That is not an anthology. An anthology would have all of the volumes in a single book, which is what I was asking for. Darkhorse releases these types of things under "omnibus," which is probably a more accurate term than "anthology."

Thanks for the help though.


MisterJB wrote...

I'm almost 100% sure it's Alistair's. It reflects his wish to have a family as well as his wish to have the burden of being king lifted from his shoulders. Meanwhile, Maric is acting the like the projections we've met in DAO. Subtly attempting to expell any intruders who might awake the Dreamer. "You're not welcome."

I think there is also an element of, "This is the life I should have had," kind of thing.

Modifié par nightscrawl, 25 avril 2013 - 02:08 .


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nightscrawl wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Yes, it's apparently due out in September.
http://www.darkhorse...til-We-Sleep-HC

That is not an anthology. An anthology would have all of the volumes in a single book, which is what I was asking for. Darkhorse releases these types of things under "omnibus," which is probably a more accurate term than "anthology."

Thanks for the help though.

Ah, I  misunderstood.

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Caelen wasn't a snobbish ****. Wonder why Alistair gets to be one...

BTW, I read somewhere that in the comics Alistair is single. Not sure if Warden died or left.

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Renmiri1 wrote...

Caelen wasn't a snobbish ****. Wonder why Alistair gets to be one...

BTW, I read somewhere that in the comics Alistair is single. Not sure if Warden died or left.

I thought Alistair's relationship status was being left deliberately vague. Do you mean that DG or someone said he was actually single?  That would be interesting!

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R2s Muse wrote...

Renmiri1 wrote...

Caelen wasn't a snobbish ****. Wonder why Alistair gets to be one...

BTW, I read somewhere that in the comics Alistair is single. Not sure if Warden died or left.

I thought Alistair's relationship status was being left deliberately vague. Do you mean that DG or someone said he was actually single?  That would be interesting!


Single?! not in my canon he's not! :P

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Episode 2 was okay. Seemed to tread water story-wise and I don't feel like it gave us much insight about the characters that we didn't have already (save re. Varric's lady friend). Hope the third installment is better.

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R2s Muse wrote...
LOL Good points. I was also wondering why this Fade dream wouldn't be more similar to Maric's dream in the Calling, i.e. imagining he lived happily ever after with Katriel or something similar. Somehow I doubt his biggest life concern would be the child he's never even met. On the other hand, do the Fade demons get to pick and choose your memories?


The Fade is stupid. Like with the Warden getting the end of the blight as a dream, despite not per se wanting that.

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I would argue that the Sloth demon in DAO wasn't trying to grant the Warden what he/she truly desired, though. It's a spirit of entropy, not desire; it was just trying to make the Warden give in to apathy and complacency.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 27 avril 2013 - 04:00 .


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R2s Muse wrote...

Renmiri1 wrote...

Caelen wasn't a snobbish ****. Wonder why Alistair gets to be one...

BTW, I read somewhere that in the comics Alistair is single. Not sure if Warden died or left.

I thought Alistair's relationship status was being left deliberately vague. Do you mean that DG or someone said he was actually single?  That would be interesting!


Wouldn't he always be "single" though? Doesn't the Warden vanish a couple of years after Awakening? In my headcanon Alistair has become even-harder(haha)-Alistair because he's been without his wifey for a while and has finally given up on finding her. After a suitably pathos filled search ofc. Or maybe he's trying to find Maric since he wants him to rule and he can spend all his time and energy on finding her, I haven't decided yet.

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I really enjoyed this one. I like the idea the story raised about how a person is defined - and how it's easy to let others define you vs the struggle to be self determining. (Or something like that. That's what I took from it.)

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Foopydoopydoo wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...

Renmiri1 wrote...

Caelen wasn't a snobbish ****. Wonder why Alistair gets to be one...

BTW, I read somewhere that in the comics Alistair is single. Not sure if Warden died or left.

I thought Alistair's relationship status was being left deliberately vague. Do you mean that DG or someone said he was actually single?  That would be interesting!


Wouldn't he always be "single" though? Doesn't the Warden vanish a couple of years after Awakening? In my headcanon Alistair has become even-harder(haha)-Alistair because he's been without his wifey for a while and has finally given up on finding her. After a suitably pathos filled search ofc. Or maybe he's trying to find Maric since he wants him to rule and he can spend all his time and energy on finding her, I haven't decided yet.

LOL Good point. With Witch Hunt in 9:32, and we're in 9:38... some Wardens have departed to  neverland. Pfft. No idea. I just figured that they'd leave it as open as possible, so you could interpret Isabela's flirting as: (a) just her being her, (B) familiarity because she did the 3-way with Alistair, © flirty because Alistair is looonely, since wife died/disappeared/never existed (d) ??

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In Exile wrote...

R2s Muse wrote...
LOL Good points. I was also wondering why this Fade dream wouldn't be more similar to Maric's dream in the Calling, i.e. imagining he lived happily ever after with Katriel or something similar. Somehow I doubt his biggest life concern would be the child he's never even met. On the other hand, do the Fade demons get to pick and choose your memories?


The Fade is stupid. Like with the Warden getting the end of the blight as a dream, despite not per se wanting that.


Heh, yeah, but that scene was probably pretty difficult to deal with considering the PLAYER was never going to be taken in regardless.  I'm hoping we get a Fade scene in DA3 where they successfully hide from you that you're in the Fade and you actually do have to figure it out.

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Finally read #2 today, loved it the most of all so far because of the background story of Bianca (even though it kind of conflicts with DA2 Legacy DLC about who her designer/maker was, well maybe not.. maybe Bianca designed it & the other dwarf actually made it for Varric, ugh went off topic!), BUT anyways I also hated it most so far because I truly hope the whole flirt line with Isabela was a complete fiction of MARIC's dream/nightmare.
(Statement coming from a girl who NEVER does a play-through of Origins without marrying Alistair mind you, so watch yourself Gaider! ;))

From David's comments in interviews on the comic storyline that I've seen (not sure if someone has already posted this, so feel free to ignore me from here on out if someone already has!), the reader is to assume the warden is alive & back in Denerim awaiting Alistair's return, having done the dark ritual of course; also that the role Alistair plays in the comics is to be compatible with either a friendship or romantic relation to the warden.

My opinion (sorry it's kind of long, but would love to hear opinions!), in the comics Alistair calls Varric & Isbela both "aquaintances" and even stretched out to say Zevran had a hand in them being his allies in this endeavor as well as other information gathered about the mission to help save Maric (IE: Titus & the connections leading to him). So I for one assume the "The Pearl 3 Way" never happened & they were strictly brought in by Zevran to help Alistair. (Zevran & Isabela go WAY back & of course Varric and Isabela live at the Hanged Man & see each other every day so why wouldn't they still be doing things together?) The conversations between both Alistair & Isabela to me sound like their typical personalities, Isabela coming off as doing this solely for her own self gain, sometimes acting humorously whorish, but really is a true ally & Alistair is just being Alistair in return, always having concern for others, putting them before himself, & always doing what he thinks is right.

UNTIL this nightmare however.. Having played origins over a dozen times, never leaving Alistair out of my party, I can safely say THAT was NOT Alistair. (He can't even jokingly pretend to be a high maintenance king and keep a straight face!) He's never been comfortable with the idea of being a king, certainly never wanted to be called "your highness"! In the previous comics when it focused on the information obtained by Maric's cellmate, he claimed Maric said he was obligated to leave the way he did & that he felt remorse for doing so. All of which he did because of a deal he made with The Witch. (He was expecting her to break him out of prison no?) So maybe this is his viewpoint of how Alistair SHOULD (in his eyes anyway) have been? Maker knows Cailan acted similar (high strung as king, even at a young age from Alistair's recollection upon meeting him) & considering Maric was with Cailan practically all of his life where as he was never really in Alistair's, I don't think a dream without Cailan in it is hard to believe at this point in the comics. I hate that the conclusion of this portion isn't cut & dry so we don't know if this is the case or not.
Damn cliff hangers.. :bandit:

Modifié par o0o_Kira_o0o, 04 mai 2013 - 01:23 .


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New promotional pages: http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/Previews/22-386?page=1

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Oh yeah, time for some non-mage ass kicking.

I'm glad they seem to be acknowleding what power; more specifically, magic; can do to people. Good to know not all DA writers have jumped on the Pro-mage train even if Titus is an one note villain. They could just replace his whole dialogue with:
"Power, Power, POWER"

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That's a pretty wicked grin Alistair's sporting there. :devil:

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Maric is so obviously dead it's not even funny.
Also, it seems this issue explains why Calenhad being a Reaver was sucha big deal. He drank the blood of one of the great dragons.

Modifié par MisterJB, 24 mai 2013 - 09:10 .


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Hmm after seeing Isabela's clothing...does this mean that Hawke never romanced her... or just the fact that drawing the armor she wears when romanced would take too much time?

Modifié par The_FenixV, 24 mai 2013 - 09:37 .