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Anarya

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I don't want "toned down" makeup, I just want better makeup. More colors would be nice, and good eyeliner options that work independently of the eye shadow slider.

I liked the makeup on all the companions and major NPCs so far, it just got a little weird sometimes on the minor ones. But I loved everything about Morrigan's look, including the makeup, and if I see a barefaced Cassandra in DA3 I will cry.

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ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Aveline didn't sashay. Her stance and walk was the same as the male guards


I... don't think it was...


It was.


It wasn't. Her stance was different, but her walking and running animations were the same as any other human female character.

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brushyourteeth wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

Also, this is a problem:

http://t2.gstatic.co...Kxp8cuEgRmWg6rI

Are you in there, Cassandra? Hello? Your voice sounds muffled. Oh, you're buried under more layers of makeup than the Grand Canyon? That's Bullsh*t!

A grainy screen shot from a three year old image when BioWare was still working on Cassandra's appearance.

Ooookay....

Image IPB
Taken from the DA wiki.



The updated shot is not overdone at all, she looks fine. Looked through some other pictures, so glad they made her hair dark again, looked real bad when white.

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I like "smoky eye" and well done makeup. Enough to enhance or to augment the personality of the character. Green and purple bruises on the cheeks and eyes do not "enhance." But I do not imagine they have time to sit down with every woman's face and paint it "just so."

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See Cassandra's eyeliner and eyeshadow?

I wanted something to that effect on my FemHawke.

Hell, I might actually make a FemInquisitor if I can use eye makeup like that on her.

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Anarya wrote...
I don't want "toned down" makeup, I just want better makeup. More colors would be nice, and good eyeliner options that work independently of the eye shadow slider.
I liked the makeup on all the companions and major NPCs so far, it just got a little weird sometimes on the minor ones. But I loved everything about Morrigan's look, including the makeup, and if I see a barefaced Cassandra in DA3 I will cry.

I don't think the beard and the makeup mix that well, however.

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I doubt Cassandra will be barefaced in DA3.

But if she retains her great makeup, it'd be nice if it was in the character creator for us to use on our girls.

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This topic only gives me more reason not to buy/play Dragon Age 2. Such ****ty clown-faces...

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Also, agree with Anarya on separate sliders for eyeliner and eyeshadow.

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DA2 makeup, making incredibly ugly elves even uglier since year 9:30 Dragon

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Clownish nightmares like Orana shouldn't exist, I agree.

The rest of the characters didn't bother me, but it would be nice to have more people without make-up. My PCs are pretty much alone in that :/

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Morrigan looks fine. Better than fine, actually. Default Marian Hawke also had the makeup thing down pretty well. 

However, I will agree that in general the level of makeup needs to be toned down dramatically. And somebody needs to study anatomy and get a feel for what facial proportions are actually like. There are way too many people with bizarre or grossly misshapen faces when there's no good reason for them to look like that. Bethesda's got the same problem with their games.

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 28 septembre 2012 - 10:10 .


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I don't really use makeup on my heroines, barring eyeliner and eyeshadow so that's why I give a crap about that. haha

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Xewaka wrote...

Anarya wrote...
I don't want "toned down" makeup, I just want better makeup. More colors would be nice, and good eyeliner options that work independently of the eye shadow slider.
I liked the makeup on all the companions and major NPCs so far, it just got a little weird sometimes on the minor ones. But I loved everything about Morrigan's look, including the makeup, and if I see a barefaced Cassandra in DA3 I will cry.

I don't think the beard and the makeup mix that well, however.


Eye makeup goes great with beards! Just look at Jack Sparrow or Khal Drogo. 

Anyway, yes. Eyeliner. I'd love it if we at least had a smokey eye look like Cassandra and Isabela were wearing in DA2, and a winged/cateye liner option. 

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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
No matter Bioware does, someone is always going to think a character would look better if they did something else.

Bioware should just give up and let us change the appearance of characters without mods.
If people don't like a character they can just change it.

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TheBlackBaron wrote...
Bethesda's got the same problem with their games.


I know you've played the Fallouts, but did you ever experience the horror of Oblivion. Walking into a city in the middle of the night, going up to a random guard to ask him directions, he turns around and it zooms in on his hideous, misshapen face...

This was a common occurrence...

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ReconTeam wrote...

TheBlackBaron wrote...
Bethesda's got the same problem with their games.


I know you've played the Fallouts, but did you ever experience the horror of Oblivion. Walking into a city in the middle of the night, going up to a random guard to ask him directions, he turns around and it zooms in on his hideous, misshapen face...

This was a common occurrence...


I've played Oblivion, but never to the level that I got as familiar with the frankenpeople of Cyrodil as I did with the D.C. Wasteland or the Mojave.

This might be fuzzy memories talking, but I remember Morrowind actually doing pretty decent with the faces. Of course, there was considerably less texture detail on the old Xbox than the 360, which actually helps. 

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 28 septembre 2012 - 10:18 .


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Anarya wrote...

Xewaka wrote...

Anarya wrote...
I don't want "toned down" makeup, I just want better makeup. More colors would be nice, and good eyeliner options that work independently of the eye shadow slider.
I liked the makeup on all the companions and major NPCs so far, it just got a little weird sometimes on the minor ones. But I loved everything about Morrigan's look, including the makeup, and if I see a barefaced Cassandra in DA3 I will cry.

I don't think the beard and the makeup mix that well, however.


Eye makeup goes great with beards! Just look at Jack Sparrow or Khal Drogo. 

Anyway, yes. Eyeliner. I'd love it if we at least had a smokey eye look like Cassandra and Isabela were wearing in DA2, and a winged/cateye liner option. 


You'll never catch me with guyliner, be sure of it. hahaha

And that's what its called? The "Smokey Eye" look?

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I've never played Morrowind, but Oblivion was hilariously populated by a lot of misshapen, potato-headed people and it was pretty funny.

@LPPrince yes, there's a lot of variations on the smokey eye, but it's basically what Izzy and Cass have on. Completely lined eye with the edges blended ("smoked") out a bit.

Modifié par Anarya, 28 septembre 2012 - 10:21 .


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ananna21 wrote...

I think that was meant emphasize the craziness of  Tarohne. Mass effect 3 was too subtle with its  makeup so please don't go in that direction.


Lmao have you played as ME3 default Femshep? That woman has some makeup caked on her face.

But yeah, where would they get makeup from in that era? I could understand the Orlesian snobs and high rankers but slaves and random nutjobs? Even Morrigan was kinda weird...She lives in the damn Wilds, where would she get lipstick and eye shadow?

Modifié par KiwiQuiche, 28 septembre 2012 - 10:26 .


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Anarya wrote...
Oblivion was hilariously populated by a lot of misshapen, potato-headed people and it was pretty funny.


My battlemage soon decided that the land must be cleansed with fire. The next time a guard turning around, hideous face illuminated by torchlight, shouting "GREETINGS CITIZEN" I knew what I must do.

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KiwiQuiche wrote...

ananna21 wrote...

I think that was meant emphasize the craziness of  Tarohne. Mass effect 3 was too subtle with its  makeup so please don't go in that direction.


Lmao have you played as ME3 default Femshep? That woman has some makeup caked on her face.

But yeah, where would they get makeup from in that era? I could understand the Orlesian snobs and high rankers but slaves and random nutjobs? Even Morrigan was kinda weird...She lives in the damn Wilds, were would she get lipstick and eye shadow?


I don't see how it's much of a stretch that someone with extensive knowledge of herbs and stuff might also be familiar with vegetable and mineral colorants.

Also, makeup predates the medieval era in our world by thousands of years. Maybe Thedas is similar. 

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Yeah, I wasn't shocked in the slightest about Morrigan using makeup. Of course she lives in the Wilds, she probably knows what plants to mix up and treat with whatever magic or salves to create stuff like that.

Or you know, she could just buy it.

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KiwiQuiche wrote...

But yeah, where would they get makeup from in that era? I could understand the Orlesian snobs and high rankers but slaves and random nutjobs? Even Morrigan was kinda weird...She lives in the damn Wilds, where would she get lipstick and eye shadow?


She was getting a head start on that "all natural organic" craze. 

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Anarya wrote...

@LPPrince yes, there's a lot of variations on the smokey eye, but it's basically what Izzy and Cass have on. Completely lined eye with the edges blended ("smoked") out a bit.


Thank you, because I have no knowledge whatsoever on the intricacies of makeup or its application.

I just know that sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I'm a fan of the minimalist approach. Less is more.