RazorrX wrote...
R2s Muse wrote...
Curious. I would argue that this is also what Cullen does in Act 3. He explicitly stands up to Meredith because she's not following what the Order is supposed to be, both with the surrendering mages and when he tries to relieve her of her command. I actually see he and Evangeline being rather similar.
Evangeline was a good templar from the beginning. She felt that mages were people, and that the Templars had a duty to them as well as to the world. The core believe was that Tempars existed to protect mages from themselves as well as to protect Thedas from the danger a mage *COULD* become. But core to this belief was that mages were still basically people first, mages second. This is also mirrored by the Divine btw. This belief is what compells her to do what she does thorought the story.
Cullen views mages as all being a nuclear bomb waiting to go off. Not people anymore, just a dangerous thing (Sarebas) that must be kept locked up at all costs. He viewed the templars as jailers more than anything else and even argued that the hero of ferelden annul the circle entirely. When the Knight Commander of Ferelden ruled that the circle was safe, he protested that you could not trust them, etc. Even in DA2 he voices this over and over. He does not step in and stop the evil acts going on in the Circle in Kirkwall. He does not change his opinion until AFTER Merideth has gone off the deep end and starts killing every mage she sees. He sees mages try to surrender and be cut down, etc. It is only then that he steps up and says "This is wrong."
So no, he is not really the same as Evangeline.
Now maybe they will make him SO different from the previous Cullen that I like him, but as it stands now, I really do not care for him at all.
I certainly don't expect to convince you to care for him, since there are just folks we don't like, and that's cool. But I do take issue with this interpretation of Cullen, as you're convolving his actions at a point where he's traumatized and tortured (i.e. during Broken Circle) with someone who has evolved significantly over the course of two games and arguably ends DA2 as someone who also feels that mages should be protected.
In Act 1, keep in mind, he is still suffering from PTSD (and from those more familiar than I, I am told his case is rather textbook) and this is when he talks about mages being dangerous. He doesn't say they aren't people, but that they can't treated like "you and me." No, he doesn't believe they should be allowed freedom. He thinks they should be kept in the Circle where they can be watched.
By the end of DA2, however, he is the one who says that the Kirkwall Circle isn't beyond redemption. He urges Meredith, when the three mages surrender, to allow them to surrender and that being a templar means it is his duty to watch over them, not kill them out of hand. When he finally stands against Meredith, it is because "this is not what the Order stands for."
Granted it took him until the end to finally think for himself and stand up... I see it as the straw that broke the camel's back, but he does do it. Arguably, it took the same for Evangeline, who had no problem throwing mages into those ratty freaky dungeons under the White Spire until she came around at the end.
So... sounds pretty similar to your defense of Evangeline to me.
Modifié par R2s Muse, 26 septembre 2012 - 03:08 .