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Duncan: The elephant in the room.

Débuté par Guest_Trista Faux Hawke_* , sept. 26 2012 06:42

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Posté 26 septembre 2012 - 06:42

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I'm surprised I haven't seen a thread for this, yet. In Dragon Age Origins, they suspiciously never show Duncan actually being killed. The screen just goes black, all Soprano-style.

I wonder if he's bound to re-emerge in DA3. There was no other reason to make his death so ambiguous.  

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Posté 26 septembre 2012 - 06:43

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He is ten years dead.

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Posté 26 septembre 2012 - 06:44

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Or is he?

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Posté 26 septembre 2012 - 06:45

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He is.

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Posté 26 septembre 2012 - 06:46

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Hah I'd love more Duncan but I'd be on him being dead. Maybe he is the secret surprise reveal in the new comic that will make you lay an egg?

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Posté 26 septembre 2012 - 06:47

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relhart wrote...

He is.


Proof?

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Posté 26 septembre 2012 - 06:47

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I refer the Honourable Member to the answer David Gaider gave 5 days ago

http://social.biowar...5020/1#14205038

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Xzira
Posté 26 septembre 2012 - 06:48

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There was a thread about this and DG said Ducan dies at Ostagar.

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Posté 26 septembre 2012 - 06:50

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Like David Gaider said:

David Gaider wrote...

Aldaris951 wrote...
Will we find out about Duncan's fate in dragon age 3?


You found out about his fate in DAO.


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Posté 26 septembre 2012 - 06:52

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TobiTobsen wrote...

Like David Gaider said:

David Gaider wrote...

Aldaris951 wrote...
Will we find out about Duncan's fate in dragon age 3?


You found out about his fate in DAO.



pff. That's a vague answer.  Why didn't he just say, "Duncan is dead."

He didn't.

Obviously Gaider isn't going to spoil a thing. Nondisclosure agreements are pretty binding when your job is on the line. 

I have yet to play Dragon Age:Calling, but I've heard that DLC raises some questions. 

Modifié par Trista Faux Hawke, 26 septembre 2012 - 06:54 .

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Posté 26 septembre 2012 - 06:53

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He got decapitated by a darkspawn. They just didn't show it since it's more dramatic that way.

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Posté 26 septembre 2012 - 06:54

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They didn't find his remains, however. Only his weapons.

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Posté 26 septembre 2012 - 06:55

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Duncan lives!

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Posté 26 septembre 2012 - 06:55

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Here, I'll bait David Gaider and we can get a real answer:

Gaider, is Duncan dead (dead and gone, not coming back whatsoever, not even as a darkspawn zombie )- yes or no? 

Modifié par Trista Faux Hawke, 26 septembre 2012 - 06:57 .

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Posté 26 septembre 2012 - 06:56

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lol, Duncan is an elephant in the room? Which room are you in? I don't think we need to see the physical trauma just to know that it occurred.

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Posté 26 septembre 2012 - 06:56

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So what he managed to cut through the entire horde while injured did he?

He's dead..

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Posté 26 septembre 2012 - 06:57

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Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

TobiTobsen wrote...

Like David Gaider said:

David Gaider wrote...

Aldaris951 wrote...
Will we find out about Duncan's fate in dragon age 3?


You found out about his fate in DAO.



pff. That's a vague answer. Obviously Gaider isn't going to spoil a thing. Nondisclosure agreements are pretty binding when your job is on the line. 

I have yet to play Dragon Age:Calling, but I've heard that DLC raises some questions. 



No dout it does, since that isn't even a game. 

Duncan's gone. I'm not sure why people interpret a cliffhanger into his fate despite being given the answers they want repeatedly. Just because we don't see something doesn't mean it didn't happen, and just to play devil's advocate and suggest that he didn't die in the battle, how do you suppose he survived the darkspawn feast, corruption and winter that followed? 

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Posté 26 septembre 2012 - 06:58

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Xzira wrote...

There was a thread about this and DG said Ducan dies at Ostagar.


He has said so many times. This is the earliest one I remember

David Gaider wrote...
Duncan is dead. If he appears again, it would have to be in a story that takes place prior to Origins, if anything.

 

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Posté 26 septembre 2012 - 07:00

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King Cousland wrote...

Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

TobiTobsen wrote...

Like David Gaider said:

David Gaider wrote...

Aldaris951 wrote...
Will we find out about Duncan's fate in dragon age 3?


You found out about his fate in DAO.



pff. That's a vague answer. Obviously Gaider isn't going to spoil a thing. Nondisclosure agreements are pretty binding when your job is on the line. 

I have yet to play Dragon Age:Calling, but I've heard that DLC raises some questions. 



No dout it does, since that isn't even a game. 

Duncan's gone. I'm not sure why people interpret a cliffhanger into his fate despite being given the answers they want repeatedly. Just because we don't see something doesn't mean it didn't happen, and just to play devil's advocate and suggest that he didn't die in the battle, how do you suppose he survived the darkspawn feast, corruption and winter that followed? 


I have written books that convince my readers that a specific character is dead, only for them to show back up later in the text. The key is to twist the reader's perspective, aligning it with the perspective of another character who firmly believes what's dead is dead. Bioware did just this by twisting the perspective of Duncan's supposed final moment. It's a simple, easy trick that most people fall for. 

p.s. My bad. I assumed it was DLC because I ran across some forums where users were discussing it as thought it were playable. I see now that it is a novel. I was misled. Hope that clears up the fact that I'm not stupid, I just don't keep up with the DA novels.

Modifié par Trista Faux Hawke, 26 septembre 2012 - 07:04 .

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Posté 26 septembre 2012 - 07:00

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TobiTobsen wrote...

Like David Gaider said:

David Gaider wrote...

Aldaris951 wrote...
Will we find out about Duncan's fate in dragon age 3?


You found out about his fate in DAO.



Also, didn't Alistair mention that Duncan was going to have his calling soon? Even if he survived Ostagar, I'd guess that he'd either get killed off-screen by darkspawn or end up like Larius.

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Posté 26 septembre 2012 - 07:01

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Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

King Cousland wrote...

Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

TobiTobsen wrote...

Like David Gaider said:

David Gaider wrote...

Aldaris951 wrote...
Will we find out about Duncan's fate in dragon age 3?


You found out about his fate in DAO.



pff. That's a vague answer. Obviously Gaider isn't going to spoil a thing. Nondisclosure agreements are pretty binding when your job is on the line. 

I have yet to play Dragon Age:Calling, but I've heard that DLC raises some questions. 



No dout it does, since that isn't even a game. 

Duncan's gone. I'm not sure why people interpret a cliffhanger into his fate despite being given the answers they want repeatedly. Just because we don't see something doesn't mean it didn't happen, and just to play devil's advocate and suggest that he didn't die in the battle, how do you suppose he survived the darkspawn feast, corruption and winter that followed? 


I have written books that convince my readers that a specific character is dead, only for them to show back up later in the text. The key is to twist the reader's perspective, aligning it with the perspective of another character who firmly believes what's dead is dead. Bioware did just this by twisting the perspective of Duncan's supposed final moment. It's a simple, easy trick that most people fall for. 


*pats*

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Posté 26 septembre 2012 - 07:02

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He's dead but his beard lives on, it is possessed by a fade spirit.

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Posté 26 septembre 2012 - 07:02

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Herr Uhl wrote...

Xzira wrote...

There was a thread about this and DG said Ducan dies at Ostagar.


He has said so many times. This is the earliest one I remember

David Gaider wrote...
Duncan is dead. If he appears again, it would have to be in a story that takes place prior to Origins, if anything.

 


Ah. Well there you go - then I have my proof. 

It would have been interesting to bring him back in DA3. And that would be any more cheesy than most everything else involved in a fantasy story.

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Posté 26 septembre 2012 - 07:03

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Beerfish wrote...

He's dead but his beard lives on, it is possessed by a fade spirit.


That is what the "Origins" alluded to in DAO. It is the beard that has been pulling the strings all along.

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Posté 26 septembre 2012 - 07:03

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Must be a stinky elephant, what with it having been dead for ten years and all.
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