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[Han Shot First]

Rather than having Sten 2.0 as a companion, I think it would be more interesting to have a Kossith companion that is an apostate who wastes no oppurtunity to mock Qun and its followers. Given how many Tal-Vashoth mercenaries are roaming Thedas, there is an oppurtunity to have a Kossith companion who is just as bad@ss as Sten, except without the religious devotion.

Also if the rumors about Sten returning as Arishok are true, bringing a Tal-Vashoth along to meet him could be both awesome and hilarious.

Anyone else think a  Tal-Vashoth companion would be more interesting this time around than a Qunari?

[Lithuasil]

Tal-Vashoth is defininitely better companion material, but still provides some issues - the people you come across won't be able to tell he's tal vashoth from his or her nose after all.

[The Night Haunter]

Personally I'd like a Ben-Hassrath, as part of the 'Spirit' of the Qunari rather than the Body (like Sten was) we'd get a better picture of the Qunari in general. Especially since right now the only non-Antam Qunari we've met is Tallis, who is apparently questioning her own place in the Qun, so theres a whole lot that could be done with the other parts of the Qunari without resorting to the, probably, minorty which is the Tal-Vashoth.

Also I've never really liked the Tal-Vashoth, they all seemed so... empty. Like they were lost outside the Qun despite the fact that it was their choice and all they had left was murder and banditry. The one Tal-Vashoth we meet who isnt a bandit seems just as lost. At best he becomes a mercenary who kills for money. The Tal-Vashot seem to shallow and empty to base a companion on at the moment.

[Wulfram]

A Tal-Vashoth makes more sense - really, it requires pretty exceptional circumstances to justify a Qunari following the orders of a Thing

[Giant ambush beetle]

Lithuasil wrote...

Tal-Vashoth is defininitely better companion material, but still provides some issues - the people you come across won't be able to tell he's tal vashoth from his or her nose after all.

I can imagine that those issues could lead to many interesting and/or funny situations. I think thats more of a bonus than an issue. :happy: 

Modifié par The Woldan , 25 septembre 2012 - 11:05 .

[Han Shot First]

The Woldan wrote...

Lithuasil wrote...

Tal-Vashoth is defininitely better companion material, but still provides some issues - the people you come across won't be able to tell he's tal vashoth from his or her nose after all.

I can imagine that those issues could lead to many interesting and/or funny situations. I think thats more of a bonus than an issue. :happy: 

Agreed.

Imagine some random NPC making a comment about the Qun or Qunari while meeting your Kossith companion, and having your Kossith companion either being angered, or (my preference) responding with mockery of the Qun.

Also I've never really liked the Tal-Vashoth, they all seemed so... empty. Like they were lost outside the Qun despite the fact that it was their choice and all they had left was murder and banditry. The one Tal-Vashoth we meet who isnt a bandit seems just as lost. At best he becomes a mercenary who kills for money. The Tal-Vashot seem to shallow and empty to base a companion on at the moment.

That is actually one of the primary reasons why I think a Tal-Vashoth companion would be interesting. The lore on them hasn't been explored much in the previous two games, and generally when you encountered them they were just enemy mooks, rather than deep characters. A Tal Vashoth companion could change that, and offer an interesting and more in depth perspective of this:

"It is not entirely clear what motivates Qunari to reject the Qun, but one of the most likely reasons is the assignment of a very low and unpleasant place in Qunari society. Qunari who have ambition above their station, such as Armaas, or those bound by the Qun, come to resent their place in society, and thus the Qun. Others, such as Maraas, seem to simply tire of a life driven by duty and purpose. By leaving the Qun, people are named Vashoth by other Qunari. Those who come to hate their old society so much that they relish the outcast role the Qunari place upon them, sawing off their horns and terrorizing the Qunari countryside are called Tal-Vashoth or "True Grey".

[Lithuasil]

Han Shot First wrote...

"It is not entirely clear what motivates Qunari to reject the Qun, but one of the most likely reasons is the assignment of a very low and unpleasant place in Qunari society. Qunari who have ambition above their station, such as Armaas, or those bound by the Qun, come to resent their place in society, and thus the Qun. Others, such as Maraas, seem to simply tire of a life driven by duty and purpose. By leaving the Qun, people are named Vashoth by other Qunari. Those who come to hate their old society so much that they relish the outcast role the Qunari place upon them, sawing off their horns and terrorizing the Qunari countryside are called Tal-Vashoth or "True Grey".

There's definitely potential for an interesting character in there - and it'd be nice to have an npc who's vocal about not everything being fluffy bunnys in the Qun

[filetemo]

What about having a kossith companion that was kidnapped at birth and has never had contact with qunari culture? Then he starts watching how the Qun works and he may reject it, or convert to the qun if the rivalry with the inquisitor is high enough

[iSignIn]

How could a Qunari Kossith even be your companion? It's very unlikely for the Qunari to take a side in a war between the Mages and the Chantry/Templars.

[filetemo]

iSignIn wrote...

How could a Qunari Kossith even be your companion? It's very unlikely for the Qunari to take a side in a war between the Mages and the Chantry/Templars.

he may have his own bussiness and is interested in wandering with you.

When has this ever been an issue anyways? How many of your companions had a personal interest of defeating the blight / killing darkspawn in DAO?

Not Zevran, not Shale, not Sten (wants to regain his honor indirectly by killing darkspawn for you AND learn what a blight is), Dog was Dog, Morrigan was ordered by his mom, Anders is forced to become a GW, so is Nathaniel, Justice is a spirit casually in a dead warden body, etc...

[iSignIn]

filetemo wrote...

iSignIn wrote...

How could a Qunari Kossith even be your companion? It's very unlikely for the Qunari to take a side in a war between the Mages and the Chantry/Templars.

he may have his own bussiness and is interested in wandering with you.

You don't understand the Qun or the Qunari at all, do you.

filetemo wrote...

not Sten (wants to regain his honor indirectly by killing darkspawn for you AND learn what a blight is)

 
Which is his purpose as dictated by the Qun. It's not his own business or interest. Nor is he wandering. In fact, if he gets the sense you're wandering (which serves no purpose for the Qun), he openly challenges you.

Modifié par iSignIn, 26 septembre 2012 - 12:01 .

[filetemo]

iSignIn wrote...

filetemo wrote...

iSignIn wrote...

How could a Qunari Kossith even be your companion? It's very unlikely for the Qunari to take a side in a war between the Mages and the Chantry/Templars.

he may have his own bussiness and is interested in wandering with you.

You don't understand the Qun or the Qunari at all, do you.

I'm asking for a Kossith companion who has never contacted the Qun. I'm not even asking for a TalVashoth
EDIT: I see you mean a follower of the Qun, apologies, I misread your post.
Anyways a Qunari on a mission could join an Inquisitor given the circumstances. What if both need to close an Eluvian portal which is unleashing hordes of demons and decimating both Qunari and Thedosian armies?

Modifié par filetemo, 26 septembre 2012 - 12:29 .

[iSignIn]

filetemo wrote...

Anyways a Qunari on a mission could join an Inquisitor given the circumstances. What if both need to close an Eluvian portal which is unleashing hordes of demons and decimating both Qunari and Thedosian armies?

Well, that may make him/her a temporary companion, sure. But for a Qunari to follow around a Bas (even a Basalit-an) on permanent basis, it would require exceptional circumstances (such as with Sten) which I don't see happening in Dragon Age 3.

Simply put, I don't see a directorate from the Qun saying either "Let's help these Bas-Saarebas throw off their leashes!" or "Let's help the Chantry reestablish their hold on Thedas!". AFAIK.

[filetemo]

I've been asking for a Saarebas companion since DA2 was in development. I hope Bioware will accomodate the plot to include one. Or any Qunari for that matter.

Modifié par filetemo, 26 septembre 2012 - 12:40 .

[Quicksilver26]

I'm all for if we get to have it said that not all Kossith are Qunari and not all Qunari are Kossith in the game

[RazorrX]

Quicksilver26 wrote...

I'm all for if we get to have it said that not all Kossith are Qunari and not all Qunari are Kossith in the game

It would be interesting if belief in the Qun actually caused a split in the Kossith, creating two factions.  Not Tal-Vashoth but an actual group who does not believe in the Qun at all and never have.

[Quicksilver26]

RazorrX wrote...

Quicksilver26 wrote...

I'm all for if we get to have it said that not all Kossith are Qunari and not all Qunari are Kossith in the game

It would be interesting if belief in the Qun actually caused a split in the Kossith, creating two factions.  Not Tal-Vashoth but an actual group who does not believe in the Qun at all and never have.

That would be awesome 

[Eveangaline]

I'd love a tal-vashoth companion. We've had plenty of companions that liked the qun, Sten, Fenris. I'd love someone who lived it and left it