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[Justin2k]

What is with the bisexuality sigs and all the bisexuality talk?  

Hasn't there been bi-sexuality in all DA games?  In Origins there was the foursome with Alistair, Zevran and the pirate girl..  in DA2, every single character was bi-sexual.

What is this bisexuality thing asking for?  More than one romance?  You want to be able to sleep around with multiple partners?  Isn't that showing it in a bad light?  I'd take that as all bi-sexual people are ****s.

Surely the choice of gay/straight is enough?  You can roleplay being bi-sexual but just in a relationship at the moment. lol

Modifié par Justin2k, 26 septembre 2012 - 11:48 .

[syllogi]

"Dragon Age Three" rhymes with bisexuality.

And I wanted to make a new, animated rainbow, inclusivity themed banner related to DA3. Because.

[Emzamination]

What's wrong with everyone being able to romance who they want?

[Plaintiff]

No, they want all LIs in the next game to be bisexual, so that they can be romanced by player characters of either gender.

I'd be curious to know what train of thought took you from "people support bisexuality in Dragon Age" to "people must want to be ****s in Dragon Age".

Bisexuality and a propensity for casual sex are unrelated, and in both previous games, you could easily roleplay a character who only swings one way, and still have a substantial amount of sex with various partners, thanks to the brothels in both games.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 26 septembre 2012 - 11:53 .

[Battlebloodmage]

If I only have a penny everytime this thread pops up.

Meaning that they should be able to romance who they want, not be able to sleep around. In DAO, if you don't like Morrigan, you can still have Leliana. If you're gay, you only have Zevran, and if you don't like your choice, tough luck. It's not about sleeping around, it's about not being limit in your choice selection.

I agree with you, they should remove everyone being bisexual and give one bisexual and one gay character for each gender. That's what you want, right? Like DAO?

Modifié par Battlebloodmage, 26 septembre 2012 - 11:54 .

[whykikyouwhy]

[quote]Justin2k wrote...

What is with the bisexuality sigs and all the bisexuality talk?  
[/quote] 
Most of the sigs I see pertain to support of the bisexual community and bisexual inclusion.

[quote] 

Hasn't there been bi-sexuality in all DA games?  In Origins there was the foursome with Alistair, Zevran and the pirate girl..  in DA2, every single character was bi-sexual.
[/quote] 
Regarding the bold...that is not a true statement. If you were referring to the love interests - of the 5 available romances, 4 are available to a Hawke of either gender. No single character declares his/herself as bisexual. Regardless of who a person (or character) partners with, their sexual identity/sexuality should not be assumed on that circumstantial evidence alone.[/quote] 

[quote] 
What is this bisexuality thing asking for?  More than one romance?  You want to be able to sleep around with multiple partners?  Isn't that showing it in a bad light?  I'd take that as all bi-sexual people are ****s.
[/quote] 
Regarding the bolded here...by that logic, would a heterosexual person who has had multiple heterosexual partners be considered the slur you used?

[Emzamination]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

If I only have a penny everytime this thread pops up.

Meaning that they should be able to romance who they want, not be able to sleep around. In DAO, if you don't like Morrigan, you can still have Leliana. If you're gay, you only have Zevran, and if you don't like your choice, tough luck. It's not about sleeping around, it's about not being limit in your choice selection.

I agree with you, they should remove everyone being bisexual and give one bisexual and one gay character for each gender. That's what you want, right? Like DAO?

No, origins gave straight wardens 2 options each (Including the bi interest) and gay interest one take it or leave it option.I want it nothing like origins.

[Battlebloodmage]

Emzamination wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

If I only have a penny everytime this thread pops up.

Meaning that they should be able to romance who they want, not be able to sleep around. In DAO, if you don't like Morrigan, you can still have Leliana. If you're gay, you only have Zevran, and if you don't like your choice, tough luck. It's not about sleeping around, it's about not being limit in your choice selection.

I agree with you, they should remove everyone being bisexual and give one bisexual and one gay character for each gender. That's what you want, right? Like DAO?

No, origins gave straight wardens 2 options each (Including the bi interest) and gay interest one take it or leave it option.I want it nothing like origins.

I was being sarcastic. 

That's what my point is. Straight has 2 choices while gay only has 1 choice. I just want to see how he likes it when he only has one choice to choose from. As Gaider said, it's not bisexuality, the sexuality of the LIs depend on the hero. They're not all bisexual.

[Emzamination]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

If I only have a penny everytime this thread pops up.

Meaning that they should be able to romance who they want, not be able to sleep around. In DAO, if you don't like Morrigan, you can still have Leliana. If you're gay, you only have Zevran, and if you don't like your choice, tough luck. It's not about sleeping around, it's about not being limit in your choice selection.

I agree with you, they should remove everyone being bisexual and give one bisexual and one gay character for each gender. That's what you want, right? Like DAO?

No, origins gave straight wardens 2 options each (Including the bi interest) and gay interest one take it or leave it option.I want it nothing like origins.

I was being sarcastic. 

That's what my point is. Straight has 2 choices while gay only has 1 choice. I just want to see how he likes it when he only has one choice to choose from. As Gaider said, it's not bisexuality, the sexuality of the LIs depend on the hero. They're not all bisexual.

lol sorry, didn't catch the sarcasm Carry on

[Battlebloodmage]

franciscoamell wrote...

I'll always support homosexual relationships in games (I'm gay myself), but I don't see any problem at all with the romance archetype goes back to the original version. Because playing in a medieval-like universe makes me feel like homosexual relationships wouldn't be that easy to accept, so when Fenris and male Hawke can start flirt and have sex without any of the two checking if it's ok feels a little unconvinscing. Anders checked with Hawke if it was all right for him to like guys, and Isabela is pretty clear that she bangs everything that moves, so I was perfectly fine with their romances. Fenris is still my favorite LI, even with a male Hawke, but a couple of lines added would make me more satisfied.

I do because it's the take-it-or-leave-it romance. I don't like anything about Zevran, so I have no one to romance, while the other people if they don't like Morrigan, they can still have Leliana. I would be okay with it if I could at least have more than 1 choice to choose from.

[Eumerin]

whykikyouwhy wrote...
No single character declares his/herself as bisexual

Isabella never utters the words, "I'm a bisexual."  But I don't know how you could possibly have missed the fact that she is (even without sleeping with her in DA:O).  She talks openly about sleeping with both genders in DA2, particularly in conversation with Hawke's rather innocent and naive sister (who is both horribly curious about and horribly scandalized by the idea).

[Emzamination]

franciscoamell wrote...

I'll always support homosexual relationships in games (I'm gay myself), but I don't see any problem at all with the romance archetype goes back to the original version. Because playing in a medieval-like universe makes me feel like homosexual relationships wouldn't be that easy to accept, so when Fenris and male Hawke can start flirt and have sex without any of the two checking if it's ok feels a little unconvinscing. Anders checked with Hawke if it was all right for him to like guys, and Isabela is pretty clear that she bangs everything that moves, so I was perfectly fine with their romances. Fenris is still my favorite LI, even with a male Hawke, but a couple of lines added would make me more satisfied.

Yeah. The ignorance of the medieval era has no place in Dragon age.

[Dhiro]

franciscoamell wrote...

I'll always support homosexual relationships in games (I'm gay myself), but I don't see any problem at all with the romance archetype goes back to the original version. Because playing in a medieval-like universe makes me feel like homosexual relationships wouldn't be that easy to accept, so when Fenris and male Hawke can start flirt and have sex without any of the two checking if it's ok feels a little unconvinscing. Anders checked with Hawke if it was all right for him to like guys, and Isabela is pretty clear that she bangs everything that moves, so I was perfectly fine with their romances. Fenris is still my favorite LI, even with a male Hawke, but a couple of lines added would make me more satisfied.

First, heya from Brasil!

Second, while it's true that the Dragon Age-verse is medieval-like, it's also important to remember that the Chantry has no problem at all with same sex relationships. If the ruling power doesn't teach the people to hate homosexuality, there's no reason to check with Fenris if that's okay.

[Dhiro]

franciscoamell wrote...

Dhiro wrote...

franciscoamell wrote...

I'll always support homosexual relationships in games (I'm gay myself), but I don't see any problem at all with the romance archetype goes back to the original version. Because playing in a medieval-like universe makes me feel like homosexual relationships wouldn't be that easy to accept, so when Fenris and male Hawke can start flirt and have sex without any of the two checking if it's ok feels a little unconvinscing. Anders checked with Hawke if it was all right for him to like guys, and Isabela is pretty clear that she bangs everything that moves, so I was perfectly fine with their romances. Fenris is still my favorite LI, even with a male Hawke, but a couple of lines added would make me more satisfied.

First, heya from Brasil!

Second, while it's true that the Dragon Age-verse is medieval-like, it's also important to remember that the Chantry has no problem at all with same sex relationships. If the ruling power doesn't teach the people to hate homosexuality, there's no reason to check with Fenris if that's okay.

Oi, tudo bem?

Yeah, Thedas seems to be way better accepting gay relationships than the world we actually live in, but I think Fenris talking about this (before the flirting and sex) would make it more convinscing. If Thedas was a 100% gay rights, there would be gay marriage, and Bioware said there is no gay marriage there.

I actually thought a bit about that, and I think that it depends of how the people from Thedas see marriage. In our world, marriage is (considered, anyway) an union that shows your affection towards your loved one and your willingness to spend all your life at his/her side. As far as we know, marriage itseld doesn't have this kind of meaning in Thedas and therefore a couple that can't make babies has no use for it.

I mean, even though Sebastian and FemHawke end up marrying (anyone knows if refusing him breaks the romance?), the other couples see no reason for that.

[FaWa]

I really really really hope, if there is only 1 option for Gay Males, that said person is NOT such a stereotype like Zevran was. And I've HAD IT with people complaining about all Bi. They are literally complaining about optional content

[Sylvanpyxie]

I mean, even though Sebastian and FemHawke end up marrying (anyone knows if refusing him breaks the romance?)

Refusing kills the romance, as far as i'm aware.

As far as we know, marriage itseld doesn't have this kind of meaning in Thedas and therefore a couple that can't make babies has no use for it. 

And I agree, marriage in Thedas seems to largely be a business arrangement above all else(funnily enough that's how I personally view marriage full stop). Though in terms of Sebastian's "Chaste Marriage" it was his attempt to develop a deeper relationship without breaking his vows. 

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 27 septembre 2012 - 12:55 .

[FaWa]

franciscoamell wrote...

FaWa wrote...

I really really really hope, if there is only 1 option for Gay Males, that said person is NOT such a stereotype like Zevran was. And I've HAD IT with people complaining about all Bi. They are literally complaining about optional content

Did you finish a playthrough with a Warden that romanced Zevran? He changes after you defeat Taliesin, and he proves he is not stereotypical at all.

I still don't think thats worth a full game of romancing the exact stereotype of a bi male.

[hussey 92]

I think the discussion is whether every character should be bi or not.

[Mr.House]

Justin2k wrote...



What is this bisexuality thing asking for?  More than one romance?  You want to be able to sleep around with multiple partners?  Isn't that showing it in a bad light?  I'd take that as all bi-sexual people are ****s.

:mellow:What the hell is this? Is this a joke? Please tell me this is just you joking around.

Because what you just said is NOT bisexuality.

Modifié par Mr.House, 27 septembre 2012 - 01:04 .

[HulkSmashU]

Bisexuality is a lie,a concept created by the religious faction to help merit the idea of confusion and a path back to god.that will cause such person to be "straight"

people are either straight or gay
anyone claming their bi is a moron and needs to go full gay/straight for a few months and theyll have their answer

[Fiacre]

HulkSmashU wrote...

Bisexuality is a lie,a concept created by the religious faction to help merit the idea of confusion and a path back to god.that will cause such person to be "straight"

people are either straight or gay
anyone claming their bi is a moron and needs to go full gay/straight for a few months and theyll have their answer

Please tell me you're sarcastic, because... no. Just... no.

I'm pretty certain I'm attracted to both sexes. I'm also pretty certain that being pretty certain means I'm not confused. At all. One bit. And I'm also pretty certain that I exist. And am not, in fact, a lie.

Modifié par Fiacre, 27 septembre 2012 - 01:07 .