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[Charlie Bell]

Carnifex heavier than Talon? ROFLMAO qq

That's just unnecessary.

Modifié par Charlie Bell, 26 septembre 2012 - 02:41 .

[ZoM_Head]

I see 180% recharge with an Asaria Adept 6/6/6/5/3 build with M-6

I see 190% recharge, same class/race/build with the M-77

I see 200% recharge, same class/race/build with the M-358

Can post in game screenshots for proof.

[Tchu Tchu Tchu Paaaa]

Elotana wrote...

So the Carnifex is totally eclipsed by the Paladin now? Is this by design?

Is that what is supposed to be, isn't it? Ultra Rare better than Rare weapons?

[Dark Tlaloc]

Tchu Tchu Tchu Paaaa wrote...

Elotana wrote...

So the Carnifex is totally eclipsed by the Paladin now? Is this by design?

Is that what is supposed to be, isn't it? Ultra Rare better than Rare weapons?

Yeah, now that I've seen the balance changes, their idea about nerfing the Carnifex makes sense. Instead of buffing the UR heavy pistols' damage to insane levels, making them lighter than the Carnifex, but maintaining the damage advantage they already had makes sense. Makes me want a few more levels for my Talon and Paladin I though!

[theriverninja3297]

Fix your damn servers

[theriverninja3297]

Fix your damn servers

[Impulse and Compulse]

Carnifex never seemed like it needed a nerf to me, I actually kinda thought it was garbage, but the rest of the buffs seem neat.

[juanjo_dpr9]

They nerfed the piranha...**** Bioware, that is my favourite weapon, why don't you stick your fingers in your asses? And, why do we need the Carnifex? It has the same weight than the Paladin. And more striker clips? Great,now cheaters are very happy.

[madmaxmovies]

juanjo_dpr9 wrote...

They nerfed the piranha...**** Bioware, that is my favourite weapon, why don't you stick your fingers in your asses? And, why do we need the Carnifex? It has the same weight than the Paladin. And more striker clips? Great,now cheaters are very happy.

^ This.

I guess with less and less players each week, they want to wreck all the stuff that those of us still on there playing are using, so we won't want to play any more either. This, along with the constant missile glicthers back on PS3 again, and all the bugs and crashes that haven't been touched in 6 months (and I don't expect ever will), I'm pretty close to quitting at this point. Just feels like there's no fun left in it any more.

[Davik Kang]

When do the changes get implemented?

[Sinapus]

Okay, checked my asari adept with lvl 1 and 4 weight capacity bonus options in her class skills and suddenly she's at 190% instead of 200% when armed solely with a Carnifex X. Um... no sale. I suspect if I ever get the Paladin up to lvl X it that will work, but still. Really, Bioware?!



...and for more information, I've only used the Carnifex on two characters: My N7 Shadow and Asari Adept. A submachine gun/Phalanx combo works better with my other casters, though my justicar carries an M-15 Vindicator.

Why is it all these "minor" nerfs keep managing to screw people who aren't doing what the nerfers complain about?

Modifié par Sinapus, 27 septembre 2012 - 02:24 .

[juanjo_dpr9]

madmaxmovies wrote...

juanjo_dpr9 wrote...

They nerfed the piranha...**** Bioware, that is my favourite weapon, why don't you stick your fingers in your asses? And, why do we need the Carnifex? It has the same weight than the Paladin. And more striker clips? Great,now cheaters are very happy.

^ This.

I guess with less and less players each week, they want to wreck all the stuff that those of us still on there playing are using, so we won't want to play any more either. This, along with the constant missile glicthers back on PS3 again, and all the bugs and crashes that haven't been touched in 6 months (and I don't expect ever will), I'm pretty close to quitting at this point. Just feels like there's no fun left in it any more.

They fixed the vanguard glitch? NOOOOOOO. They fixed the rocket glitch?? NOOOOOOOOOOO. They fu##ed the Krysae and now is the same with the Piranha. I'm sick of you Bioware, I've spent more than 70 euros in your game and a lot of microsoft points, I have dozen of friends they are really angry with change in the piranha.No wonder why every week there are less players in your game...

[B.Shep]

Sinapus, the Paladin is supposed to be a improved version of the Carnifex. This balance change was understandable.

juanjo_dpr9, too bad. Now you are gonna have to actually try to aim before spam the trigger...

Modifié par B.Shep, 27 septembre 2012 - 02:25 .

[juanjo_dpr9]

B.Shep wrote...

Sinapus, the Paladin is supposed to be a improved version of the Carnifex. This balance change was understandable.

juanjo_dpr9, too bad. Now you are gonna have to actually try to aim before spam the trigger...

In that you're wrong, I will change to my Claymore, I can do the same points with Claymore-Geth Infiltrator than Piranha-Geth Infiltrator. What bothers me is Bioware changing the whole time weapons because there are a lot of whining players. They should hear only the first 100 players on every console (xbox, pc and ps3), that would be very possitive.

Modifié par juanjo_dpr9, 27 septembre 2012 - 03:06 .

[Sinapus]

B.Shep wrote...

Sinapus, the Paladin is supposed to be a improved version of the Carnifex. This balance change was understandable.

Paladin already does more damage when leveled up. Once (if) I get that leveled I'll use it.

The encumbrance of the Carnifex before the nerf already forced casters to spend points in their class skill towards weight capacity for cooldowns and carry it as their only weapon. To have a backup weapon (light smg, disciple shotgun, etc) they had to spend all points in their class skill and have none left to spend on fitness to get that melee bonus that lets heavy melee attacks kill common soldiers on bronze with one attack. I found that too limiting on my engineers so I maintained the locust/phalanx combo I'd been using and that still works well. Even use it on my N7 Paladin. The only classes I found the Carnifex useful on were the AA (stasis+headshot) and the Shadow (to make potshots at enemies or bosses) and that was it.

This is yet another "gosh this is popular so that's bad" reaction while using the excuse of "balance" to justify it.

As others have noted, if people aren't using certain weapons it might be because there's a problem with those weapons, not because a more popular weapon is "unbalanced". Haven't had a chance to play the Piranha with the 6-shot mag but I suspect that's going to have similar issues.

[juanjo_dpr9]

Sinapus wrote...

B.Shep wrote...

Sinapus, the Paladin is supposed to be a improved version of the Carnifex. This balance change was understandable.

Paladin already does more damage when leveled up. Once (if) I get that leveled I'll use it.

The encumbrance of the Carnifex before the nerf already forced casters to spend points in their class skill towards weight capacity for cooldowns and carry it as their only weapon. To have a backup weapon (light smg, disciple shotgun, etc) they had to spend all points in their class skill and have none left to spend on fitness to get that melee bonus that lets heavy melee attacks kill common soldiers on bronze with one attack. I found that too limiting on my engineers so I maintained the locust/phalanx combo I'd been using and that still works well. Even use it on my N7 Paladin. The only classes I found the Carnifex useful on were the AA (stasis+headshot) and the Shadow (to make potshots at enemies or bosses) and that was it.

This is yet another "gosh this is popular so that's bad" reaction while using the excuse of "balance" to justify it.

As others have noted, if people aren't using certain weapons it might be because there's a problem with those weapons, not because a more popular weapon is "unbalanced". Haven't had a chance to play the Piranha with the 6-shot mag but I suspect that's going to have similar issues.

Don't worry, I'm pretty sure there must be a stu... I mean a intelligent guy in Bioware nerfing the Claymore for the next week. I don't understand why they nerf a popular weapon, they must think ''a lot of players are playing in platinum with piranhas and they are beating waves too easily, let's ''help'' them'' ¬¬.

Modifié par juanjo_dpr9, 27 septembre 2012 - 03:51 .

[Wraithwain]

I like these balance changes.

[shamus mcfitzy]

B.Shep wrote...

Sinapus, the Paladin is supposed to be a improved version of the Carnifex. This balance change was understandable.

I guess I'm late to the balances changes party and unaware of something (I only checked the forum because I noticed the Carnifex weight nerf), but why does its weight need to be nerfed? Wouldn't a damage nerf be a much better way to make the Carnifex inferior to the Paladin? It certainly seems like a Predator-Phalanx-Carnifex-Paladin more-damage-more-encumbrance progression works without now making the Paladin lighter at lvl. 1. And unless only the Paladin I is lighter, when it would seem that now the Paladin II through at least V would also be lighter if the gun becomes steadily lighter as it levels, I would think that the Paladin is definitely going to need a nerf later when long-time players get enough Paladins to drop.

[ParkerArt]

Xaijin wrote...

What the ****....

The most powerful powers in the game got buffed?

Seriously, what?

Because they are limited in number and have to be picked up 1 grenade at a time in gold matches.

[ParkerArt]

juanjo_dpr9 wrote...

Claymore-Geth Infiltrator than Piranha-Geth Infiltrator. What bothers me is Bioware changing the whole time weapons because there are a lot of whining players. They should hear only the first 100 players on every console (xbox, pc and ps3), that would be very possitive.

Using a shotgun wielding Geth Infiltrator... yeah, I totally feel for you having the most overpowered weapon available nerfed on you.

[a ViciousFerret]

Wow, the Paladin is better than the Carnifex now?

Wow.


And my Batarian Soldier just got another buff! Inferno Grenades

[SigmaN7]

Sweet!
I just love the weight of my Paladin...

[The Renegade Fem-Shep]

Um, actually I can't even tell the difference with the Piranha on any of my characters...still the best shotty out there unless you're a Carbine fan...
Also I'd take the nerf to both those guns I use frequently for the awesome boast to grenade capacity!

[mackfactor]

BOOM!

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MORE BOOM!!!

[mackfactor]

Initiating whining protocol W41N3 . . . whining commenced . . .