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[Vandicus]

 While Mr. Gaider is in the mood to confirm not-ambiguous character deaths that could theoretically result in ressurection/reappearance, is it intended for the Anders death choice in DA2 to stick?

Its quite clear that we kill him in DA2, but with the explanation for how he came back before(Justice possessing corpse), its possible for him to come back again, assuming that Justice was not forced back to the Fade when Anders was knifed. So could we get a confirmation of whether or not this possibility is being left open?

OP^

This thread is now dedicated to keeping track of which characters that are commonly seen as having ambiguous deaths or having been ressurrected are truly dead or truly alive. Devs feel free to confirm anything on the Pending Investigation section here. 

*List
Duncan confirmed dead.
Anders confirmed dead if killed in DA2.
Zevran returns when killed in DA:O, confirmed to be glitch.
Justice returns to the Fade if Anders is killed in DA2




*Will add more as I see them.

*Pending Investigation
Sten being left in cage in Lothering in DA:O.
Loghain being made a Warden in DA:O.
Alistair when imprisoned by Anora and then executed reappears in DA2
Shale being killed at the Anvil of the Void quest, then reappearing in DA:A
Wynne unambiguously comes back to life but has a novelized death farther along in the story. Unknown whether book canon will include this occurrence in game canon.

Modifié par Vandicus, 27 septembre 2012 - 06:07 .

[Arokel]

The issue when deciding to make his death stick or not is that it has to be decided just how large of a role he could play in the coming war.

His destruction of the Chantry was terrorism pure and simple. A politically motivated attack designed to kill a large amount of innocent people.

He would be hunted as a war criminal by the templars and probably labeled a maleficar even though its not true. The rebel mages may very well hunt him as a war criminal as well.

How large of a role could he have if he is hated by both sides?

[Eternal Phoenix]

Please no. Leave dead people dead.

Unless we get to kill him instantly when he reappears and this time in a more gruesome way.

Anders: "Hey Inquisitor..."
Inquisitor: *Instantly murder knifes Anders several times in the stomach. Twists the murder knife in the stomach of Anders for the final stab*
Anders: *Moans in agony and falls to the floor dead*
Inquisitor: *Stands looking over the dead corpse of Anders as the camera pans slowly up*

If we get such a scene then by all means bring him back so I get to watch it play out.

Imagine...Anders is a recurring character in every Dragon Age game and can be killed in every single one where each of his "deaths" are cannon...

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 26 septembre 2012 - 08:30 .

[lv12medic]

If he keeps coming back I'm going to start calling him "Mr. Grumpy Pincushion"

[Fox In The Box]

Ask and ye shall receive.

David Gaider wrote...

Wulphe wrote...
So.. a sword through the chest compared to a
dagger in the back. If Anders survives this, does that mean if you kill
him in during The Last Straw, he survives that too? Is he just playing
dead? Or is he not immortal?

I'd *really* love a dev post here.

No, he's quite dead. We could have gone to more elaborate lengths to show you... ensuring... that he was dead, but I think it got the point across.

I mean, sure, I guess if we wanted to we could come up with some elaborate explanation as to how he survived anyhow... but that's true with anyone. In this case, particularly since Anders was fully willing to die, I don't think having him live after all that would be very cool.

Modifié par Fox In The Box, 26 septembre 2012 - 08:34 .

[FieryDove]

David has said many times if Anders died in DA2 he stays DEAD. (Justice on the other hand...)

[Vandicus]

Fox In The Box wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Wulphe wrote...
So.. a sword through the chest compared to a
dagger in the back. If Anders survives this, does that mean if you kill
him in during The Last Straw, he survives that too? Is he just playing
dead? Or is he not immortal?

I'd *really* love a dev post here.

No, he's quite dead. We could have gone to more elaborate lengths to show you... ensuring... that he was dead, but I think it got the point across.

I mean, sure, I guess if we wanted to we could come up with some elaborate explanation as to how he survived anyhow... but that's true with anyone. In this case, particularly since Anders was fully willing to die, I don't think having him live after all that would be very cool.

Thanks for the info Fox. I see Duncan brought up all the time but Anders coming back from knifing isn't often mentioned.

[Mary Kirby]

Vandicus wrote...

 While Mr. Gaider is in the mood to confirm not-ambiguous character deaths that could theoretically result in ressurection/reappearance, is it intended for the Anders death choice in DA2 to stick?

Its quite clear that we kill him in DA2, but with the explanation for how he came back before(Justice possessing corpse), its possible for him to come back again, assuming that Justice was not forced back to the Fade when Anders was knifed. So could we get a confirmation of whether or not this possibility is being left open?

If you killed Anders in DA2, he is dead.
If you didn't, he's alive.

[Arokel]

Mary Kirby wrote...

Vandicus wrote...

 While Mr. Gaider is in the mood to confirm not-ambiguous character deaths that could theoretically result in ressurection/reappearance, is it intended for the Anders death choice in DA2 to stick?

Its quite clear that we kill him in DA2, but with the explanation for how he came back before(Justice possessing corpse), its possible for him to come back again, assuming that Justice was not forced back to the Fade when Anders was knifed. So could we get a confirmation of whether or not this possibility is being left open?

If you killed Anders in DA2, he is dead.
If you didn't, he's alive.

You cannot keep Anders down!

Kirkwall was merely a setback!

[Fredward]

Soooooo how long is it gonna take someone to make a thread; Varric: The Dwarf in the Room?

[Arokel]

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

Soooooo how long is it gonna take someone to make a thread; Varric: The Dwarf in the Room?

Varric can't die...

[TEWR]

Mary Kirby wrote...

Vandicus wrote...

 While Mr. Gaider is in the mood to confirm not-ambiguous character deaths that could theoretically result in ressurection/reappearance, is it intended for the Anders death choice in DA2 to stick?

Its quite clear that we kill him in DA2, but with the explanation for how he came back before(Justice possessing corpse), its possible for him to come back again, assuming that Justice was not forced back to the Fade when Anders was knifed. So could we get a confirmation of whether or not this possibility is being left open?

If you killed Anders in DA2, he is dead.
If you didn't, he's alive.

What about Justice/Vengeance? What happens to him if Anders is killed? He was one of my favorite characters, and I don't think he got nearly enough screen time in DAII to do the whole Anders-Justice merger concept justice.

Pun not originally intended, but now I'm keeping it.

[Fredward]

Arokel wrote...

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

Soooooo how long is it gonna take someone to make a thread; Varric: The Dwarf in the Room?

Varric can't die...

True but he is the narrator. Did anything in DA2 even happen? Was it all a dream? Was the Champion really a douche who killed his mother and went on a rampage that destroyed half of Kirkwall and sparked the mage rebellion setting fire to the world? Is Varric merely sugar coating the facts because the horrible cannibal-champion does not eat him? If you killed Anders is he really dead? Or is Varric just giving him a chance to escape and cause more magey mischief? DID ISABELA REALLY NOT WEAR PANTS!?

These are the questions that haunt me. xp

[KENNY4753]

Arokel wrote...
You cannot keep Anders down!

Kirkwall was merely a setback!

 that was awesome.

Part of expects for Justice to "assume direct control" and pull a Harbinger to keep Anders alive

[EricHVela]

Even a definitive, direct, straight answer cannot dash the hopes of some.

Killed Anders in the Second Dragon Age? Dead in DA3:I.
Let him live? Alive in DA3:I.

Will everyone just accept that? No.
Is that anyone else's problem (much less BWE's)? No.

The question was answered.

[thats1evildude]

Loghain is definitely dead. Alistair confirms it.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 26 septembre 2012 - 08:53 .

[Vandicus]

ReggarBlane wrote...

Even a definitive, direct, straight answer cannot dash the hopes of some.

Killed Anders in the Second Dragon Age? Dead in DA3:I.
Let him live? Alive in DA3:I.

Will everyone just accept that? No.
Is that anyone else's problem (much less BWE's)? No.

The question was answered.

Well I assume if someone killed Anders they would want them dead in DA3:I and all following DA games. Anders already had a rez power attached to his character in the form of Justice, so I think its a reasonable question to ask. I didn't know that we'd already gotten dev word on it previously(as many people don't know about Duncan, and will continue not to know unless informed). That's why I've converted the thread to be a simple yes/no to permanent character deaths based on previous dev statements.

[Vandicus]

thats1evildude wrote...

Loghain is definitely dead.

Got a source for Warden Loghain's death confirmed by dev?

*EDIT

I'll add it on the list as soon as I see direct confirmation by a dev(in previous threads or any other form of statement).

Modifié par Vandicus, 26 septembre 2012 - 08:54 .

[Fredward]

I heard that the sibling that was smashed by an Ogre (or the one that was that died in the Deep Roads) is not actually dead but will return as a ghoul and be the main antagonist in DA3.

[Arokel]

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

I heard that the sibling that was smashed by an Ogre (or the one that was that died in the Deep Roads) is not actually dead but will return as a ghoul and be the main antagonist in DA3.

A ghoul would make a very boring antagonist wouldn't it?  Look at Tamlen.

Modifié par Arokel, 26 septembre 2012 - 08:57 .

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Arl Howe is alive too. He just took a nap in DAO.

Modifié par DarkKnightHolmes, 26 septembre 2012 - 09:00 .

[Cultist]

thats1evildude wrote...

Loghain is definitely dead. Alistair confirms it.

And if Alistair is dead?

[thats1evildude]

Cultist wrote..

And if Alistair is dead?

Well, Alistair is the only one to refer to Loghain's current status.

But I do know that if Alistair is king and Loghain was executed in DAO, Alistair confirms that Loghain is pinin' for the fjords.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 26 septembre 2012 - 09:12 .