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[Ghost]

jakal66 wrote...

hahah i don't know why you're celebrating...you still need to pay for the other 2 you already have...still worth it though. ME 1 owns them all.Not a very good deal if you already own 2 and 3.

IMO ME1 is the worst.

[Fredvdp]

TMA LIVE wrote...

I'm more wondering how Microsoft lost the publishing rights. Backroom deals, or simply an end to a contract?

The details were never made public, but I suspect they only had the publishing rights for their own console. EA published ME1 on PC, so Microsoft never had exclusive publishing rights.

[Fredvdp]

ZombieGambit wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

1. It stop being an exclusive the second it came to pc.

What?

It's published by Microsoft and both Windows and the Xbox 360 are Microsoft products, please tell me how that's not exclusive to Microsoft?

All games that come out for 360 and later PC are considered exclusive, like Fable, Gears of War etc. 

When discussing exclusivity, naming something Microsoft exclusive when it's on both Xbox 360 and PC is quite pointless from two perspectives, being that of the players and Microsoft. Players approach exclusivity from the platform only, not the company, since it's irrelevant for the player that Microsoft owns both Xbox and Windows. Microsoft itself doesn't collect any money from PC games, unless they're released under GFWL or otherwise developed/published by Microsoft, so they don't beenfit from your concept of Microsoft exclusivity. In fact, it's better for Microsoft if as few Xbox titles as possible are released on PC.

From what I can tell, only a small minority considers games like Fable and GeOW exclusives. Just take a look at all the comments here mocking the OP for calling ME1 an exclusive.

Modifié par Fredvdp, 26 septembre 2012 - 09:43 .

[MystEU]

PC or gtfo

@ Above posters: Nobody said Microsoft exclusive. The topic was about Xbox exclusivity. Xbox =/= PC. Whatev, more people get to play it. That is a good thing.

Modifié par MystEU, 26 septembre 2012 - 09:50 .

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Rubios wrote...

Phantom089 wrote...

Why?

Playstation and Nintenfo have their exclusives, Microsost need some more and better. In my opinions Mass Effect will always be better on Xbox. I own Xbox, PS and PC use too Wii.

The AdBox 360 is basically a subscription-based poor's man PC without games at this point, and the 720 will be the same but with a 2000% more Kinect and Justin Bieber in the dashboard.

Meanwhile, WiiU and PS4 will have Zelda, Pokemon, Mario, Platinum Games, Naughty God, Team ICO, Sucker Punch, Guerrilla Games, Santa Monica...

Deal with it.

Xbox 720 is also getting Project Forzaleza(or whatever it's called), which are basically virtual reality glasses.
And don't remind me that Japan doesn't cater to Xbox.(they're lucky I still like their anime) 

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 26 septembre 2012 - 09:57 .

[hawkens982]

Phantom089 wrote...

I can't have my own opinions?

Your entitled to your opinion. However the way you presented your opinion came across as whiny. Hence all the flame towards you.

[Gruntburner]

The xbox gets the best versions of all third party games and some awesome arcade stuff.

[Shepard VI]

Welcome to 2007, PS3. You finally get Microsoft's sloppy seconds. Enjoy.

[Justin2k]

Few possibilities..

1) It was a five year deal which is now up.
2) "Triology" is a loophole which gets them out of it. But then they wouldn't be able to digitally sell ME1 independently like reported.
3) They bought themselves out of it.

Most likely they came to a financial arrangement. Lets face it, MS has won this console war hands down in terms of units sold and money gained. Mass Effect exclusive was a good deal for them, but it's been five years and anyone who was going to get it on 360 probably already has.

Also it comes out on the same day as Halo 4. So it's not like MS haven't got a back up plan lol.

[wac2791]

Phantom089 wrote...

 Why?

Playstation and Nintenfo have their exclusives, Microsost need some more and better. In my opinions Mass Effect will always be better on Xbox. I own Xbox, PS and PC use too Wii.

I just don't see why this is such a big deal to you... We can already play ME2 and ME3...
It was no longer an exclusive when those 2 games were made for PS3 as well. ME1 coming to PS3 was probably only a matter of time and red tape...

[Justin2k]

wac2791 wrote...

Phantom089 wrote...

 Why?

Playstation and Nintenfo have their exclusives, Microsost need some more and better. In my opinions Mass Effect will always be better on Xbox. I own Xbox, PS and PC use too Wii.

I just don't see why this is such a big deal to you... We can already play ME2 and ME3...
It was no longer an exclusive when those 2 games were made for PS3 as well. ME1 coming to PS3 was probably only a matter of time and red tape...

Not really.  ME1 has been owned by Microsoft, not EA.  Without MS consent it could never have happened.  I assume they sold it.  It's not like they need a five year old exclusive any longer.  

Regarding OP, while we don't get great exclusive titles on Xbox, do remember we get a lot of love from the publishers in terms of DLC exclusives (skyrim, fallouts)  Even this triology is being released on 360 months before the PS3 version.

Modifié par Justin2k, 26 septembre 2012 - 10:11 .

[kyles3]

IndoctrinatedSpectre wrote...

Welcome to 2007, PS3. You finally get Microsoft's sloppy seconds. Enjoy.

I certainly will! 

Seriously, I've been dying to play ME1. BioWare made my week with this announcement. 

[OBakaSama]

I think it's great that PS3 owners will get the chance to play ME. Good games should be experienced by as many people as possible. Though I anticipate some being a bit disgruntled having played ME2 and/or ME3.

[Comsky159]

So happy right now

Also have to laugh at the xbox elitists; the hitherto superior race of beings XD. We just want to play the game guys.

Modifié par Comsky159, 26 septembre 2012 - 10:36 .

[brettc893]

Justin2k wrote...

wac2791 wrote...

Phantom089 wrote...

 Why?

Playstation and Nintenfo have their exclusives, Microsost need some more and better. In my opinions Mass Effect will always be better on Xbox. I own Xbox, PS and PC use too Wii.

I just don't see why this is such a big deal to you... We can already play ME2 and ME3...
It was no longer an exclusive when those 2 games were made for PS3 as well. ME1 coming to PS3 was probably only a matter of time and red tape...

Not really.  ME1 has been owned by Microsoft, not EA.  Without MS consent it could never have happened.  I assume they sold it.  It's not like they need a five year old exclusive any longer.  

Regarding OP, while we don't get great exclusive titles on Xbox, do remember we get a lot of love from the publishers in terms of DLC exclusives (skyrim, fallouts)  Even this triology is being released on 360 months before the PS3 version.

That's literally one publisher, and "Timed Exclusivity" Is a stupid Business strategy, considering it Alienates fans or persuades them to wait for a GOTY Edition a lot of the time..

And I could point out that Bethesda isn't nearly the AAA Developer people make them out to be, but that's a whole different can of worms.

[CINCTuchanka]

Can someone honestly explain to me how this would ever negatively affect anyone?

[Comsky159]

jakal66 wrote...

hahah i don't know why you're celebrating...you still need to pay for the other 2 you already have...still worth it though. ME 1 owns them all.Not a very good deal if you already own 2 and 3.

Available on psn as seperate download. S'all good.

[brettc893]

CINCTuchanka wrote...

Can someone honestly explain to me how this would ever negatively affect anyone?

Well CINC, some people treat their choice of game platform, be it Xbox, PS3, Wii, or PC, with the same attitude as Crazy Person would, say... their choice of Religion.

You see, for the most part, no one cares who does what, because they're normal and are able to respect others for different life choices/opinions.

But some, Zealots and Fanboys, are not content with this; They must find a sort of self validation by saying things like, "We're Better Than You Because Of This First Person Shooter/Our Book Is Different." or "You people are ruining the world/Gaming with the path you've chosen!"

All in all, The best you can do is try to ignore it, and to help with that(Because I KNOW it's Hard), always think about it like this;

If someone really needs a sense of superiority over their choice of game system, you should probably let them have it, because chances are, That's a BIG win in their day to day life.

[Aargh12]

coles4971 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Mass Effect was 360 exclusive?

Yup. Apparently the PC copy I have of ME1 isn't actually real.

But it was an exclusive. PC version was released 8 months after Xbox 360 version. Hell, on launch Xbox 360 copy it says "Only on Xbox". After June 2008 it went multiplatform as PC port was released.

[Justin2k]

The console war was over some time ago.

For all the PS3's supposed "technical superiority" we never got to see it because most all games were multi-platform so built for the lowest spec machine. As a result, most things run better on 360. MS had good marketing strategy with pricing and timed exclusives and while I'm not interested in them, Halo and Gears of War have been huge in terms of exclusives. Also they picked up some former Sony exclusives such as Final Fantasy. They made it easier for developers to update Xbox live (look at how slow Sony has been with ME3 updates) and generally beat Sony with an inferior product but better business acumen.

Japan is the only market in which Sony outsold Microsoft and not by all that much.

[brettc893]

Justin2k wrote...

The console war was over some time ago.

For all the PS3's supposed "technical superiority" we never got to see it because most all games were multi-platform so built for the lowest spec machine. As a result, most things run better on 360. MS had good marketing strategy with pricing and timed exclusives and while I'm not interested in them, Halo and Gears of War have been huge in terms of exclusives. Also they picked up some former Sony exclusives such as Final Fantasy. They made it easier for developers to update Xbox live (look at how slow Sony has been with ME3 updates) and generally beat Sony with an inferior product but better business acumen.

Japan is the only market in which Sony outsold Microsoft and not by all that much.

Not sure if fully serious...

[Justin2k]

brettc893 wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

The console war was over some time ago.

For all the PS3's supposed "technical superiority" we never got to see it because most all games were multi-platform so built for the lowest spec machine. As a result, most things run better on 360. MS had good marketing strategy with pricing and timed exclusives and while I'm not interested in them, Halo and Gears of War have been huge in terms of exclusives. Also they picked up some former Sony exclusives such as Final Fantasy. They made it easier for developers to update Xbox live (look at how slow Sony has been with ME3 updates) and generally beat Sony with an inferior product but better business acumen.

Japan is the only market in which Sony outsold Microsoft and not by all that much.

Not sure if fully serious...

Totally.  You're a PS3 fanboy and I can see that, and obviously you want to believe you have the best product.  But go look up sales.  Sony have had their ass kicked all over the world.  Except Japan where they were always going to win.

[Eterna]

Justin2k wrote...

brettc893 wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

The console war was over some time ago.

For all the PS3's supposed "technical superiority" we never got to see it because most all games were multi-platform so built for the lowest spec machine. As a result, most things run better on 360. MS had good marketing strategy with pricing and timed exclusives and while I'm not interested in them, Halo and Gears of War have been huge in terms of exclusives. Also they picked up some former Sony exclusives such as Final Fantasy. They made it easier for developers to update Xbox live (look at how slow Sony has been with ME3 updates) and generally beat Sony with an inferior product but better business acumen.

Japan is the only market in which Sony outsold Microsoft and not by all that much.

Not sure if fully serious...

Totally.  You're a PS3 fanboy and I can see that, and obviously you want to believe you have the best product.  But go look up sales.  Sony have had their ass kicked all over the world.  Except Japan where they were always going to win.

But seriously, you're an idiot. 

[brian t]

I don't get people like you topic creator I mean no offense but does them releasing it on the PS3 take anyway from any fun you had or will have with the game. Think about it from the PS3 point of view we get 2 and 3 but not the first one.

[Justin2k]

Eterna5 wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

brettc893 wrote...

Justin2k wrote...

The console war was over some time ago.

For all the PS3's supposed "technical superiority" we never got to see it because most all games were multi-platform so built for the lowest spec machine. As a result, most things run better on 360. MS had good marketing strategy with pricing and timed exclusives and while I'm not interested in them, Halo and Gears of War have been huge in terms of exclusives. Also they picked up some former Sony exclusives such as Final Fantasy. They made it easier for developers to update Xbox live (look at how slow Sony has been with ME3 updates) and generally beat Sony with an inferior product but better business acumen.

Japan is the only market in which Sony outsold Microsoft and not by all that much.

Not sure if fully serious...

Totally.  You're a PS3 fanboy and I can see that, and obviously you want to believe you have the best product.  But go look up sales.  Sony have had their ass kicked all over the world.  Except Japan where they were always going to win.

-snip-

But seriously, you're an idiot. 

Care to point out where my facts are wrong?

- Most games are multiplatform.
- The XBOX performs as well or better on many multiplatform games
- The XBOX outsold Sony in North America and Europe and made heavy inroads into Japan compared to last gen
- The XBOX is significantly cheaper
- Halo, Mass Effect (eventually came over 5 years after), Star Ocean (came over 1 year after), Minecraft and GoW are bigger exclusive names than Uncharted, Heavy Rain etc
- XBOX has better service from companies such as Bioware (challenges not coming to ps3 etc), Bethesda (DLC not coming to ps3, games buggier and slower patches).  Also a lot of this is Sony's own doing (Bioware saying Sony won't let them update on certain days etc).
- The Wii was outselling the PS3 worldwide but not 360 last time I looked.

Yes PS3 has blue ray. free online play (another revenue where MS is making money Sony isn't) and is technically the better console, although this only really shows in exclusives and you don't have that many blockbuster exclusives on it.  The only game slightly interesting to me is Uncharted, and thats probably only because I haven't played it yet.  The facts speak for themselves, MS clearly won in terms of overall sales and share of the worldwide market.

Modifié par Justin2k, 26 septembre 2012 - 11:39 .